gas shortages
 

Oil is at an all time high... for what the 8th day in a row?
Supplies are tight everywhere. Refineries are running dry.

Yesterday, I went to 2 gas stations in a row that were closed due to no gas in their tanks. I was afraid I was going to run empty myself, before I saw the WalMart fuel center. YAAY! WalMart gas. I only got 5 gallons worth to make sure I'd be good until I could stop at a real gas station. Good thing as their 93 detonates under light boost. (I tuned my car on cheap gas too, just in case I got stuck with bad gas somewhere!)

Prepare to bleed. Anally. :ky:
Perhaps we'll see the $5/gal prices that have been theorized.

i got 5 gas stations on my block. no signs of gas shortage yet here.

I feel for the people up North that must buy heating oil as well. The cost has increasing like 37% since January of 07. Fuel is like 39% higher than it was in January. They are predicting possibly 95.00 per barrell by years end. We are getting bent over from every angle. The triple dry pumper with out KY.:gay: I am so glad I work from home.

i'm waiting till an e-85 station comes closer to me. Right now the closest is 12 miles away and i gotta drive through whole lot of philadelphia to get there. I avoid the city as much as i can. Though when i get one close i'll retuning the miata for e-85.

Any gas shortages are artificial. *LINK*

great, and you'll pay 3 bucks for gas and $7 for a gallon of milk. the E-85 shit is running corn prices up, which is running up the price of beef, milk, anything that eats corn.

All the while bio-diesel is driving the price of soy beans up so I won't even be able to eat my damn tofu while I jack off to anime porn without feeling guilty that i'm robbing willy nelson of much needed fuel for touring. HOLY SHIT

I haven't seen any evidence of gas shortages here, our fuel is still 2.59 for regular 87.

yeah lowest here is like 2.43, must suck where the rest of you live :td:

When i left home, Alaska, it was 3.08.

cosplay > anime

Honestly, every time the price of oil goes up, I just smile and laugh.

It's not difficult. Two years ago I bought $20,000 worth of PSPFX, a USGI Global Resources no-load mutual fund. Since then it's up 41%. Their holdings are primarily oil and gas exploration, recovery, and refining. You don't have to be rich to do this- the minimum investment for most such funds is betweek $1k and $5k.

At this rate, I'll gladly pay $10 a gallon for gasoline.

No shortage of gas up in Canada.

oh, did we turn off the pipeline to the U.S. by mistake again :)

I work for the oil industry... I ain't complaining.

you mean oil? I don't believe canada has many refineries, which would mean you=fucked.

E-85 costs damn near as much if not more as high priced gas around here, and it burns inefficient as shit in the "FlexFuel" GMCs.

There are lots of refinaries around here, nothing compared to the US. However our local demand accross all of Canada is likely less than California :) So we're still good.

sure it is :hsugh:

know your role and make the maple syrup, mmmk?

Beer. We like Beer.

thanks for the Mut Fund tip Mr. Perez. I got into COP (conoco phil) during the "crash" last month. up over 15% as of yesterday. COP is one of the top 10 holdings in your fund. w00t.

You know why Americans pay $3+ a gallon for gasoline? So Arabs can go skiing in the desert.

http://www.skidubai.com/

Yep e85 =bullshit biodeisel from waste oils=good though the same benefits as normal deisel, and better emissions and economy. Trying to comercialize it and drive up the prices of other shit=bad :cry:

and it smells like french fries.

an episode of dirty jobs (discovery channel freak) shows how a guy uses modified old cooking oil in an unmodified diesel getting 40mpg, said it smells like fajitas

it's modified, you have to heat the oil and have a way to start/shutdown on diesel, so 2 tanks and a switch.

e-85 is around 105 octane, i don't care about feul mileage.

no good, we already have an obesity problem, imagine if everyone drove around and smelled FF all day long...not good for us, great for mickey D's :gay: we shhould buy their stock if that was to happen :td:

classic, lol

now on the serious note, lol, think about it, the inflation has nothing to do with shortages, if there was a shortage it would have to be underground, and then we'd be paying $50 a gallon cause there just is no more oil...this shortage BS is just that...BS, if you were a business man (BUSH), and your primary field was oil (BUSH), and you had a great plan to increase your profit margin (BUSH), and once you start it goes really well cause of lack of attention from domestic market (US), those suckers believe everything you say and turn around and forget it (no harm done), so you continue while you are still presiedent (BUSH), so when next president comes to power (HE/SHE rofl) is really screwed trying fo fix shit and we forgot everything that happened before them (BUSH) and blame the new president (HIM for sure) for everything, and thats how its been done all along
not sure word for word but "the one with the money gets the power, the one with power gets the pussy" tada

Diesels were originally designed to run on peanut oil from what I understand. Volkswagen diesels can still do so with no ill effect.

At my work we ran bio-diesel (what you are referring to) for a few years and it worked great, very little, if any diesel stink crept into the stations from the truck bays. However this year we discovered a problem with it. We constantly keep a full tank of fuel in the trucks for reason of potential extended operations. If bio-diesel is allowed to sit like our trucks do sometimes, it stratifies... all the heavy shit settles down and any hydrocarbons float up (naturally). So back to the drawing board on that one. They are testing a synthetic jet fuel that has been used so far with no ill effect on the test aircraft though, that might be an answer for us.

