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JasonC SBB 09-23-2010 11:16 AM

Journalist faked toyota acceleration vid
 
Might be old news but I stumbled on this

http://gawker.com/5486666/how-abc-ne...ota-death-ride

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-23-2010 11:29 AM

Modern journalism at its best. This shit is to be expected now...

Joe Perez 09-23-2010 11:37 AM

So, because the original footage of the tach-in-motion was unusable, an editor made an artistic decision to splice in a different piece of footage.

And this affected the validity of the story in what way?

The actual news is that the test scenario which David Gilbert created is essentially an unrealistic fault condition- inserting a 200 ohm resistor between a pair of wires on the pedal sensor. In the real world, wires may very well short together (~ 0 ohms) or be cut / broken (~ ∞ ohms), or even immersed in a corrosove / conductive liquid (several kiloohms), and the ECU's fault-detection characteristics would have identified any of these failure modes and trapped them. But I can think of no plausible failure mode which would result in a 200 ohm bridge between two wires due to mechanical abrasion / assembly damage / whatever.

Essentially, Mr. Gilbert essentially went in and figured out precisely the correct conditions to inject a signal that was within normal operating parameters. Hell, I could do that with practically any system on any car if I had enough time on my hands. From an engineering perspective, this would be like removing the spring which closes the throttle plate (which would result in full acceleration) and then claiming that failure of the spring which closes the throttle body can result in uncommanded acceleration, and that the use of springs to manage the throttle plate is dangerous.

This isn't bad journalism- it's bad science.

Detailed analysis of the test:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/08/t...-demonstratio/

Braineack 09-23-2010 11:38 AM

shit hits v-tak hard.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-23-2010 11:54 AM

It doesnt matter, theyre journalist, that means no opinions, no show, all truth. If they didnt like they shot they got then though shit, you dont fake a shot of the car ripping to redline like a sport bike.
That was blantantly trying to make it scarier than it is. Everybody know that fag mobile is slow as shit. A real shot of the tach would show the needle creeping towards redline like hustlers homeosexual urges creep on him after a few beers, theres nothing scary about that.

Pen2_the_penguin 09-23-2010 12:08 PM

Wirelessly posted

oh em gee... big shock.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-23-2010 12:22 PM

This is just like "Were here in front of the whitehouse..." No youre fucking not youre in front a green screen.

hustler 09-23-2010 12:24 PM

In for $16,000,000.00 refund from NTSB to Toyota for the "unintended acceleration" fine.

mgeoffriau 09-23-2010 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 633568)
In for $16,000,000.00 refund from NTSB to Toyota for the "unintended acceleration" fine.

Sorry, it's already been added to the General Motors R&D budget.

gospeed81 09-23-2010 01:11 PM

I thought I posted that test a looong time ago, along with my commentary about how Toyota's rebuttal didn't make news, only weeks after all the sensationalism.


Pretty easy for the corporate owned media and NHTSA to throw mud on a company's name...incredibly hard to wipe it off.

Braineack 09-23-2010 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 633570)
Sorry, it's already been added to the General Motors R&D budget.


no, it's beer money for the union workers:

http://jalopnik.com/5645880/auto-wor...h-during-lunch

mgeoffriau 09-23-2010 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 633586)
no, it's beer money for the union workers:

http://jalopnik.com/5645880/auto-wor...h-during-lunch

Eh, who was I kidding? We all know GM doesn't need an R&D budget anymore.

Braineack 09-23-2010 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 633598)
Eh, who was I kidding? We all know GM doesn't need an R&D budget anymore.


yeah, it's called taxes. now we can all buy a 41K electric car, create black-outs in the neighborhood, and get a 7K tax write-off all at teh same time.

lordrigamus 09-23-2010 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 633586)
no, it's beer money for the union workers:

I wonder if the pot and beer was negotiated in their union contract.

Braineack 09-23-2010 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by lordrigamus (Post 633610)
i wonder if the pot and beer was negotiated forced in their union contract.


ftfy

lordrigamus 09-23-2010 02:10 PM

For realz.

JasonC SBB 09-23-2010 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 633570)
Sorry, it's already been added to the General Motors R&D budget.

Wrong, it went to the execs' bonuses. LOL


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