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UrbanSoot 12-06-2007 03:24 PM

Headlight modifications to become legal?
 
http://www.sema.org/Main/ArticleDeta...ontentID=58714

So it seems like rules are softer now concerning lighting...

elesjuan 12-06-2007 03:29 PM

So does that mean my retarded bright ass molested HID lights are going to be legal soon? :D

UrbanSoot 12-06-2007 03:31 PM

seems like

miataz 12-06-2007 03:47 PM

why are HID illegal in the states? because here there not, some old fucker came out and said turn your lights down because they were to bright and there 10,000k aha we flashed are high beems and we said get back in the car before we kick your ass and he got back in it was like some 70 year old:rofl:

SamS 12-06-2007 03:49 PM

10,000K means they're blue (and perform worse than white lights), it doesn't mean they're really bright. Most retrofitted diy HID setups aren't aimed well and produce a lot of glare, which could anger other drivers.

elesjuan 12-06-2007 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 182528)
10,000K means they're blue (and perform worse than white lights), it doesn't mean they're really bright. Most retrofitted diy HID setups aren't aimed well and produce a lot of glare, which could anger other drivers.

HID lights aren't illegal. My Mazdaspeed6 came with them. The Retrofit kits are supposedly illegal when they're installed in non-projector enclosures without a horizontal cutoff. Which, I don't care about. :D

SamS 12-06-2007 03:59 PM

Correct, OEM HID setups are obviously legal. That's why I commented about 10000K diy retrofitted HID's. OEMs typically use 4000K-5000K lights, the best range for visibilty.

UrbanSoot 12-06-2007 04:05 PM

thats what my z has. works very well.

spike 12-06-2007 04:25 PM

Aftermarket HID lights are not illegal if they are DOT approved.

elesjuan 12-06-2007 04:33 PM

I bought 6000ks for the Miata in the crappy ebay junk 7" "projectors." They put out an unbelievable amount of light yet oddly I rarely get flashed by someone.

Had them for 2 years before a cop finally stopped me about them. Was getting onto a highway behind him and there were no lights around at all. The entire inside of his car was just GLOWING whiteish blue then came the mirror adjust.. lol. I followed him down to the first exit, got off, I moved into the left lane and he got into the right, turned into a parking lot then turned around to follow me. I went through a drive through window and he pulled up next to me in the parking lot... Was trying to order and he was trying to talk to me. Asked if there was something wrong with my lights or something.. Told him the headlight housings were crappy and had some new ones on order, he was like "okay just wanted to check for future reference.. I had to adjust my mirror they were so bright." I'm thinking, "wow, you had to adjust your mirror?! OMG."

I look at it this way... During the middle of the day nobody seems able to see my bright ass red car... So do you think at night even with headlights anyone can see it? They sure can see me now. :)

Might add my Speed6 is the only vehicle I have that has DOT approved HID lighting. All my cars and bike have HID lights installed. The bike being brightest with a 5500k 100 watt D2S HID system from UnityHID... Its from a super high end teardrop police spotlight. :cool:

miataz 12-06-2007 10:35 PM

aha w.e all i know is there bright as fuck w.e blue il get a picture if you want one and i took out the plastic cover underneath the one the just projects the top half now its the whole light so there really blue, get people mad so many times, they have to like cover their mirror.

Bryce 12-06-2007 10:44 PM

Your lights, along with jacked up suvs and trucks that don't re-aim their lights, are what piss me off the most while driving at night.:slap:

miataz 12-06-2007 10:52 PM

aha yup, my buddys the one who has them there in a 4-runner, but he owns automotive warehouse, so he pretty much gets everything for free...so do i sometimes lol:bigtu:

chuckerants 12-07-2007 12:33 AM

I bet you really feel tough threatening to beat up an old man. What a douchebag. :nono:


Originally Posted by miataz (Post 182526)
why are HID illegal in the states? because here there not, some old fucker came out and said turn your lights down because they were to bright and there 10,000k aha we flashed are high beems and we said get back in the car before we kick your ass and he got back in it was like some 70 year old:rofl:


sup gurl 12-07-2007 12:54 AM

Anything higher than 6000K = dumb and useless.

miataz 12-07-2007 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by chuckerants (Post 182741)
I bet you really feel tough threatening to beat up an old man. What a douchebag. :nono:

we were just scaring him so he would go back in his truck, he was tripping out on us, every night now people high beam us its annoying not my fault they cant afford HID's

y8s 12-07-2007 09:15 AM

part of the problem is that there's a loophole concerning wattage.

automobile lighting in the US was limited to 55W for low beams but has no consideration for newer, more efficient technology like HID. for example a 35W Xenon HID setup is probably 3-5X brighter than a typical 55W Halogen.

