I hate reving to red.
03-04-2008, 08:05 PM
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Thats because m.neters are tarded. 
(I hope they read this.. Losers.)
All I know is if I had a 1.6 car I'd abuse it even more than I do the 1.8, cause I know of at least 10 motors around that I could pickup for next to nothing...
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03-04-2008, 08:25 PM
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i feel your pain sam, i hardly ever take my car up to redline because it stops making power before then and because the transmission sounds like its gonna go all grenade next to my thigh. It does feel a lot more comfortable taking the 240 to redline even though it stops making power WWAAAYYYY before then, probably because it sounds better doing it?
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03-04-2008, 08:34 PM
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Sam...I'm with ya on this.
It's not that the engine can't take the abuse, to me, it just seems un-natural in the upper rev ranges. It vibrates like a Hello Kitty ***** and the sounds isn't very comforting.
My hundah b16 engine with Jun cams made power to 9k and it was pure music when vtec kicked in at 7100rpms. With the miata motors, it the equivalent to a drunk choir trying to sing in accapella. Not very harmonious.
It's not that the engine can't take the abuse, to me, it just seems un-natural in the upper rev ranges. It vibrates like a Hello Kitty ***** and the sounds isn't very comforting.
My hundah b16 engine with Jun cams made power to 9k and it was pure music when vtec kicked in at 7100rpms. With the miata motors, it the equivalent to a drunk choir trying to sing in accapella. Not very harmonious.
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03-04-2008, 09:56 PM
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Sam...I'm with ya on this.
It's not that the engine can't take the abuse, to me, it just seems un-natural in the upper rev ranges. It vibrates like a Hello Kitty ***** and the sounds isn't very comforting.
My hundah b16 engine with Jun cams made power to 9k and it was pure music when vtec kicked in at 7100rpms. With the miata motors, it the equivalent to a drunk choir trying to sing in accapella. Not very harmonious.
It's not that the engine can't take the abuse, to me, it just seems un-natural in the upper rev ranges. It vibrates like a Hello Kitty ***** and the sounds isn't very comforting.
My hundah b16 engine with Jun cams made power to 9k and it was pure music when vtec kicked in at 7100rpms. With the miata motors, it the equivalent to a drunk choir trying to sing in accapella. Not very harmonious.
Thats just my opinion, though. 
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03-04-2008, 10:31 PM
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Sadly I have to disagree with you here.. I've yet to ever in my life hear a honda engine that wasn't in an NSX, Formula 1 car, or my lawnmower that didn't (to me) sound like complete and total ******* garbage at ANY rpm. Maybe the grunt from the intake is an okay sound, but there seems no possible way to get rid of that humming buzzing drone that comes from the exhaust that makes me want to end myself. Thats just my opinion, though.
Thats just my opinion, though. Keep in mind also that most of the B-series vtec motors were MADE to rev with almost ideal rod/stroke ratios. The miatas motors (designed for turbo applications) doesn't even have a number remotely close to ideal, and quite frankly, it screams and vibrates in pain at substained high revs.
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03-05-2008, 04:07 AM
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Okay you've got me there.. In my defense, thats IS a 2 liter..
lol. Very true. What is their ratio, right about 1:1?
Wow. I eat my words, that actually didn't sound like a donky being assraped!! Guess thats cause you have a real exhaust??
Actually now that I think about it, a local high power turbo guys honda doesn't sound too terrible..
I've heard 1.6s buzz really badly, but I've never noticed a 1.8 buzz??
Hey, thats your opinion indeed.
Keep in mind also that most of the B-series vtec motors were MADE to rev with almost ideal rod/stroke ratios. The miatas motors (designed for turbo applications) doesn't even have a number remotely close to ideal, and quite frankly, it screams and vibrates in pain at substained high revs.
Keep in mind also that most of the B-series vtec motors were MADE to rev with almost ideal rod/stroke ratios. The miatas motors (designed for turbo applications) doesn't even have a number remotely close to ideal, and quite frankly, it screams and vibrates in pain at substained high revs.
Actually now that I think about it, a local high power turbo guys honda doesn't sound too terrible..
I've heard 1.6s buzz really badly, but I've never noticed a 1.8 buzz??
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03-05-2008, 05:33 PM
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I missed a shift in my Talon once. Logger showed 10,5xx RPMs. Didn't do any damage (that I ever knew about). We used to raise our rev limit to 8500 without any internal engine mods.
Anyone ever break a Miata simply from revving too high? What broke first?
EDIT: When I say "missed a shift" I mean I downshifted where I wanted to upshift.
Anyone ever break a Miata simply from revving too high? What broke first?
EDIT: When I say "missed a shift" I mean I downshifted where I wanted to upshift.
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03-05-2008, 08:47 PM
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I think that na Miatas sound scary when you rev 2 red. But turbo Miatas sound so much better. Im pretty sure I do it every day.
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03-05-2008, 08:52 PM
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I missed a shift in my Talon once. Logger showed 10,5xx RPMs. Didn't do any damage (that I ever knew about). We used to raise our rev limit to 8500 without any internal engine mods.
Anyone ever break a Miata simply from revving too high? What broke first?
EDIT: When I say "missed a shift" I mean I downshifted where I wanted to upshift.
Anyone ever break a Miata simply from revving too high? What broke first?
EDIT: When I say "missed a shift" I mean I downshifted where I wanted to upshift.
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