I love this Sr20 Miata!!!!!
 

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/438555098.html
Lets go halves!

I just don't get the SR20DET engine in a Miata. The swap doesn't make any sense to me.

obviously the sr20det has vtaks.

its heavier and further forward therefore it gives the car more downforce, duh duhrer

he couldn't have found a taller shift knob if he had tried... fucking thing reminds me of a 5-speed ranger.

Thats a stock 240 shift knob/shifter

I kinda like it...its not worse than swapping a F20C into a miata.

they make 400hp all day long on stock internals :pitlab:

kind of like a BP-T? so why not just swap the GTX internals and call it a day, im sure its a whole lot simpler than fabing up custom mounts and re running all the electrical...id stick with the BP

Is the sr20 heavier? I though it was an aluminum block. My fe3 is only 80lbs heavier than a bp and it's a lot bigger and all cast iron block. :dunno:

btw- I was jk, this thread is becoming a repeat of another

hey I got a 5 speed ranger

Thats fucking cool.

QFT. Not the most practical but badass indeed.

I think it's pretty damn cool. I mean right now there are very few other motors as widely supported and parts made available for. to me it looks like the block is just as far back as the miata, if not more so since i don't think the coil pack sits behind it. Certainly the SR20 is capable of more power on stock internals than our engines...come up with any problem you want for the block itself, but every block has it's issues. Like ours and cooling?

If you're gonna go through the effort, just throw in an LS1 and call lit a day. A widely supported motor that's better out of the box. And a much cooler swap.

Frank

can anyone actually say why its bad ass?

What exactly is this "widely supported"? What does that mean? Are there engines out there that have no more parts available for them, or that can't be machined, or manufactured, or even have some work on? It looks to me like even the most "shade tree" car guy can make a lot of the stuff need to do just about anything to the outside of the engine. And it's hard NOT to find somebody to take your money when it comes to the internal parts. :dunno:

Is the "capable of more power" from the additional 200cc? I think the "more power" is a relative claim too. For how long?

It's either the donkey dick shifter or the gold valve cover. Hard to say.

Widely supported:

-More stuff on ebay
-More dormroomracing.coms to sell you heavily marked up HKS, Greddy, BLITZ, APEXi, Tanabe, Spoon, Mugen, Hello Kitty
-More interweb experts

And lets not forget the street cred, of course.

:rofl: thanks - it's all so clear now - now I can fully understand "400hp on stock internals"

I think you guys are being silly. Whatever...last i checked far more manufacturers have parts available for the SR20 than for our blocks, regardless of whether they are "JDM" or even usdm.

I personally wouldn't want an LS1 in something i was going to be attempting to daily drive. I think the SR block is interesting because it allows a very moderate tune that is capable and gotten for relatively cheap. Sure if you factor the actual cost of trying to get a SR it doesn't make sense, but if you had a cheap miata shell around and already had the SR motor, i don't see why it wouldn't be worth your time just to see what it could do.

For me looking at it. I see stronger transmission, stronger block, unique, and a lot of potential. When was the last time you saw on a normal basis 450 hp on a Miata motor? or how about 700 hp?

I don't care what Hello Kitty sells for our blocks.

lmfao....
i get why you would want to do it...but to me it just doesnt make sense
if you are going to go to 450-700 hp, i dont care what 4cyl. it is its gonna cost you an arm and a leg...why not save money and stick with what you have...unless you are just so deep into JDM and drifting where the only recognised names are sr20 rb26 jz b16 and b18
so why not drop the b18 in there, there are a shitload of sellers for them all over fleabay etc...

or why not a ka24? more displacement and a hell of a lot cheaper. The only reason to swap another motor into a miata would be for greater displacement right (if you can't work out other problems then you don't need to be swapping anything to begin with)? so an ls1 would be a monster compared to a lil-ole 2.0 liter.

no LSx no care

lol chrome roll cage

:rofl: who wears rubber gloves when working on their car?

one might wonder why there's such a high demand for SR20 parts :D

uhhh.. apparently chics in Lexington, SC still likes dudes with dirty nails? i see plenty of mechanics wearing nitrile gloves (the crap he's wearing rips easily). they even sell nitrile gloves at costco for cheap now.

so to answer your Q: i wear gloves when working on my car(s) so 1) i can boink the gf 2) go to the opera 3) eat sushi with my fingers, right after lowering the jack.

anywho, stop the haterade.

what MX_Eva said +1. much rather have this than the LS1. in fact, in my hands right now is a container from Yokohama with a coupla SR20DE-T's. Invoice value is about JPY50,000 including tranny. SR swap into 10AE would be a fabulous 3rd car.

I wanna see dyno numbers. If it's not more than 300whp, that swap was completely pointless.

I don't see why it has to run over 300, not that I don't think it's easily achieved. If I was going to use a SR miata, i wouldn't want 300 hp for daily driving. Granted I might be inclined to have different tunes so that I could rip it on the dyno or beat it at the track, however i think you would see much greater reliability from the SR that our motors considering they make 200 hp stock.

SR aside, if I was to go with one of the "240 swap" motors. I would choose the Ca18DET. I think it matches the nature of the Miata motor more as a high rev stout block, only issue being it's Iron and apparently has a weaker head gasket than its bretheren.

