Efini~FC3S

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"Race"

I see what you did there with the 'quotes'

Leafy

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You know, dont want to catch any flack from those real racer types.

emilio700

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Joe,

Your personal feelings regarding practical life tools really has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Zip. Just as a well maintained but scruffy, bone stock 10 year old Corolla is a great value for a commuter, a C6 Z06 make a great weekend toy.

Since page 1, you keep chiming in with the same opinion. "you guys and your stupid Z06's, what a waste! I would never commute in one. Can't you see that my '04 Corolla is the only type of car that makes any sense? I hate you!"

It is Hustlers thread. During the course of this thread, hist perspective on cycling and the equipment has changed dramatically. He now appreciates and revels in the achievements of top pro racers. He also has a new found passion for the high tech equipment that many of us can actually afford.

It's his thread, not yours.

I'm disappointed that someone as bright as you can't see that forest through the trees. If people enjoying high performance toys on mt.net bothers you, unsubf***gscribe already. You are trolling yourself and don't even see it.

Meanwhile, here is a pic of my $8000 full carbon bicycle that I sometimes commute on

hustler

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Wood:

hustler

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I was thinking about this yesterday when chatting with Andrew. At first, I made this thread because I couldn't see the utility in an expensive bicycle. Then, it became a place for me to belittle elitist Velominati types. Later last year, I began lusting for the expensive carbon stuff because I was on a China-bike and wanted something more respectable, I didn't know the fitment was way off. Now, I'm on a frame that fits, with respectable craftsmanship and engineering, and realize that pro-bikes really are special and that cycling is about a lot of things. The city bikes have a place, but they cannot take me the places I want to go, at the speeds I want, nor do it in style. I still have a beer bike/city bike in my stable, it's just not something I love like my road bike or mountain bike.

I don't understand why Joe disrespects our desire to ride 100+ miles in five hours or ride up 12% grade (**** that). Somehow riding to work is valued more by him that riding up Mt. Diablo.

hustler

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Cannondale Gazette by Peloton:
Cannondale Gazette 2014: Meet The Team - Cannondale Gazette

emilio700

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You are making the same mistake he is. There is no universal "value" to either. Of course utility and being a cost effective alternative to car is more important than pleasure/fitness riding to a very pragmatic individual.

You're both falling into the same trap. "Cycling my way is the only true cycling that should be honored".

Hate is hate.

Joe Perez

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Several people who I respect have now chimed in to accuse me of being hateful, dissing those who appreciate high-end bikes, etc.

This is hurtful.

I honestly don't know what I did to give everyone this impression. I'd hoped that even though we all see cycling through different perspectives, there was room in this thread for those at all ends of the spectrum, from highly competitive athletes to those of us who just like to piddle around as an alternative to riding the train.

If someone can point to a specific post I made wherein I said anything remotely along the lines of (to quite Emilio) "you guys and your stupid Z06's, what a waste! I would never commute in one. Can't you see that my '04 Corolla is the only type of car that makes any sense? I hate you!" then I will happily apologize and be on my way. While I have certainly made several posts which espouse the joy of cycle commuting, and being to light the various cheap and shared bicycles which I utilize, I have posted no hate.

This all started when I wrote "Not being commuted upon every single day, carrying groceries, in sun, rain or snow? Don't care" as a joke immediately after Hustler changed the thread title to "ITT: Cycling glory thread; No CAAD, no care." A couple of individuals were unable to perceive the humor in this and posted scathing replied in which they accused me of being a [troll / hater / whetever], and it simply snowballed from there, with people assuming that I was deliberately being an ***.


Well you know what? This may be the bikefаg thread, but it's still MT. Certain individuals need to rinse the sand out of their vaginas and grow a thicker skin. I am not criticizing you or anyone else who enjoys cycling as a hobby. I don't think it's stupid, pointless, or a waste of anything. That illusion was created by others, and I'm getting tired of listening to people whine about it.

hustler

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I didn't intend to imply that any was superior to the other. I have an epic road bike, mountain bike, commuter bike, and vintage bike for a reason, they are all cool and serve a purpose.

Muthafuckaz in this thread need to let a playa play.

hustler

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How bad is 7 days off the bicycle going to hurt me tomorrow on a 62 mile ride?

emilio700

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Point taken. Apologies if I have exaggerated the intent behind your comments. No tongue in cheek emoticon you know.

Leafy

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Dammit, I was really hoping for an epic Joe Perez rant.

Joe Perez

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Thank you. And my apologies for failing to use the [sarcasm] tag initially. I'd assumed it would be obvious given the thread title change, and never really took the time to say "wait a sec, folks, I think we have misunderstanding here."

All else being equal, epic rants are something I reserve for topics which I take lightly. Being massively misinterpreted by people whose personal and professional opinions I respect is something which I take very seriously.

hustler

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Bicycling in general is pretty romantic. In other news, I was nearly ran over on the way home in my car by people not paying attention and honked at feverishly for not turning right on red, while oncoming traffic had a protected left. It's ******* scary out there.

hustler

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Would ride:

Savington

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Those little holes are where your ***** goes. One hole for every thrust required to bring you to sweet, sweet release.

Leafy

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So is that how you guys ride those road seats for such a long time? Micropenis.

hustler

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My ***** hangs out in front so I can show it to people while I pedal.

Savington

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I zip-tie mine to the seat stay so it makes a motorcycle noise when I pedal.

Leafy

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