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miatamania 01-08-2007 09:49 PM

I ran her off the side of a mountain!...Kinda
 
Here is from a local forum I am on...

I ran the car off the road...:

And then some nice hillbilly pulled it out...the steering locked..he was going to fast...and it slammed into an embankment...and fucked up the rear...however, I didn't have time to wait on the tow truck and wait because I couldn't afford to get a ticket for this...luckily...the rear bumper and finish panel needed replacing anyway...but I'm worried about the crease put in the left rear quarter panel.

Anyway, here is the story:
Some friends and I were on a drive down Highway 194, I led up the mountain, then let them lead down, I didn't want to push it on the way down because I had that feeling that everything wasn't feeling right, so I took it easy, I was going about 45 MAYBE 50 coming on a turn and I braked lightly...my right rear was the only one that grabbed and it locked up and the car started to skid, I'd estimate it slid about 30 feet then went off the road...hit wooden pole/fence and went down the hill about 8 feet or so....

I'm pissed because I was doing the speed safely...and my caliper locks up under LIGHT braking...I guess it could have been worse...and I got lucky.

The damage: Rear bumper, finish panel, rear quarter panel, drivers taillight, passenger fender if I can fix it...

Pics soon...this sucks...lesson 17 year old cars and safely driving = bad :)...I gotta check the calipers later.

miatamania 01-08-2007 09:51 PM

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^ That crease...sucks. I'm going to have to take that to a body shop and have them take a look at it...see how much of the body is damaged.

miatamania 01-08-2007 10:02 PM

So...I'm, looking for the pictured broken parts...

bripab007 01-08-2007 10:07 PM

I think his problem was lack of suspension travel :)

miatamania 01-08-2007 10:13 PM

lol...oddly enough, I'm really not that upset...I'm pissed because I was driving normal, but I wasn't doing anything dumb. Its just life so I'm not going to sweat it...she runs...I'm alive. Cars can be fixed or replaced.

RicanmiataRacer 01-08-2007 10:18 PM

Im happy you are still alive my friend....things could have been worse, lol Hey I lost control going 110 miles an hour on the freewAY on a rainy night...I almost got hit by 3 cars doin ta 360 through 3 lanes....I about shit my pants..i WAS LUCKY the damage could have been alot worse, my old front bumper was wreaked and the drivers side fender

RicanmiataRacer 01-08-2007 10:19 PM

can you tell the drivers side fender is messed up(my avitar) Me and my bro managed to get most of it streighted out

miatamania 01-08-2007 11:05 PM

I'm hoping I can get most of mine out...this is the one time being primer helps...heh.

mxv 01-08-2007 11:20 PM

you got out pretty good dude. be glad and let the body work begin :(

getsidewaysd1 01-08-2007 11:51 PM

Dont feel too bad. Here is a picture of my miata in my avaitor after I got done with her.

http://myspace-740.vo.llnwd.net/0066...60258740_l.jpg

miatamania 01-09-2007 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by mxv (Post 70543)
you got out pretty good dude. be glad and let the body work begin :(

I got out EXTREMELY lucky...

miatamania 01-09-2007 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by getsidewaysd1 (Post 70549)
Dont feel too bad. Here is a picture of my miata in my avaitor after I got done with her.

http://myspace-740.vo.llnwd.net/0066...60258740_l.jpg

what the hell did you do to her?

miatamania 01-09-2007 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 70523)
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k29/l0ck_0uT/4.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k29/l0ck_0uT/5.jpg

^ That crease...sucks. I'm going to have to take that to a body shop and have them take a look at it...see how much of the body is damaged.

Anybody have any idea how to fix that crease/dent in the rear quarter since its a unibody? I'm going to try to come along the bumper support area as its about an inch in...as is the top of the panel that supports the finish panel...think it'll buff out ;)

Or is that particular issue best left to professionals?

m2cupcar 01-09-2007 12:12 AM

yeah, the worst body work is the fleshy kind

miatamania 01-09-2007 12:15 AM

^ thats what my friend told me right after he said:
"Car can be fixed or replaced...people can't...I'm glad your alright

well...on second though, I was fixed after I broke my back...but thats another story"

(He was a semi-pro moto-x rider who had just received a ride from factory Yamaha when he went down at a nat'l event in Texas at 16...10 screws...2 rods, and 6 fused vertebra later..)