Let me be more simplistic. People can take their SR20s, JZwhatevers and whatever pointless swaps and bullshit is popular in ------ NOPI/Drift culture and blow it out their asses. Nobody else cares.

i've worn the thick blue ones, but not the medical ones :td:

i still prefer no gloves though, the feeling of hot oil running down your hand is one of a kind

:rly:
because Al Hounos says so

Why the fuck does this subject always get everyone so bent out of shape? You think there is something better to do or swap in???? Do it then. Why is anything outside the box always so hated upon here?

cool

I think that's precisely why some take issue with it: it's really not outside of the box.

You're swapping one turbo-4 for another...from another manufacturer. It's just kinda silly. The Miata aftermarket is pretty healthy.

That being said, if you're doing it just to be a little (but not a lot) different and/or you grew up working on Nissans, then that's great! Who knows, maybe the Miata motor blew up and the guy happened to know of an ultra-cheap SR20 sitting around. In that case...it's a foregone conclusion.

I don't think it's "engine swap hate", I thinks "sr20=NOPI Ricer hate".
If I were doing that much work, I'd go SBC - like a lot of others.

because there's no performance benefit.

yeah fuck that I wouldn't put an LS1 in there either. I'd put in a LS7 and be done with it HEH. For what you get, it effectively weighs nothing and 400hp out of the box does a body good! LS1 has to be the best swap avalible as the LS1 is one of the most heavily support motors in existence, hell the 350 has been around a lot longer then any of these other motors people swap...

the guy bought it for 6500 too, and has been trying to sell it for 10K ever since.
It was built here in Tampa.

i think that car has been discussed on the forum before if i remember correctly, the guy posted picitures too

here it is
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...highlight=sr20

ok after further investigation maybe its not the same car, but it is a sr20 in a miata built in florida :bigtu:

All of the SR20 Miatas I've seen have been built by Z fever. There's a mount kit out for it but I've yet to see someone use it.

Since when the hell were all of you such car elitests that you can't appreciate some's work and their unique flare. Seriously wtf? I would say it qualifies as "out of the box" concidering you all think rear mounted turbo miata's are so different from your own, or that some variation of over radiator piping is different. How all this bullshit has spewed into "ricer ------ drifting shit" is beyond me. Particularly when people who are appropriately building up an SR20 motor would certainly not fit a "ricer" definition. Wooo it's highly popularized and at times even televised HATE IT!!!! As much as you guys fucking hate M.net you are seriously picking up on their "hate anyone doing something different than me" mentality....because your track days and auto-x is SOOO much more important than everyone else's auto experience. Pah-lease, get off your high horse and realize you're like everyone else stop trying to suggest that your motorsport is better than rocket ships or some other bullshit. So gay that many of you guys go to the strip to get times etc, and yet spew "nopi/drift is ricer gay"...hmm funny i thought drag racing was nopi gay?

Its still no reason to cry about it....even though its not true.

How many Miatas on this site over 300 whp? When do the Miata trans start shitting the bed? Just because maybe 10 people have broken 400 whp in a Miata doesn't make the B6 or BP as decent as the SR. Who the fuck cares if someone wants

This is the gayest thing I have ever read. Unique flare? What the fuck? Doing something to your car strictly because it's "unique" is fucking dumb. I'm not necessarily "anti-rice" because some of the functional things we do to our cars here are looked at as rice on m.net. I'm anti idiocy. I don't feel the need to be appreciative of "unique flare" because it's the nice thing to do.

What's wrong with being elitists? You say it like it's a bad word. I'd rather be smart/sensible and mean than totally retared and nice.

Its still no reason to cry about it....even though its not true.

How many Miatas on this site over 300 whp? When do the Miata trans start shitting the bed? Just because maybe 10 people have broken 400 whp in a Miata doesn't make the B6 or BP as decent as the SR.

Also, does it really matter that a few people have done it? How does that not make it outside the box? Last I recalled we didn't have a Miata/Sr20 section for all of them running around here.

I'm still holding out for the radial sr8 swap miata...then snagging his IP, killing him, and shipping the miata to a company where the US doesn't have extradition and a has a track.

but would YOU pay $10,000 for this car? I personally wouldn't buy anything with an aftermarket turbocharger put on due to the fact that i don't know what or how well they did it. Much less an aftermarket motor. And not for $10,000 either. (+1500 for hardtop)

+1

uhm... you drive a Miata. get off the soap box, sit your ass down and stfu?

to others: fwiw, there isn't Nopi ANYTHING on the west coast.

so there is no need to see everyones riced out car at a gathering, because everyones car on the west coast is riced out anyways? if i'm reading you correctly that is

I was just commenting on the guy trying to sell it for 3500 more than he paid for it. Which I think is pretty fugged up since the guy who sold it to him cut him a good deal. For 10K I would expect a 93 wit a V8, or a 2.0 built stroker with a nice turbo kit. Theres a shop here in tampa, XAT Racing, which builds V8 swapped 240's for around that. I have met the guy who participated in that build, and from what I heard, the car just was not worth keeping. Thats why they sold it.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the price is a little unfair..besides the fact that he's selling it for more than he bought it for, but then again would anyone buy a turbo 93 for 7,000? People ask prices that seem pretty rediculous when it comes to modified cars. Paying full price for the car and all the modifications done is stupid, for the money you can do it yourself...but hey that couldn't at all be why this website is even around?? DIY? no surely you jest!

Interesting thing I stumbled upon while looking for a local dealer that would have hondata or similar intake gaskets.

http://216.120.253.113/epictuning/ga...p?image_id=152
http://216.120.253.113/epictuning/ga...p?image_id=154
http://216.120.253.113/epictuning/ga...p?image_id=165