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hustler 06-20-2011 02:28 PM

How illegal is this v. asset transfer
 
My dad had a heart attack a couple months ago, here comes the bullshit:
  1. neighbor gives a woman's wedding ring to my father for some reason to get the ring serviced or something which makes no sense to me
  2. father has heart attack
  3. father recovers from heart attack
  4. ring is gone
  5. neighbor files suit, will take Camaro on consignment
  6. father asks son to accept title transfer of the Camaro to his name
  7. Hustler makes a thread about it
This story reaks of bullshit to me and it sounds like a fucking trap.

kotomile 06-20-2011 02:35 PM

I think it ends at one. If she gave it to him, then it was his to lose, right?

hustler 06-20-2011 02:37 PM

check the edit

matthewdesigns 06-20-2011 02:38 PM

Gives as in gift? Or gives as in "here hold this for me" for a while?

Does the neighbor have an appraisal stating the value of the ring?

Does the neighbor have access to your father's house? If so can the neighbor account for every minute while your father was in the hospital?

I don't see any reason to transfer the title to you at this point (provided you are the son in question). If it starts to look like your dad is going to have a judgment against him then yeah, but now seems like time and money spent (albeit probably very little) unnecessarily.

pusha 06-20-2011 02:39 PM

Did the ring fall down into the lava at Mordor?

Seriously though, unless there was some sort of agreement saying otherwise, did your father not own the ring the second it was given to him?

buffon01 06-20-2011 02:40 PM

Are there any specifics as to how this ring is suddenly "gone"?

hustler 06-20-2011 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 739720)
Are there any specifics as to how this ring is suddenly "gone"?

None. 2-months later my father/his wife discovered the ring is gone and the neighbor is taking them to court over it.

buffon01 06-20-2011 02:48 PM

Is there any concrete proof that this ring was handed to your dad? anything written? i.e. and agreement, receipt etc. What I'm trying to get at is... if there's no concrete proof that this ring was "given" to your father nor when and/or how it was lost/destroyed/stolen etc... then is just a word vs. word case. (IMO)

I, as your dad, would claim a sudden lost of memory due to hardship from heart attack (or some bullshit like that) and since there's no CONCRETE proof that I ever had this ring in my possession nor that I lost it, destroyed it, sold it etc; I'd say fuck you neighbor I don't know where your shit is.

hustler 06-20-2011 02:51 PM

I don't necessarily belive my father is in the right here...I would not be surprised if this were a scheme or something on his end and the ring is in a lock-box somewhere.

buffon01 06-20-2011 02:54 PM

Then do NOT fuck with that. If you feel that way do not get involved AT ALL. Let your father resolve this issue.

chicksdigmiatas 06-20-2011 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 739725)
Is there any concrete proof that this ring was handed to your dad? anything written? i.e. and agreement, receipt etc. What I'm trying to get at is... if there's no concrete proof that this ring was "given" to your father nor when and/or how it was lost/destroyed/stolen etc... then is just a word vs. word case. (IMO)

I, as your dad, would claim a sudden lost of memory due to hardship from heart attack (or some bullshit like that) and since there's no CONCRETE proof that I ever had this ring in my possession nor that I lost it, destroyed it, sold it etc; I'd say fuck you neighbor I don't know where your shit is.


I was going to write something along these lines until I accidentally refreshed it. Unless they have documentation, or at the very least credible witnesses, they are hosed. I hate to suggest that your parents should lie, but they are shitty for giving the ring to your dad, and holding him responsible for it. Why in the hell did they give it to him anyways? Sounds like the neighbors are retards. All your dad has to say is that there was no ring.

buffon01 06-20-2011 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 739728)
I don't necessarily belive my father is in the right here...I would not be surprised if this were a scheme or something on his end and the ring is in a lock-box somewhere.


After this ^^^ I would walk the fuck away from it. I would not want to get dragged into a civil suit that could probably have legal/criminal repercussions.

hustler 06-20-2011 03:09 PM

I'm really stuck on the retardation here. Who gives away a ring for sizing/appraisal/whatever, then keeps it in his pocket at a pool-hall all night?

