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hustler 09-25-2011 12:04 PM

Kartin Crew: Assemble
 
I drove a 100cc Yamaha Margay Brava last night for about 6-laps...it fucking ruined me, 3g of lateral acceleration is some serious shit. I think I'm going to buy one. I'll still run TT in the Miata, but I'm going w2w in a kart.

18psi 09-25-2011 01:58 PM

been thinking about getting one for a long time as well. and you couldn't have said it any better: it seriously RUINS any other car for you. everything afterwards is so.....bland....

pusha 09-25-2011 02:08 PM

Trey, everyone knows you just want to hang around 12 year olds.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KqQsYqm5HX...0/rape+van.jpg

hustler 09-25-2011 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 775621)
been thinking about getting one for a long time as well. and you couldn't have said it any better: it seriously RUINS any other car for you. everything afterwards is so.....bland....

I don't think the car ruins the experience of the Miata. However, I think there are aspects of driving a kart that will make me a significantly better driver. Corner entry on a kart and the absurd speed at which things happen will help me immensely in the Miata. I think the car will show me how to enter a corner and really plan on the exit, as I enter; I currently get to reevaluate my exit while mid-corner in the car.

However, I've only driven half a dozen laps in one so whatever.

Savington 09-25-2011 06:03 PM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...467_9616_n.jpg

Get a 125cc shifter or you're not a man.

18psi 09-25-2011 06:20 PM


18psi 09-25-2011 06:22 PM


hustler 09-25-2011 06:43 PM

Highpowered limo cart = gay as fuck

pusha 09-25-2011 06:48 PM

my neighbor has a 250cc shifter kart, easily the scariest anything ever

curly 09-25-2011 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 775682)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...467_9616_n.jpg

Get a 125cc shifter or you're not a man.

Are you sleeping?

pusha 09-25-2011 11:29 PM

nah, he's chinese

jacob300zx 09-25-2011 11:39 PM

Trey, I looked into this a couple of years ago. I think most of the racing was around Dallas and if I remember right the TAG kart class is what is most popular in your area. I think you can get a TAG cart for fairly cheap.

Faeflora 09-26-2011 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 775624)
Trey, everyone knows you just want to hang around 12 year olds.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KqQsYqm5HX...0/rape+van.jpg

I'm getting turned on. This is going to be my theme camp for burning man next year. Camp Rape Van.

soloracer 09-26-2011 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by jacob300zx (Post 775794)
Trey, I looked into this a couple of years ago. I think most of the racing was around Dallas and if I remember right the TAG kart class is what is most popular in your area. I think you can get a TAG cart for fairly cheap.

Shifter carts are sweet, but I think TAG is better bang for buck. If you dig it and get good then you can move to shifters. The one karting experience I had showed me I have enough to learn and keep busy with that I wouldn't want to add shifting to the mix. That shit can really test your stamina; especially in the heat.

Efini~FC3S 09-26-2011 03:31 PM

Welcome to 2 1/2 years ago.

https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs-here-4/went-kart-track-today-33052/

Seriously, that 125cc TAG kart is still the fastest thing I've ever driven.

The sad thing is I have access to an 80cc shifter kart and stacks of tires that need using, but I can't find any time to go Karting.

Efini~FC3S 09-26-2011 03:35 PM

Oh and karting is about the most affordable way to get good wheel to wheel action. My friend with the TAG kart I drove two years ago moved to Texas not long ago. He sold his TAG before moving down there because apparently the "Stock Moto" class was more popular, and maybe even more cost efficient. I believe stock moto is a 125cc shifter class where they use basically stock 125cc dirt bike motors.

My buddy does a decent amount of karting and is familiar with the Texas scene. He lives in San Angelo but travels to Dallas for kart races. Anyway, I can give you his info if your interested.

Bond 09-26-2011 05:23 PM

I have a 125cc shifter sitting in my barn with new tires. A track membership at NTK is only $350 or something. I live 15 minutes from the track now. What the hell am I doing.

I ran SWRA as well as sprint at NTK. Big tracks are way more fun. I ran 2 seconds slower than my formula ford at MSR on 3.1 circuit in the 125cc. Tune my car for shifter seat time? I really want to bring my miata out on NTK, that would be fun.

Savington 09-26-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 776002)
Oh and karting is about the most affordable way to get good wheel to wheel action. My friend with the TAG kart I drove two years ago moved to Texas not long ago. He sold his TAG before moving down there because apparently the "Stock Moto" class was more popular, and maybe even more cost efficient. I believe stock moto is a 125cc shifter class where they use basically stock 125cc dirt bike motors.

