If no one minds me asking, why do we all use LC-1s?
 

Is there some super feature or something that I don't know about or something? Seems like the LC1 is the most finicky, unreliable, nitpicky, most annoying wideband out there.

I know people are running like PLXs and AEMs and shit, so why do we all use LC1s? Serious question.

I use aem and never had any problems

I use AEM as well.

If you're running ver 1.1 firmware, back it down to 1.0, it's allot less troublesome.

C

I don't run an LC-1. AEM and happy.

I love my PLX. Would get another one.

Fastest reaction time, repeatable, accurate, cheap replacement sensors.

Running a PLX here and wouldn't use a LC1 if you gave it to me.

I've used the same PLX on my past three cars-- I love the gauage and feedback

I installed an LC-1 for a friend in his RX7 and he had it out and sold within the month. He hated it.

PLX user here.

I bought mine because it was cheap. And once in a while, while driving I have to cycle power because the gauge starts blinking like it's just been powered on.

Aem

I use the autometer nexus wideband because it matches the rest of my shit. It stays turned off on extended cranks and when the sensor starts to die is does stupid shit and then hangs at 14.7. It seems fairly accurate and is normally within .3-.5 of the wideband on the hydra. I chalk that up to the sensors being in different locations though.

I had an AEM originally. Never liked it. The display was both slow and jumpy (a hard thing to achieve) and the analog output seemed to drift in and out of calibration.

Changed it out for an LC-1 about a year and a half ago. Very pleased with it.

under 200 new with gauge from amazon is probably part of it.

AEM Eugo is under 200 too, it's only like 20 bucks more than the LC1.

What savington said, fastest reaction time with the readouts.

http://14point7.com/

That is where my wb came from. It kinda Rocks.

x3

never had any luck with LC-1s. just had another one (1.1 firmware mind you) go out for lunch and never punch back in.

my techedge has never given me any problems. much more stable output vs the LC1 and same cheap sensor. I normally use 2J techedge units when the customer can wait, if we are in a hurry we usually just order up an LC1, and regret it later on.

Whether a product is good or bad is nearly irrelevant, many just follow what others in a forum do...

aem uses the same 40 dollar bosch sensor as the lc1

1) Fast reaction time
2) 2 programmable outputs
3) Digital connection to the PC to verify results
4) Gives out obvious error codes when something is wrong. Cable is broken/worn/cut? You'll get an error code. Sensor has gone bad or is overheating? You'll get an error code.
5) Can be daisy-chained to other Innovate dataloggers - in fact, I have 4 LC-1s and an LM-1 on my car (and a couple of other shit too - TC-4, LMA-2, LMA-3, DL-32, see my sig)
6) Cheap
7) Easy to install if you simply follow the instructions.
8) ACCURATE

Use a AEM
But if I were to buy a new one it would be though www.14point7.com

got a 14point7 on the way now. Sensor is $51 at advance auto parts, and with the P20 coupon the sensor picked up will be $30something dollars

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You dont like the refresh rate of the AEM gauge?! lolz. Not to mention how ugly it looks.

it's a different connector and they are harder to source.

I bought the LC-1 mostly because it's cheap, accurate, fast, and has the dual programmable outputs. It's been on the car for 2.5 years and the only time it gave me trouble was when the display froze up from the sensor overheating during a track session. That's kind of my fault since I had it in the stock location in the OEM downpipe with no heat sink. When the turbo goes on it will be much farther downstream and will also have a copper plate heat sink, so I don't anticipate any trouble. I've been really happy with it overall.

I run a AEM no problems, I like it.

AEM; no issues or complaints.

so you like your ugly gauge and slow ass refresh speeds and shitty conversion into megasquirt?

It was cheap and I Like buying pieces of shit...

LC-1 problems = user error

I've had mine since 2006 and its been on two cars. Currently on my miata. Runs great on the original o2 sensor.

No problems here for 6mo. It was cheap, easy to install, and I like the adjustable refresh speeds and outputs. I'm using a $6 voltmeter for a gauge also.

Yes, I do. Point? :ky:

that i HATE you.

I run the non-gage type AEM on my miata (obviously communicates with my AEM EMS fine) and the gage type in my subaru (serial out communicates with romraider fine). Gage type is limited to displaying 11.0:1 max rich though, that sucks.

I love you.

Is the refresh rate issue only for the display? Or for the input to the MS as well?

Also don't see the issue with the conversions in MS... if you are talking about the one time edit in the file...

both.

I've had a PLX m300 for years, have had it on multiple cars and it's currently waiting to go in the next turbo car. Never tried the LC-1.