This will probably be the last time I speak to my father, but oh well.

buffon01 06-20-2011 03:11 PM

Dude not worth it, sucks really because is family. However, if it's your belief that something else is going on here do not fuck with it.

hustler 06-20-2011 03:28 PM

When my mother told me, at 27-years of age, that this man is not my father...well, I've never felt so good.

Faeflora 06-20-2011 03:29 PM



Dude just give Tial a call. It's obvious that they are the cause of and solution to all your life's problems.

buffon01 06-20-2011 03:44 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Picture of Hustler's 3 year old birthday party

Attachment 188068

chicksdigmiatas 06-20-2011 03:47 PM

Option 3. Take camaro and haul ass.

Braineack 06-20-2011 03:47 PM

Bearnie Maddolf gave away a lot of assests to his family...

buffon01 06-20-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 739768)
Option 3. Take camaro and haul ass.

Now that! is bold.

hustler 06-20-2011 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 739765)
Picture of Hustler's 3 year old birthday party

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...re-adopted.jpg

27th, actually. lol

trakhoar 06-20-2011 05:13 PM

what year camero?

elesjuan 06-20-2011 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 739768)
Option 3. Take camaro and haul ass.

:idea:

matthewdesigns 06-20-2011 06:13 PM

Well then, in light of this:

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 739728)
I don't necessarily belive my father is in the right here...I would not be surprised if this were a scheme or something on his end and the ring is in a lock-box somewhere.

this seems like the only thing to do:

Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 739730)
Then do NOT fuck with that. If you feel that way do not get involved AT ALL. Let your father resolve this issue.

especially if there's no love lost between you and him.

gearhead_318 06-20-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 739748)
When my mother told me, at 27-years of age, that this man is not my father...well, I've never felt so good.

So if he isn't your real dad, and from what I've read between the lines he isn't the greatest guy, why get involved?

Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 739768)
Option 3. Take camaro and haul ass.

+1. How bout some details on the camaro? Worth keeping?
Get title, keep car forever, get custom license plate reading 'KARMA'. Win.

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 739769)
Bearnie Maddolf gave away a lot of assests to his family...

But he also had a shit load of lawyers to defend him and create reasonable doubt n' such.

hustler 06-20-2011 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 739887)
So if he isn't your real dad, and from what I've read between the lines he isn't the greatest guy, why get involved?

I don't really want to get into this, but let's just say I thought he was my Dad for 27-years, he was a shit when I was growing up, I don't really fuck with it but all those feelings of "my dad is a waste of life" are admonished from my psyche.

Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 739887)
+1. How bout some details on the camaro? Worth keeping?

'69 RSSS, 705 big block, 3-stage squeeze, Wolf fuel injection, lenco 5-speed, Strange mid section, MW rear end, it runs 9's.

Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 739887)
But he also had a shit load of lawyers to defend him and create reasonable doubt n' such.

I don't fuck with the law.

fooger03 06-20-2011 08:12 PM

If there is no proof that your mother's husband was given the ring with expectation that it would be given back (a service receipt / etc.) then there is no case. Judge Judy would fry that bitch for even claiming that.

Take ownership of the Camaro, consider it partial amends for the way he treated you when you were growing up, sell it to someone for a huge sum of cash, then claim that the sale was made with both parties "in good faith", deny knowledge of ever hearing about a ring/lawsuit, and WIN.

A sale made "in-good-faith" is irreversible by law. - Besides, your 'dad' gave you the car so you could sell it so you could afford the screened in patio that you've always wanted to build.

pusha 06-20-2011 08:13 PM

Take maro

Freaky Roadster 06-20-2011 08:26 PM

One thing really puzzles me, is your "father" a jeweller or goldsmith???
If not, why the fuck did the neighbour give him the ring ????????????????

From what I hear about insurance claims, when a 9ct lightweight wedding band goes missing, it's clearly in the eyes of the owners a 22ct heavyweight band with lots of diamonds set into it.:jerkit:

Stinks of a con, take the car and burn rubber :winner:


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