good2go

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Oh, I've seen her before.

y8s

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False. Organic labeling means adherence to specific USDA requirements.

Natural means bubkis.

mgeoffriau

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Eh, they both have meaning, it's just connotative, not denotative. It just tells you which products to pick up off the shelf for further investigation, not which products to buy.

Joe Perez

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But that's the whole point. The fact that the USDA standards permit inorganic compounds to be labeled as "organic" destroys the credibility of the entire program.

What's next, USDA rules which allow wood pulp to be labeled as "beef"?

Godless Commie

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USDA choice "beef"

bahurd

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They don't?

"The USDA, which regulates meats, has set a limit of 3.5% on the use of cellulose, since fiber in meat products cannot be recognized nutritionally."

15 Food Companies That Serve You 'Wood' - TheStreet

"In the United States, strict oversight and labeling laws ensure all ground beef sold is 100% beef."

Well, a slight play on words but at least the meat in the package is now beef.

http://factsaboutbeef.com/?s=ground+beef

And just to increase your appetite there's always this; 6 Gross Food Ingredients You Didn't Know You Were Eating

Joe Perez

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I kind of have an issue with articles like that, which imply that certain ingredients are dangerous, harmful or otherwise scary simply because they originate from some unexpected source (eg: stuff that comes from beaver anuses or insects) or have an alternate use outside the food industry (eg: in the production of yoga mats.)

Even the most die-hard organic / naturalist / etc., cook uses bomb-making materials and corrosive industrial solvents every day in their wholesome, nutritious cooking. They just use different words for them, like "salt" and "water."

good2go

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Just look at the regulations for bottled water. They can get away with selling bottled water with naturally occurring arsenic levels that would otherwise cause a shut down of any municipal water supply with similar readings.

bahurd

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Yes, the article would imply a gigantic market for the dried perineal glands of beavers and I can't remember ever seeing shells of desert beetles listed on the commodities markets. How would one go about harvesting desert beetles in such a magnitude for it to be profitable??

Joe Perez

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The market consumption of castoreum in its natural form (from beaver ***-glands) is relatively small, as modern food and beverage production lines tend to use synthetic forms as opposed to the genuine article. Economies of scale, and whatnot.

I'm not sure about the desert beetles, but I'd think that insects in general would be relatively easy to farm at an industrial scale.

Erat

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Dihydrogen Monoxide comes to mind.

DHMO is scary ****.

bahurd

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From the link; "Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide."

As if 86% of the population actually had heard of it and knows wtf it is... Sounds like nasty **** anyway.

Joe Perez

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For that matter, DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane) is organic! Specificaly, it is C14H9Cl5.

codrus

So is octanitrocubane! (organic, that is). C8N8O16.

--Ian

Monk

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There wasn't some weird version of the 5 speed that looked like this was there?

sixshooter

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Hemlock is all natural and when grown organically is wonderful in tea.

Monk

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(Sixshooter's claims have not been evaluated by the FDA)

sixshooter

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"I lost 20 lbs. in the first two weeks of the Hollywood Heroin Diet"*


*Results not typical. Consult a physician prior to beginning this or any other illegal opiate regimen. Ask your doctor if Heroin is right for you.

"I loved the Hollywood Heroin Diet. I swear I don't have a gun. No I don't have a gun" C. Cobain, Seattle, WA.

gesso

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That's a 6 speed, as seen on the left in the picture below.

Monk

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Thanks. I just wanted to verify before I bought this "5 speed".