I dunno if the regulations have been updated (probably) but you can definitely see how a poorly set up HID kit in optics designed for less efficient lamps is going to cause problems.

I'm happy with my VisionPlus +50% halogens for now. for the cost.

viciousclipse 12-07-2007 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by miataz (Post 182788)
we were just scaring him so he would go back in his truck, he was tripping out on us, every night now people high beam us its annoying not my fault they cant afford HID's

You can buy hids on ebay for $100, thats not really expensive.:confused:

SamS 12-07-2007 10:16 AM

How does them getting HID's solve the problem of your RicerBlue(TM) HID's blinding other people?

miataz 12-07-2007 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by viciousclipse (Post 182820)
You can buy hids on ebay for $100, thats not really expensive.:confused:

lmao ya the cheap ones that break in about a month, and then idiots like them come to the warehouse and ask to trade it in...stupid tire kickers. And these have a year warrenty so:bigtu:

viciousclipse 12-07-2007 12:24 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-X...spagenameZWDVW

miataz 12-07-2007 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by viciousclipse (Post 182959)

150 with shipping, meh i would never buy that kind of stuff off of ebay, sometimes there dicks and it takes a couple months to get them back do what you want...

Newbsauce 12-07-2007 01:56 PM

The problem with the aftermarket lights is not necessarily the brightness. A significant factor is that people are too stupid to calibrate (aim) their lights. People with the hondas just add in their "projector" headlight assemblies and the HID kit and they are pointed right at the other drivers face.

elesjuan 12-07-2007 02:01 PM

uh, I've grabbed a couple different HID light setups off ebay.. They're not that bad, even when made in china...

If you want something quality and inexpensive check out Xentec branded from Amazon.com, I think they're like 130$. I've had a set of those for about 2 years without a single problem.

Saml01 12-07-2007 03:12 PM

I was seriously giving some thought to putting HID's on my miata, but 130 for the HID kit and another 130 for the Hella Housings, thats quite a bit of change just for lights. I also dont drive my car enough in the dark to warrant it. I also hear a lot of people saying the regular halogen with the hella ecodes are a lot better then the stockers making HID's overkill.

Anyone got a NA with an HID conversion using factory style round lamps like I outlined?

elesjuan 12-07-2007 04:28 PM

Yep. These housings are total crap. Don't buy them, ever... Even for a standard halogen bulb.

http://www.jugrnot.com/CRW_9205.jpg

http://www.jugrnot.com/CRW_9209.jpg

Spend the money on the Hella 7" H4 housings.


I know, my poor cars. All of them have to sit outside cause I don't have a garage... Just a hole in the side of my house with an overhead door. My crotchrocket has to sit outside even! :mad:

Bryce 12-07-2007 04:41 PM

www.rallylights.com for the hella housings and bulbs. I think mine came out to 90ish shipped.

Lol yes I've seen those housings and they ARE crap like you said.

miataz 12-07-2007 04:42 PM

aha fool i got blue lenses ones, and xenon bulbs or w.e not HID's and stuck 110 watt bulb in ahah throw on the high beams look like HID's :bigtu::bigtu:

elesjuan 12-07-2007 04:45 PM

Tree tops and highway signs from 2 miles away glow when I'm coming. :)

Saml01 12-07-2007 04:48 PM

Bryceness can you post some night shots of your car with the lights. id like to see what they look like.

Bryce 12-07-2007 05:00 PM

http://www.miata.net/garage/lighting_options.html
That's not my car, but those are the headlights. They are all the lighting you'll ever need.


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