I'm just glad I'm ok...

RusMan 01-09-2007 04:39 AM

Dude, those broken taillights looks exactly like NC lights!!

Snowsurfer03 01-09-2007 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by RusMan (Post 70579)
Dude, those broken taillights looks exactly like NC lights!!

WOAH!!! Thats exactly what I was about to say!

magnamx-5 01-09-2007 08:12 AM

the damaga isnt that bad man a good body hammer and some filler will fix the metal work but you will need a new bumper,/taillights

Braineack 01-09-2007 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by RusMan (Post 70579)
Dude, those broken taillights looks exactly like NC lights!!


my first thought as well.

y8s 01-09-2007 10:30 AM

well, look on the bright side... you already *have* a spare rota c8.

glad you're ok.

rotaryjunky 01-09-2007 11:04 AM

That really isn't bad at all considering. Its strange how it removed all the shinyness out of your paint!?

That cool matt job sure will make the paint matching easy.

miatamania 01-09-2007 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 70605)
well, look on the bright side... you already *have* a spare rota c8.

glad you're ok.

very true...luckily, I think they are fine. as is the frame/control arms etc...


Originally Posted by rotaryjunky (Post 70614)
That really isn't bad at all considering. Its strange how it removed all the shinyness out of your paint!?

That cool matt job sure will make the paint matching easy.

lol...yeah...at least she was primed already...

getsidewaysd1 01-09-2007 01:11 PM

I took mine sideways into a Telephone and a fire hydrant going 60.

miatamania 01-09-2007 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by getsidewaysd1 (Post 70636)
I took mine sideways into a Telephone and a fire hydrant going 60.

ouch...old car or is was that fixed?

RicanmiataRacer 01-09-2007 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by getsidewaysd1 (Post 70636)
I took mine sideways into a Telephone and a fire hydrant going 60.

Slide or die lmfao you took it too literal lmfao:gay: , lmfao jus messin

miatamania 01-09-2007 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by RicanmiataRacer (Post 70653)
Slide or die lmfao you took it too literal lmfao:gay: , lmfao jus messin

lol...little bit.


Anybody know the average price I should pay for a bumper cover...(planetmiata has them for $125...but then you gotta pay shipping) I know the finish panel is going to cost me at LEAST $200 bucks...new taillight about $30... or so.. (assuming thats all I need, should be able to pull the support out the 1" right?)

Atlanta93LE 01-09-2007 10:21 PM

I've seen bumper covers go in the $150-$200 range.

getsidewaysd1 01-09-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 70642)
ouch...old car or is was that fixed?

I went to like 6 or so body shops and they all quoted me around $3000 so I just bought another miata which has been in progress for a year now. I dont think I'll ever finish it. If I could go back, I just would have gottin the blue one fixed but oh well, what can you do.

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miatamania 01-09-2007 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by getsidewaysd1 (Post 70752)
I went to like 6 or so body shops and they all quoted me around $3000 so I just bought another miata which has been in progress for a year now. I dont I'll ever finish it. If I could go back, I just would have gottin the blue on fixed but oh well, what can you do.

http://a423.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...4869dbbf089bd6

ouch...thats a tough call though...thats an insane amount of money.

akaryrye 01-10-2007 01:40 AM

nice azeni's

y8s 01-10-2007 09:38 AM

miatamanias azenis are hand-me-downs from me ;)

miatamania 01-10-2007 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 70794)
miatamanias azenis are hand-me-downs from me ;)

^ he did to many burn outs in that sweet ride of his and wore all the tread off of them so I slid of the mountain...:vash:


Seriously though, these things my my old RS-2 (even though, yes, my rs-2s were on my 14s) feel like shit...I like them...and will be ordering them again...

miatamania 01-13-2007 11:01 PM

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Well...I think this might be the reason the car wrecked...I bottomed it out last week HARD...and I realized that the car wasn't performing the best...so this might be it.

