I fucking love NYC
 

Truly a City of the Living.

Meh, I've been there a ton of times for my previous job and I hated it. Then again I'm not one to like large busy cities. I enjoyed my time the most when I was out on long island.

Do you like it better than SD?

As a place to live? Hell no. But as a place to spend a few months on business, yeah- I think I do.

Oddly, I too am a country boy by upbringing, and have always been a suburbanite in my adult life. But Manhattan is just an amazingly interesting place. I've been all over north and central America, and no place else will you find such an amazing diversity of people, architecture, food, civil infrastructure, etc. It's not even just the amazing museums and libraries- where else can you find an underground K-Mart for crying out loud?

L.A., after the big one...

I'm with you Joe.

I was in NYC for a meeting. I needed my dress shoes fixed at 10pm. Where else can you find an all night cobbler? That and 20 different ethnic restaurants on one block.

I overall enjoyed my trip. For sure not somewhere I would want to live, but for a week long vacation, it was good. Next time I go back, I will be sure to not be there for any reason other than enjoying myself. Last time it was for a wedding with people I didn't much like spending time in a cramped hotel room with. Stayed in the W across from the Astoria and spent a lot of my time in their gym, eating and in Time Square also eating. Famous Original Ray's Pizza! Good stuff. The cost of things there blew me away. Literally like twice the cost on everything than down here in Birmingham.

I'm sorry - if you like LA in any way, you have a disease. Los Angeles is nothing more than God's ashtray - I hate even driving through Los Angeles and I want to hang myself if I even have to get off the freeway to get gas. I can't imagine going any place without a GPS unit.

NYC, on the other hand - what a place. So compact, easy to get around. I'd love to spend a few months living there.

"Live in NYC, but leave before it makes you hard; live in LA, but leave before it makes you soft."

Somehow I have never made it to NYC. I will probably go when I get back, but doubt I will like it. Chicago ftw.

I mentioned to someone I was going to Chicago over Christmas break, and they said "Oh, you have family there?" :laugh:

No, I don't care for LA, and I don't recall that I said that I did. I was just making a (poor) joke.

The city of LA is a piece of dookie. However, if you are referring to So.Cal as a whole, you are in denial.

My GF bought me a t-shirt that says "I heart NYC". It's now in my t-shirt rotation.

Never been there though, too many people, to cramped.

Texas FTW. Canada FTMFW. They know how to do motorsports properly up there.

LA traffic FTL. It'll go from a standstill to 40 mph and back to a standstill 10 times per mile, rediculous.

NYC is great though. I had a week long vacation there a few years ago, stayed in Times Square. Between the restaurants, comedy clubs, touristy sites, etc. there was plenty to do, and I didn't feel like I needed to wash like I did walking around Hollywood for a day a few months back (NYC has a reputation for being dirty, but I stayed out of the subway so I didn't see much nastiness). I have a shirt that says NYC :crossed out heart: YOU. It's one of my favorites too.

LOL .... tourists .....

When I worked in "the city" (we consider it the ONLY city that matters :) ), my out-of-town friends used to be impressed that I made so much money. They didn't grasp that I was not wealthy because it COST so much more to live around there. There were times when I paid more just to park my car every month than you probably pay for your apartment rental. My salary plummeted when I returned to the 'burbs, but again, so did my cost of living. All cancels out .....

i cant afford to take a shit in either city so why should i bother hell most of the bums in NYC make like 30k a year, while i gotta work my ass off to top that number in KY that is insane.

If only I could make a teleporter so I could work in NY and teleport myself home in Birmingham when I am done. A large Pizza from a mom and pop pizzaria here is like $12-15, in NYC, its like $30. I don't even pay that much to fill my car up. I remember cigarettes in one of the drug stores were like $6 a pack. Not much more than that for a decent meal around here.

I went to NYC once with an ex-girlfriend. Now that I was there, I've seen it, and I can officially say that, well, I've seen it. And I never have to go there again.

I live 50 min from NYC and I used to love going there every week when I was single but you grow out of it quick and you start hating it after a while. It's too fast pase here and I miss Cali

Honestly, the subways aren't that bad. Ok, so many of the stations are now closing in on (or in excess of) 100 years old, and some of 'em aren't in the most cosmetically appealing shape. But once you learn the ins and outs of the system (mostly knowing how the connections work and how to decipher the nearly inaudible service change announcements on board the trains en route) it really is an amazingly efficient mode of transportation, and cheap as well. I mean, you can get from JFK to anywhere in Manhattan for $7.25 ($5.00 airtrain, $2.25 subway) and likely get there faster than taking a cab if it's during rush hour. From LaGuardia you have to take a bus part of the way (the M60 to N/W at Astoria Blvd is the fastest) but that's even cheaper and not significantly less fast.

Now if only they could do something about the fact that the 1/2/3 platform at Penn Station is a fucking sauna no matter what time of day / year you're there...


As much as the hippies in CA loved to preach the gospel of public transportation, it's just not viable out west. Too damn big. Fun fact: On a per-passenger-mile basis, the Coaster train system that runs up and down SD County is more polluting and less fuel efficient than driving a car. (To say nothing of the cost to the public coffers...)

But here, damn- these folks know how to do public transit. Between PABT, Penn Station and Grand Central, you've got access to a myriad array of transit options, all of them fast, efficient, and reasonably well organized. I love walking through the main concourse of Penn at rush hour, just to look at all the people. It's like an ant farm on crack, and yet it works.


Heh. Downtown Chicago ain't bad, but you're limited as to what you can do without a car, and if you have a car, it's a pain in the ass. Last couple of times I've stayed in the vicinity of Wacker & Michigan, and while you can walk down and see the Giant Bean, check out the concert hall, etc., there's just not a hell of a lot to do outside of an area of a half-dozen blocks or so. At least, not that I ever found.



Pretty sure he was referring to the underground K-Mart thing. And there really is one in midtown. Well, it's 66% underground anyway. The top floor is at street level, while the middle and lower floors are below ground. The bottom floor exits onto the shopping concourse at Penn Station.

"Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft." (Of course, from the perspective of a San Diegan, LA is northern California. :D )


Yeah, the teleporter would be nice but in a way, I kinda think it would destroy the place. Everybody would choose to live in the burbs, and Manhattan would simply turn into a ghost town at 5:00pm. Ever hung around the financial district on a weekend?



What caused you to have a shitty experience?