The photo from post 5 is my Stock Moto/Stock Honda 125cc shifter. They are basically bombproof - the engine is a stock Honda CR125 dirtbike motor with a pre-'97 6-speed gearbox, plugged power valves, and stock ignition. With a kart pipe they start making power around ~8k, they're fully lit by ~9500, shift point is just under 12k. They make ~31hp and the kart itself weighs ~190lbs wet.

It uses a motorcycle chain so it lasts forever, the chain gears are thick and big, engines are bombproof (piston every 15 hours, bottom end every 3-4 pistons) and cheap to maintain/repair, and they are idiot-level fast. I've got a data system on mine and 0-60 shows up in the low 3 second range, plus the ability to pull down 2.0g (sustained lateral).

The black car is faster in a straight line, but the shifter kart will always feel faster. Imagine doing track days in a Miata, except everything is on a 3x fast forward, and you'll get an idea of what it's like to drive a shifter kart.

Savington 09-26-2011 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 775760)
Are you sleeping?

I used to get really nervous before races, second-guessing setup decisions, wondering if I had missed anything in pre-race prep. Just calming myself down on the pre-grid before rolling out to the grid.

Bond 09-26-2011 05:54 PM

The sprint track in Denton is Ntkarters.com. Last time I ran, I was 1 of 2 shifter karts, the rest were rotax karts. That's why I started running big tracks. I just looked at this years point totals and it looks like they 7-10 shifters competing, maybe 4-5 every race night. Rotax's are easy, they have electric start, and are quick, but the shifter is so much more fun.

Also to be up front in karting, expect to spend a lot of money. But since you are probably in it to get some seat time and have fun, shifter karts are way are the way to go. I stopped karting big tracks when I could do a race weekend in a formula car for $250 less than a weekend with SWRA.

Pitlab77 09-27-2011 10:16 PM

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Me driving a friends rotax car a few years ago.

I keep telling myself that I will buy his kart since he never drivers it anymore.

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scary when you see how fast you are going on the data pack and then realize that you rear is an inch off the road with no suspension except for you spine.

The little 12 y.o. kids that weight nothing schooled me that day :giggle:.

soloracer 09-28-2011 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 775998)
Welcome to 2 1/2 years ago.

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthread.php?t=33052

Seriously, that 125cc TAG kart is still the fastest thing I've ever driven.

The sad thing is I have access to an 80cc shifter kart and stacks of tires that need using, but I can't find any time to go Karting.

Since you are apparently nearby, and familiar with the karting scene; what's the thing to run here? I'd like to do some stuff at Circleville and maybe even go up to Id Ohio with the DART guys. That would have to be a blast in a kart. I've been thinking of this for years and I'm just getting bored enough with my Ducati Monster to maybe sell it and get a kart.

Efini~FC3S 09-28-2011 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by soloracer (Post 776866)
Since you are apparently nearby, and familiar with the karting scene; what's the thing to run here? I'd like to do some stuff at Circleville and maybe even go up to Id Ohio with the DART guys. That would have to be a blast in a kart. I've been thinking of this for years and I'm just getting bored enough with my Ducati Monster to maybe sell it and get a kart.

Unfortunately I don't really know anything about karts/karting. What I do know is from my two buddies who have karted in Ohio. The few times I went to Circleville the TAG class seemed to have the best turn outs. The other guy I know runs 80cc shifters, and there seems to be a decent numbers in that class too.

When my buddy first moved here he did a bunch of research on which class to run, which one had the best local competition, economical to run etc. etc. and he ended up going with the 125cc TAG kart.

soloracer 09-28-2011 02:32 PM

Thanks. That's what I was looking at. I'll do some more research and maybe go down and talk so some folks at Circleville before spending any cash.

Efini~FC3S 09-28-2011 04:53 PM

I think I'll be doing some karting at circleville next year in an 80cc shifter. I've got access to use one, and I meant to do some this year but I was too busy with SCCA/NASA racing. I think I may cut out NASA and do karting instead.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2011 05:09 PM

I used to have a Margay with a KT-100. I cant think of much that was more fun that that thing, of course the shifter karts would lay the whoopin on me, but it was still hella fun.

turotufas 09-28-2011 05:32 PM

Drifting Kart Crew gonna assemble at Orlando Gran Prix in a few weeks. Posting video ITT weather y'all like it or not. :fawk:


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