I drove it home from school...put her up on jackstands and found this. I guess it is down until I can swap in a new rear end...I'd like to find a torsen or maybe I'll check out some more info on the TII...but I think thats overkill for my needs...little help sourcing parts guys?

y8s 01-13-2007 11:17 PM

i say god damn

miatamania 01-14-2007 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 71705)
i say god damn

I think my exact words were "Holy...freaking...shit"

Mymiataflys 01-14-2007 01:07 AM

Try this guy. www.panicmotorsports.com He managed a salvaged yard for like 10 years and this year has gone into the miata parts busines for himself. He's located in Columbia, SC. so maybe you could drive there. He races specmiatas and is very easy to work with. name is Steve Bertock. Tell him I sent you.
Michael Holland

Rage_Kage 01-14-2007 01:32 AM

wow! i thought it was pretty bad when i bent my control arm

Snowsurfer03 01-14-2007 01:55 AM

SLAM-SLAM! Goodluck brother!

miatamania 01-14-2007 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by Mymiataflys (Post 71731)
Try this guy. www.panicmotorsports.com He managed a salvaged yard for like 10 years and this year has gone into the miata parts busines for himself. He's located in Columbia, SC. so maybe you could drive there. He races specmiatas and is very easy to work with. name is Steve Bertock. Tell him I sent you.
Michael Holland

That really isn't to far from me, I'll give him a call or send him an email...thank you.

y8s 01-14-2007 10:24 AM

dude, torsen diff 450? no axles so what. get that.

edit: unless it doesn't come with the carrier. then get both.

miatamania 01-14-2007 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 71776)
dude, torsen diff 450? no axles so what. get that.

any year fits...I just have to source axels and driveshaft right and anything out of a 1.8 works together?

Mymiataflys 01-14-2007 06:08 PM

I'm pretty sure he can source you a carrier only. If your axles , etc. are ok. Oh maybe you don't already have a torsen unit.

miatamania 01-14-2007 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Mymiataflys (Post 71843)
I'm pretty sure he can source you a carrier only. If your axles , etc. are ok. Oh maybe you don't already have a torsen unit.

oh, no its the factory 1.6 rear end :(

miatamania 01-15-2007 02:01 AM

Well...I called around and I'm just waiting on a car to come in with a torsen LSD that I want on it...should have one within the month...

IIRC, the factory gearing on a 90-93 is 4.30 and the most common Torsen is a 4.10? This really wont be to noticable would it? just making my gears a little longer and reduce cruising rpms by just a tad?

olderguy 01-15-2007 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 71908)
Well...I called around and I'm just waiting on a car to come in with a torsen LSD that I want on it...should have one within the month...

IIRC, the factory gearing on a 90-93 is 4.30 and the most common Torsen is a 4.10? This really wont be to noticable would it? just making my gears a little longer and reduce cruising rpms by just a tad?

I went from the 4.3 to the 4.1 when I put in the Torsen. It is not very noticeable with the turbo. First gear is a "little" more usable and now my speedometer is very accurate. It was always reading higher than GPS before.

miatamania 01-15-2007 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 71933)
I went from the 4.3 to the 4.1 when I put in the Torsen. It is not very noticeable with the turbo. First gear is a "little" more usable and now my speedometer is very accurate. It was always reading higher than GPS before.

:)

I just got an email quoting me 600-700 for the full swap...seems more than fair?

expensivehobby22 01-15-2007 12:47 PM

I'm going to be sending what's left of my parts car out to the junkyard in a week. I could sell you the whole rear clip with pristine rear fenders. actuall still have the bumper too.

might be a bit of a drive for you, but figured i'd let you know.

Arkmage 01-15-2007 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 71946)
:)

I just got an email quoting me 600-700 for the full swap...seems more than fair?

I think that's a fair price. If I recal you'd need the entire diff assembly (in your case including the carrier), and axles. If it's in good shape I'd pay $600. Fortunately for me I've got a 1.8 so all I'd need is the guts.

