How the hell do you make a computer run this slow?
 

Once again my mother in law has screwed up her computer (this will be three times in the past 3-4 years). The last time I just bought her a laptop and retired her old desktop. I just got back from her house and her laptop (about a year old) runs so slow that it takes about 5-10 minutes to load MS Word or IE. I don't get it. I installed spybot and AVG when I first bought it for her. Both programs fail to find any problems. The drive is not fragmented and I don't see anything suspicious in regedit under "Run or Run Once". I'm going to wipe the drive and start from scratch but I would really like to figure out what she is doing. I can remember her last computer was slow as hell like this and also (just like this one) had strange audio problems (i.e. the windows startup sound has a very funky stuttering effect). I would bet that WinXP (on a restart) took about 5 minutes before the desktop was visible and then several more minutes before I was able to click on anything. As far as I know, she really only uses it for email and some light web surfing. I could understand how MY computer would get slow (I install and uninstall 100+ programs a year on it) but she barely uses the thing. Any ideas on what to look for? Again, I am going to reformat it (really just to annoy her <G>) but I am curious as to what she is doing to it. I will probably run Bazooka or something similar to search for other programs installed or running in the background before wiping everything. There is just no way that my 6 year old laptop should be running faster than her 1 year old laptop.

could be a failing hard drive. any drive errors reported under event viewer?

I don't have the computer in front of me (left it with her and will have it in a day or two for the reformat) but I would say that after fixing her stuff two other times the problem is user related.

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if it's not software, it's hardware. if the machine is over 3 years old, definitely swap out the hard drive. they're so cheap. pick up one of those fancy USB-to-any kind of hard drive adapters. bitchin tool.

Yeah, I did hijack and bazooka on her last computer (forgot about hijack, thanks for reminding me!). Neither one found anything. This laptop is only 1 year old. I'll probably pull the drive, use my bitchin tool to make a ghost of it, and then drop it back in for the redo. I should find out pretty quickly if it is a hardware issue. My money is on it being screwed up by her yet again. I've never had a computer do this. What does the rest of the world do to their computers (have friends who report problems like this as well).

bloatware?

Backup and reformat.

Defragg anyways, and then report back on how long it took :laugh:

My current computer does something similar (desktop), I need to wait 3-4 after seeing the desktop (which from pressing the power button takes about 1.5 min) which is when the whole thing goes black for a second and once its back everything works great. If I try to do anything before it turns black it doesn't do much, at least with the internet.

Anyways, just make sure once it's working again, she's shutting it down every day, along with defragging the hd and keeping up with windows updates and virus scans.

buy her a mac.

I have not done it to her computer but she said it only took a few minutes to defrag (I think she does it every day).

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Porn. LOL

Man my girl kills computers too. Music, pictures, and who knows.

i'm just going to keep a restore disk around.
Good Luck!

I'm using here at work a 3.00Ghz P4 with 2GB of ram and I want to shoot myself. I asked for a new computer for the 2010 fiscal year and my boss laughed at me.

Dear god, why? I think you just answered the question about her drive being toast.

^this.

Also Bullguard.com you can use it free for 60 or 90 days, I never remember which. It is IMHO -the best- virus scanner available.

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Have you looked at the running processes?

I don't know...my super-reliable iMac has been fucking slow as molasses since installing Panther. My wife officially hates it now.

Panther? A 6 year old operating system, that might be an issue. :)

10.6 seems to run fine on my MacBook Pro, really not a lot of difference from 10.5.x

As to the original problem. You must dig a little deeper to find the issue, as it is most certainly a software problem. Failing HDs don't normally appear to get slower, it isn't like they are wearing out and just getting sluggish. If it is having real issues you'd know about it. Does event view show any errors?

Chances are she clicked on an email and executed some bit of code that has now hijacked the computer. Look at the amount of network activity, if it is lit up like a christmas tree the machine could be a zombie. Or it could have any number of things running on it now that aren't detectable by AV or some squiddy shareware scanner. Most scanners only use a small fraction of their signature databases to scan realtime, if the code is able to sneak past the AV and has elevated privileges ... well you be fucked.

All the AV and patching won't do any good if the user executes code that has "bad stuff" in it. A (stateful) firewall won't help if the bit of code uses a call back mechanism. Does she run under an administrator account? How secure was the password?

In cases like this I like think of the immortal words of Lt. Ripley:

"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. "

Format that hard drive and call it a day. Secure the machine properly and don't rely on AV or ad-ware scanners to catch shit.

NM...whatever the newest cat is...snow leopard..that's it.

My uncle had it and installed it.

Smooth function, but got REALLY slow after a month.

aha yes as others have said. that's like driving your car 24 hours a day to prevent tire flatspots.

people and their weird ideas about what makes a computer work better...

well if she defrags and does a manual disk scan on a regular basis maybe you should try a Antivirus you actualy pay for like the offerings from trend micro etc. I have found that they can be alot more thorough and find things other AV programs can miss esp the free ones just dont get norton they suck balls.

It's been my experience that most older people are absolutely terrified of computer "viruses". If they ever see anything that says, "you may have virus", "you're computer may be infected", "download our virus software" they will click on it and download anything they're prompted to download.

A reformat will fix it, it's not really worth the time to even try to figure out and remove all the crap that's in there, IMO.

I DON'T pay for software <G>. Too much free stuff out there. I still haven't gotten her computer to do the work on it but I think I will have it in a day or two (too bad because I have to stay up all night - swapping to night shift this week).

i have 3 macs right now:
mac pro single 2.8ghz quad core xeon w/ 10gb ram
macbook pro (early 2008 version) 2.6ghz w/ 4gb ram and 200gb 7200rpm drive
macbook (new version) with whatever it comes with

never had any problems with any of them except for a failing hard drive on macbook pro which was mostly my fault. replaced on last day of warranty though :)

try clean install. you did an upgrade from big kernel to small kernel and they are very different even though it looks the same.

Nah- get her a Playstation. No worries about viruses, updates, malware, yadda yadda yadda. It's a little hard to type on the tiny keyboard, but it's the best computer you can buy, and will lower your coolant temps and shift your whole compressor map to the right.