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Old 04-11-2008, 01:33 PM
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Default A chain is only as strong as...

...its weakest link.

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So, more of a reason to not go making a tuner out of a crappy car. Bad things happen.
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Good lord. Btw you title and the pic you posted made me think his timing chain broke.*


(dont know if Noens use chains or belts)
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That's not your car is it?
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I've heard of exploding clutches before, but that's the first time I've actually seen it. Hard to tell what's what from the pictures. It looks like the flywheel itself was the weak link, yet in the underneath shots, the ring gear is still attached to the engine. Are they separate pieces on a Neon?
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Today I finally raised the rev limit on the Orange to 8000 (EMS, forged pistons, rods and BC3 cams). I've shifted at 7500-7700 a few times today; no more than 15 max, and only twice at 8000 (to get it on video). I was on the way home tonight, got the itch and stood on it in third gear.

At ~7700, I started pushing the clutch pedal down. About a quarter of the way down, the clutch pedal went limp and slammed to the floor. At the same time, I watched something shoot through the hood, the engine died and a smoke trail followed me until I pulled over to the side of the road. Luckily, the smoke was from the transmission fluid covering the exhaust, not a fire.

I called AAA for a tow, then collected pieces of the DCR stage II clutch from the roadway while waiting. The transmission, clutch, intake manifold, radiator fans, radiator, hood and engine harness are destroyed. My friends saw the whole thing from about 100 feet back. Lots of sparks, parts flying, tranny fluid everywhere. The clutch had about 2000 miles on it.
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i used to have a 94 saab 9-3 and my mechanic said that i "shattered" the clutch. also said he never saw anything like that before. i was proud of myself at that point.
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The clutch on my GTI broke on my way back up to school after spring break a few weeks ago. It wasn't nearly that destructive, but it was a pain in the *** driving the last 100 miles without a working clutch pedal, not to mention the $1450 bill to replace it. I've never even chirped the tires or driven that car hard, damn VW's.
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Originally Posted by SamS
The clutch on my GTI broke (...) not to mention the $1450 bill to replace it.
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Yeah, half of it was labor, the other half was dealer prices on parts. It sucks being 300 miles from home and my garage sometimes, there was no way I was going to drop the trans in the dorm parking lot.
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Originally Posted by SamS
Yeah, half of it was labor, the other half was dealer prices on parts. It sucks being 300 miles from home and my garage sometimes, there was no way I was going to drop the trans in the dorm parking lot.
I swapped an Alfa motor under a tree in a parking lot using a chain hooked over a branch. You *****
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7 hours of labor in a shop with a lift = a whole lot more hours in a 30 degree snow/ice/salt/sand covered parking lot.
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It'd put hair on your chest.
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Originally Posted by Ben
That's not your car is it?
Heh, no. Mine's silver and doesn't have any speed holes.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
Good lord. Btw you title and the pic you posted made me think his timing chain broke.*


(dont know if Noens use chains or belts)
Metaphorical chain

They have a belt.
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Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE
I swapped an Alfa motor under a tree in a parking lot using a chain hooked over a branch. You *****
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Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE
I swapped an Alfa motor under a tree in a parking lot using a chain hooked over a branch. You *****
That's the great thing about old air-cooled V-dubs and Porsches. You can drop the engine anywhere with a floor jack.
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Originally Posted by jsisco
That's the great thing about old air-cooled V-dubs and Porsches. You can drop the engine anywhere with a floor jack.
and a crescent wrench
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Originally Posted by jsisco
That's the great thing about old air-cooled V-dubs and Porsches. You can drop the engine anywhere with a floor jack.
I can vouch for this. Watched a guy do it in the dorm parking lot a couple months ago.

You *****.
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Hell, I did the exact same thing back in college- in the parking garage on NorthSouth drive just past Hume Hall (may it rest in peace) at UF. It attracted the attention of the university police who required that we prove ownership of the vehicle in question, and suggested that the parking garage was not an appropriate location for major automotive repair.

If I recall correctly, you need two jackstands and some lumber to prop the tail end up in the air, a screwdriver to disconnect the clamp on the fuel line and the throttle cable, a piece of bailing wire to tie the wiring harness up to the decklid hinge, one 13mm (or was it 15mm?) open-end wrench to pull the four bolts holding the engine to the transmission, and a floor jack with a piece of 1x6 on the saddle to lower the engine out. Two men, one hour.
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