FYI: It's quite obvious from your pics that the diff was NOT caused by the accident. If you have full coverage you may want to talk to the insurance company as failures like that are generally looked at as an outstanding circumstance which will keep your rates from rising and allow you to get everything fixed without anything more invested than your deductable.

miatamania 01-15-2007 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 71963)
I think that's a fair price. If I recal you'd need the entire diff assembly (in your case including the carrier), and axles. If it's in good shape I'd pay $600. Fortunately for me I've got a 1.8 so all I'd need is the guts.

FYI: It's quite obvious from your pics that the diff was NOT caused by the accident. If you have full coverage you may want to talk to the insurance company as failures like that are generally looked at as an outstanding circumstance which will keep your rates from rising and allow you to get everything fixed without anything more invested than your deductable.

Really...hmmm, I'll give them a call, can't hurt to see what they say.

And from what I've gather, the entire diff assymbly, axles and the driveshaft.

miatamania 01-15-2007 02:51 PM

Well...I called and he said that it sounded like 'mechanical failure' and unless I wanted to file a claim and actually have someone go out and look at it to see otherwise its not covered...

And nobody at State Farm - Agent, Claims adjuster, or someone in the underwriting office knows what "outstanding circumstances"

Oh well.

Mymiataflys 01-15-2007 06:55 PM

I paid 1200 from Mazmart about 6 years ago. I was new to miatas then and didn't know better. 700 is a very good price for the entire swap.

miatamania 01-15-2007 11:59 PM

dang.

Arkmage 01-16-2007 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 71993)
Well...I called and he said that it sounded like 'mechanical failure' and unless I wanted to file a claim and actually have someone go out and look at it to see otherwise its not covered...

And nobody at State Farm - Agent, Claims adjuster, or someone in the underwriting office knows what "outstanding circumstances"

Oh well.

Mechanical Failure is what I was speaking of... which was the outstanding circumstance which caused the wreck. Not your speed, stupidity, etc... mechanical failure. It could happen to anyone and anytime and like I said most insurance companies know that.

miatamania 01-16-2007 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 72188)
Mechanical Failure is what I was speaking of... which was the outstanding circumstance which caused the wreck. Not your speed, stupidity, etc... mechanical failure. It could happen to anyone and anytime and like I said most insurance companies know that.

:vash:

Makes me wonder what the hell I'm paying for.

Arkmage 01-16-2007 10:46 AM

read up on "no fault" states like MI. then you'll be thankful for your insurance company and the way they work. PLPD is the worst idea EVER.

miatamania 01-16-2007 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 72206)
read up on "no fault" states like MI. then you'll be thankful for your insurance company and the way they work. PLPD is the worst idea EVER.

kk

PLPD?

rotaryjunky 01-18-2007 11:18 AM

PLPD is the minimum coverage in Michigan. You pay money but your not actually covered for anything except if you hit someone and they sue you for personal injury. And if someone hits you, the most you can get for your car is $400 unless you have your own collision coverage. I just keep it on my regular cars/beaters. Its about $200 for six months.

Arkmage 01-18-2007 12:14 PM

it's like paying for no insurance. liability only is one thing... at least if you hit someone their vehicle is covered... with PLPD everyone fixes their own stuff regardless of who ran the stop light/sign. it also make the cost of collision coverage mile high so people can't afford reasonably new vehicles. Result is that everyone is driving an unsafe POS that will cause accidents just because the brakes down work, it stalls constantly, you can't see through the cloud of smoke, and the frame is bent to hell. MI sucks.

miatamania 01-18-2007 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 72686)
it's like paying for no insurance. liability only is one thing... at least if you hit someone their vehicle is covered... with PLPD everyone fixes their own stuff regardless of who ran the stop light/sign. it also make the cost of collision coverage mile high so people can't afford reasonably new vehicles. Result is that everyone is driving an unsafe POS that will cause accidents just because the brakes down work, it stalls constantly, you can't see through the cloud of smoke, and the frame is bent to hell. MI sucks.

dang...thats a retarded idea.

I have a torsen on order with a local guy...said he'll call me on the first car that comes in...so a couple of weeks...hopefully it wont be to long.

On a side note, I wish my W2 would come in already so I can get that tax stuff back :)


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