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Old 06-22-2015, 06:37 PM
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Not sure if fast...only 15psi more to go.

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Old 06-22-2015, 06:55 PM
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You're running MS on a MS3? whoa, that's really cool
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Because it's probably the fastest, stock street car I can afford.

I'm not a 5%, I couldn't afford a GT-R unless I won the lottery, but since I don't buy tickets......

As you guys can tell, I have car ADD. The same friend that took me for the ride pointed out the company in OKC that tuned his GT-R (Speed By Design) also sells a very affordable turbo kit for my car. Basically $4600 installed with their modded new OEM oil pan and oil cooler.

But I won't be making any moves until I see what happens at work over the next few months. Rumors of lay-offs, and even though I'm the only one who does my job in the company, still makes a guy a bit nervous.
Lol that's not what I meant. I mean how does a GTR make you want a vette. But I think you meant just fast cars in general.

What's interesting, (and correct me if I'm wrong) but many of my friends that drove GTR's thought they were boring. The car is blistering fast, but does most of the stuff for you, so aside from just seeing people disappear in the rearview, you don't get that many pucker moments that make you realize how fast you're going like a z06 would.

I haven't driven a fast GTR though
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Originally Posted by 18psi
blowing up wrx diffs? huh? this is news to me newer wrx diffs are open iirc, front one is like 5x stronger than the trans and almost impossible to blow, middle and rear just direct power to least grip wheel and also don't really break much. maybe I'm behind on the times
</p><p>No idea. But <span>@yank</span> works at PRE and the same day I blew my diff they blew their second one in the shop WRX. Maybe we can get him in here for details.</p>
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:01 PM
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Interesting. Every time I blew a gear on a wrx I thought (and hoped) it was a diff. No such luck
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<p>This is their new development car. 2015 I think? I was honestly too worried about getting towed home to think about it more.</p>
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:16 PM
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Having back in the day been a passenger in a 733awhp R32 GT-R on the street on many occasions for acceleration tests in the presence of other cars and street bikes, all I can say is, yes, it is intoxicating. To have two dudes in a full bodied car beat street bikes and hang with liter bikes from 70 to above what is reasonable speed for anyone on a public road is pretty exhilarating. It changes your perspective. I'm really glad we discovered driving on the track before there was an accident on the road.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:19 PM
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^Yup, absolutely bonkers acceleration.

Originally Posted by 18psi
Lol that's not what I meant. I mean how does a GTR make you want a vette. But I think you meant just fast cars in general.

What's interesting, (and correct me if I'm wrong) but many of my friends that drove GTR's thought they were boring. The car is blistering fast, but does most of the stuff for you, so aside from just seeing people disappear in the rearview, you don't get that many pucker moments that make you realize how fast you're going like a z06 would.

I haven't driven a fast GTR though
Yeah, just fast in general.

I haven't gotten to drive one either. This same friend is the one who let me drive his E90 M3, but I wasn't about to ask to drive this one.
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haha sounds nasty but a R32 is quite different from the current beast iirc

It's kinda like my vette vs my miata. The vette has the crazy g forces, but the feeling of power/fast/crazy is more so in the miata, because it's tiny and 80mph feels like 120 in it lol
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
It's kinda like my vette vs my miata. The vette has the crazy g forces, but the feeling of power/fast/crazy is more so in the miata, because it's tiny and 80mph feels like 120 in it lol
^ This.

As someone whose go-fast antics are confined entirely to public roads, and who has never competed in anything more serious than AutoX, I find that the old axiom about "driving a slow car fast" holds a lot of truth. Speaking from experience, I can tell you with certainty that as a daily-driver, one can simply have more fun in a Geo Metro LSi than in a Lamborghini Murciélago.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:39 AM
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Yeah. 2 blown difs in the shop 15 wrx. Tuned on e85 both times. Less than 300hp. Have an older sti diff in it now with no issues
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I dunno. If it's a DD I'd be totally happy with a stock WRX. Love it.
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Originally Posted by yank
Yeah. 2 blown difs in the shop 15 wrx. Tuned on e85 both times. Less than 300hp. Have an older sti diff in it now with no issues
I know very little about the 15's, this is very interesting. Which one(s) go out?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Speaking from experience, I can tell you with certainty that as a daily-driver, one can simply have more fun in a Geo Metro LSi than in a Lamborghini Murciélago.
I don't know if I can agree with this statement. Disclaimer: I've driven neither car. The closest to the Metro was a Geo Storm. The closest I've driven to the Lambo is, well, probably the Geo Storm...

Anyway, I'm thinking I could have a lot more fun on the road with the Murc as a daily driver. Though that has more to do with the type of passengers I'd be picking up, rather than outright speed.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by czubaka
I don't know if I can agree with this statement. Disclaimer: I've driven neither car. The closest to the Metro was a Geo Storm. The closest I've driven to the Lambo is, well, probably the Geo Storm...

Anyway, I'm thinking I could have a lot more fun on the road with the Murc as a daily driver.
I owned one of the 3 cyl Metro convertibles for about a year, and I have driven my cousin's husband's Murc.

The Metro was a fun car in somewhat the same way as a bone-stock NA with old shocks and dry-rotted 14" all-season tires. Not particularly fast, not particularly nimble, and pretty much guaranteed not to impress the sort of people who people that buy cars to impress other people care about. But, like Hustler's Miata, that little crapbox seemed to exude eagerness and earnesty; it loved to be tossed around on the street, and provided the driver with a sense of drama while doing so even at sub-felonious velocities.


The Murc I only drove for a short time, however it failed to impress me beyond the obvious initial shock of "holy ****, I'm driving a Lamborghini."

Yes, it was fast. And yes, it handled well. But it did so in the manner of a machine specifically designed for the task of going fast and handling well by a team of bespectacled German engineers wearing bland ties who punch out of the office at 4:30pm every day and then walk the same route to the same pub to drink the same beer before staggering home to watch the same football match on the same TV while back in the kitchen same half-eaten schnitzel slowly grows as cold and unpalatable as their marriage.

In other words, it did so utterly without emotion.
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Oh, I certainly understand and agree with the driving dynamics review. I was just insinuating I'd be getting a lot of road head in the Murc. That's probably harder (more difficult) to pull off in the 3-cyl Metro.
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Having driven a Geo Storm and a Geo Spectrum GSi hatch (special build ), I can say there is a huge difference in weight and dynamics. Geo Metro is even lighter and probably lots of fun.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
The Metro was a fun car in somewhat the same way as a bone-stock NA with old shocks and dry-rotted 14" all-season tires. Not particularly fast, not particularly nimble, and pretty much guaranteed not to impress the sort of people who people that buy cars to impress other people care about. But, like Hustler's Miata, that little crapbox seemed to exude eagerness and earnesty; it loved to be tossed around on the street, and provided the driver with a sense of drama while doing so even at sub-felonious velocities.
I owned two Metro's so far. Well...one metro that I sold to my brother and one base model swift. The extra cylinder in the swift made the smile that much greater. Then my dad got a Swift GT and...damn. We installed a twin cam into the original metro and my brother had many many good times with that thing. Swift GT got the first ever absurdflow turbo kit.

http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...ift/swift2.jpg


You'd "LOL" just going to get milk & bread.

EDIT: I also owned a base model storm and it was pretty fun for a college beater too.
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In the back of my mind, I've always had a vague desire to pick up another Metro convertible, give the engine a very casual refresh, open up the head just a tad, and then do something thoroughly unreasonable to it with a turbocharger.


Not quite this unreasonable:

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