Vehicles can run bio-diesel unmodified, just don't let them sit for extended periods and make sure you run that tank down. It's just a problem for low sulfur fuels in newer diesels... but I suspect that's just some bullshit. People are brewing it all over the place at home and running it no problem.

I'm tlaking about running COOKING OIL and not BIODIESEL

In the town I live in (just next to Vancouver) we have 3 refineries, including Chevron that makes 94 Octane. :)

aaaaaaaaaand it's still nothing compared to the output here in the states.






christ why haven't I blocked all .ca IP's yet?

I have no idea ...

this might have a little to do with it
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f9bae8ba-6...0779fd2ac.html

And I'm sure this doesn't help either
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/statica...icle57749.html

UAE will own the stock exchange when people lose interest in fabricating the oil price.

who made you christ?

if it does not help and if its useless why are you cotaminating our vlaued forum...:gay:
but you are right, they will own us soon, maybe as soon as we pull out our troops who are currently controling the pipelies there...(BUSH$$$) :td:


the one with the black gold makes the rules

I'm with you Phil. I'd be interested in what you'd need to change out in terms of fueling lines/tank/etc... to convert to E85 for the 105 octane benefit. IIRC markp was thinking about doing this a while back too.

Did you read the paragraph above that response? Peanut oil (also used as cooking oil) can easily be used as fuel with very little or no alteration, it's just really cost prohibitive.

Fuel lines, injectors, and FPR. The stock FPR has a rubber diaphram in it I think... which is not very E100 friendly. The stock fuel lines need to be swapped with viton. The injectors will need to be about 20% larger to handle the same amount of power at the same duty cycle. E100 get's considerably worse fuel economy as it's an oxygenated fuel and requires more fuel to maintain the same A/F ratio.

You can use a stock filter but you would need to change it during the conversion and probably change it again after 20-30K miles. E100 has a cleaning affect similar to biodiesel. Any gunk in your tank or pump will end up in the fuel filter and will glog it up fairly quick.

well i did some research and a lot people are saying that pretty much all modern fuel injection vehicles already have suitable components where not much would need to be changed other than whatever is necessary to run the correct fuel ratios. I saw a video where they tested 2 identical suvs that weren't intended to run e-85. One ran regular gas, the other e-85. after a certain amount of miles. they disassembled both and found that things like the fuel pump had less wear, the valves had less buildup on them. i'll see if i can find the video. My thinking is with my megasquirt and my 620cc injectors i'd have enough fuel for around 275-300whp.

video http://youtube.com/watch?v=HuOs1yap8mU

Because when it is slow you still have us Cunucks to pick on with our weak ass dollar :)

Which of the presidential runners has addressed the problems with energy/fuel?

Obama '08!
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Your weak dollar has gotten a whole lot better over the last few years. I remember when it was 70%. Now it's almost par.

You don't need so many refineries because you only have 10% of our population. By the way, is the Prius a big hit up there with the ultra liberal frenchies?

dude canada is the next middle east what with their diamonds and oil sands!

lol, ice road truckers ftmfw

Fuck the fed lowering rates and trying to forestall a market correction. Dammit the prices need to stabilize and drop back into something resembling normalcy so i can buy shit. fuckking F&I motherfuckers :(

Try living in So. Cal.

Here in Carlsbad an newish 3/2 house on maybe a 6000sf lot will set you back a minimum of $800,000. And that's nowhere near the beach.

Things like this have fuck-all to do with the federal reserve, it was the speculative investors who drove it into the stratosphere during the '00-'04 timeframe.

Our money is starting to be called a 'Perto Dollar'

isn't what I was talking about, nor do I give a fuck about peanut oil

That price is not bad for a house in So.Cal.

Fuck,a condo in Vancouver starts off at $450+

Same house in Lancaster will cost you about $320k, and you're 20 minutes from Willow Springs and 30 minutes from some of the finest driving in Southern California.

my house was 120k (4 bed, 3 bath, 2 car garage, 1/2 acre) but the prices of oil fluctuate so much that everything else never has a stable price

But that is if you want to live in 650 sq Ft

John where else would you want to live in Vancouver if you were gonna buy a apartment or condo? Yaletown!

Just to let you know how retarded house prices have gone in Vancouver.Just recently a house on a corner lot a block and a half away from me just sold for $900,000!

Dude, if you can sell yours for that much you should unload the property, move to tx, buy 8 houses (one for you, and 7 to rent). Single family homes down here rent for about $1500/month with no utilities included. So that's roughly $10,500/mn. And you house is paid for :)

^ My house is not worth that much,it's only worth $600,000.

Yes, but it is 105 Octane... I don't care if it's inefficient as long as it's 105 Octane and 25-50% of the cost of 100 unleaded. I'm in for burning 28% more fuel for the price of 93 premium unleaded after adjusting for the extra fuel consumption.

I lived in Quartz Hill and sold my 4/2 place over 5 years ago for $220. Great driving, but the desert sucked ass. Great street racing scene up there though. I lived 12 miles from Willow and down 60th street I could easily hit 120+, didn't take 20 mins to get there!

Mark

PS - Anyone want to buy my 3/2 house in San Antonio, it's on an acre and only is going for $110k