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BarrigaNA 04-09-2009 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 393761)
Bank robbieries are a little diffrent then taking over a ship. I am not sure if he talks about the Somalian pirates in his book. It just got delivered to my house today so I plan on reading it this weekend.

Now if I was on a boat that was going near Somalia I personally would want to be armed. I am one of the guys that would put up a fight and not give in.

After US citizens have been taken hostage I think the US Navy will start patrolling those waters a bit more.

I wonder if there is a difference.

Because there have been some personal watercraft attacked by pirates and those were some mean fuckers from the reports. Either A) they were trying to kill to get the boat or B) they changed their tactics.

But it does lead to credence that you don't hear about the attackers killing people on board. A few of the ships have been out there for a few months I think too.

l_bader 04-09-2009 05:27 PM

The answer is not to have civilians engage an armed advesary at sea. Attempt to dissuade the pirates with non-lethal means, utilize safe-rooms with "kill-switches" for engines/navigation systems and wait for support to arrive. - This keeps the cargo crews alive.

Then hunt the pirates down when they are on land and execute them.

johndoe 04-09-2009 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by l_bader (Post 393780)
Then hunt the pirates down when they are on land and execute them.

:facepalm:
Please stay in Texas.

Savington 04-10-2009 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 393758)
How about the reason these guys began pirating. They were originally fisherman whose waters have been stripped of their resources, and their livelyhood, by foreign corporations doing essentially, the equivalent of strip mining in the ocean.

Are you justifying ocean piracy?

johndoe 04-10-2009 07:33 AM

No, I'm just trying to paint the whole picture. It doesn't help anything to villanize people and not try to understand how the situation was created. You end up only dealing with the symptoms, and not the root problem, and shit like this keeps happening.

Joe Perez 04-10-2009 08:05 AM

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Project84 04-10-2009 08:23 AM

I think in terms of mass destruction. Yes, I'm grinning.

Hiroshima got the message... don't you think Somalian pirates would too?

Not saying the US should do it, I'd give a thumbs up to whoever stepped up to the plate. Forget root causes and deter future incidents with one-big-bang.

johndoe 04-10-2009 08:30 AM

I could say the same thing about Kentucky...

gompers 04-10-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 393960)
Are you justifying ocean piracy?

Its all a matter of perspective. If you think about it, you could justify any social deviance :jerkit:

Project84 04-10-2009 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 394006)
I could say the same thing about Kentucky...

Too judgemental.

You think you're better than me?! Go swing on your "hero" Rudy's nuts. :jerkit:

johndoe 04-10-2009 08:50 AM

Rudy is a fucktard. Try again...
Can you get more judgmental than thinking dropping a bomb on thousands solves problems???

Project84 04-10-2009 08:58 AM

Oh, maybe I wasn't clear enough.

I didn't mean on thousands, just on one pirate ship.

johndoe 04-10-2009 09:08 AM

Ah, ok, I did misunderstand that, sorry. That's not quite as absurd but It still doesn't stop future pirates from being created.

hustler 04-10-2009 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by l_bader (Post 393780)
The answer is not to have civilians engage an armed advesary at sea. Attempt to dissuade the pirates with non-lethal means, utilize safe-rooms with "kill-switches" for engines/navigation systems and wait for support to arrive. - This keeps the cargo crews alive.

Then hunt the pirates down when they are on land and execute them.

lol, bader is hardcore.

l_bader 04-10-2009 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 393807)
:facepalm:
Please stay in Texas.


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 394033)
lol, bader is hardcore.

Somalia is a non-regulated, governmentless breeding ground for lawlessness. How it got that way is currently irrelevant. The fact something needs to be done is not.

I agree it is a bit draconian, however in an environment in which force and brutality is the only recognized currency of respect, use it.

- L

hustler 04-10-2009 10:06 AM

kids smoking pot shouldn't even go to jail.

Violent crime and stealing my shit...death and hand chopping off. If you steal my shit, I'll kill you. No, seriously...beware of bleeding heart libs with guns. Molan Labe.

johndoe 04-10-2009 10:18 AM

I'm going to steal your ---- virginity. What now!

hustler 04-10-2009 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 394060)
I'm going to steal your ---- virginity. What now!

poz or neg?

Zabac 04-10-2009 11:06 AM

Someone tell these two we are taking about real Pirates, not butt-pirates!

johndoe 04-10-2009 11:39 AM

Poz baby, poz.


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