yes. real men make bacon explosions apparently.

Seems a great example.

We live in cramped space here in NY, especially when you factor in the space for car stuff. We still manage to grow our herbs (or is it erbs), tomartos and berries every year.

Food Self sufficiency will certainly help with the lower 401k balance these days. My in-laws retired age 41....about 10 yrs ago. They are still living off the land and doing well on it....but they drive a Ka.

We have a vegetable garden here, always have. :) But supporting your local farm is very noble. When I was living/working on this farm a couple years back I planted more fucking vegetables than I care to remember. Everything we did was "green". Compost like you couldn't imagine, fresh eggs every day, raising pigs for meat, etc. Shit they even sent me to school to become a beekeeper and start up some hives.

Lots of people are and have been growing their own for ages. The Obamas are in it for the publicity. They have to make up for the main man himself publicly talking shit about the special olympics somehow. :facepalm:

Everyone takes it for how they take it. I still don't see why you Obama crazies are still preaching his name left and right every week.

Would rather see the prez plant a field of barley and hops...

and destroy third world countries.


Subsidizing local farms is hurtful to the developing world.

I could give 2 shits about the developing world in all honesty. I care about my own country 1st!

It may just be a ploy to get more support, but even if it is, who cares? At least they're setting a good example whether it's fake or not. Now if she brings the vegetables they can't eat to a soup kitchen or something like that, it'd be even better.

hahahahaha

Yea....lets help the world. Like AIG, lets send more money to third world countries while we keep going down the drain. :vash:

Go eat your meat turd and STFU.

I could give two shits about if they have a garden, I like fresh veggies. I must agree with sam though it does get us back to our "roots", just like in the 1800's lol

Just like AIG, we are all interconnected. One goes down, so do we all.

If you only knew how important and comprehensive world trade is in our current economy (and how important it is in our current prosperity) you would be less offensive towards my meat turd.

who the fuck cares what president is doing it? if it were GW Bush or McCain, it would still be an amazing example.

this isn't about obama. and it's not about who you think is crazy. and exactly who is preaching his name anywhere in this thread?

take the obama chip off your shoulder and try to look at the idea without looking at who did it. just for a second.

and then look up the "ad hominem fallacy"

lol, you've been riding the obama cock train ever since he was nominated to run. In all seriousness, you praise obama more than anyone I've heard talk about the guy. But that's besides the point. :laugh:

It has nothing to do with obama. Its not him necessarily, but his ideas. I come from a shop with a bunch of guys that have their own construction businesses. Foul mouthed, hard working guys that are pissed off about whats going on around us. I talk with them, read online, and watch FOX news. Everything that I read, see, or hear is not pro obama.

I'm not here to argue on the internet, nor to try and spread the obama word. :rolleyes: It just turns my skin inside out to hear such noise about what a great job this guy is doing when everything I see around me is going to shit. Who gives a fuck about the obamas vegetable garden.....really. Maybe he didn't cause all this, but his certainly not helping anything yet.

vash - I'm loving the siffle and ollie avatar. I used to stay up way past my bedtime as a kid to watch that on mtv.

I bet the most she does in the garden is a photo op pulling some tomatoes off a plant or something. They will pay someone $100k a year to pick the shit for them, another guy $50k to till the ground, another $20k to spread some fertilizer... oh well, not my money... or is it!?

Speaking of fertilizer, WHERE THE FUCK DID IT GO! Neither Lowes or Walmart had SHIT for fertilizer. I found like 3 or 4 bags of 8-8-8, and maybe 2 ripped open bags of 10-10-10 at Lowes, and Walmart had nothing. What the hell did I spend all day tilling my 3 gardens up for if I have no fertilizer to mix in tomorrow. Though there is still a month or so away from planting, but I like my stuff to be ready. Not even sure why I'm doing it, I'm not even going to be here in a month anyway :facepalm:

How long has he been in office? Is 3 months enough time to undo the damage that took years to inflict?

Please, FOX news is hardly news. The reason you don't hear anything pro obama is because you're surrounded by right winged middle america. Everything going to shit? He's barely been in office. Think with your right brain, not the trash bag between your legs.

lol.....trash bag between my legs? lol

Hey....hopefully everything works out. I never said I wanted obama to fail or the world to end. You guys on here are majority "for" obama. Where I'm from....its the other way around. That's all I'm saying....

vash, I dont praise the man, I defend him from the slanderous bullshit that's out there. at least on here.

and keep in mind that you live in your own bubble. surrounded by one mindset, listening to one side of the news. you're bound to develop a bias based on that. I'll concede the stimulus package is a stab in the dark to some degree because of the complex interrelationships of the world's economies, but how else has obama failed you already?

here's something to keep in mind:
obama took office when the nation was fed up with the previous administration. out of bush was born millions of government critics with little or no faith in the office. those critics are still in place and have turned their attentions to the new guy before he even had a chance to sign anything. the masses are loath to give their respect to anyone in government even though it's one of the most powerful in the world. that's fucking irony.

I should point out that bush won a second term even after everyone knew he lied about the weapons of mass destruction and origins of al qaeda to start whatever this war is. how do you think my bubble felt when that went on?

I tell you what. when I go to the opening day baseball game this year and Obama throws out the first pitch, I'll see how many people boo him. Last year Bush threw out the first pitch. (midly nws for language heh)

People planting victory gardens = win
People planting victory gardens to look good = opposite of win.

I don't know which one Mrs. O. has in mind here, but I'm pretty sure paying someone to maintain a garden on the White House lawn is going to cost more than the veggies it produces.

BTW, I have a garden, and I made a Bacon Explosion and a Bacon Cheese Roll for the Super Bowl. I guess you could say I swing both ways ACDC.

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