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Old 03-15-2010, 12:07 AM
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So I'd like to hook up an auxiliary input to my stock 95 Honda Accord head unit, via the MBUS connector (used for an add-on Alpine 6 disk cd changer) on the back of the head unit.

The problem is emulating a cd player, so it can go into AUX mode.

Since my add-on Alpine changer won't read disks any more (head unit still works fine), can I just splice into the R/L channel lines of the MBUS cable and connect to my IPOD? I'm assuming it will still go into AUX mode since the changer is still present.

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Probably.

I'd cut the L and R wires, and tap the SIG GND line.
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Probably.

I'd cut the L and R wires, and tap the SIG GND line.
What do you tap the SIG GND to? I'm assuming another ground, but from where?
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I did something similar using the IPBUS input on a Pioneer head unit I had. Run the ground to the ground that will be coming out of the Ipod. If the volume is too low, even with the Ipod turned all the way up, get a battery-powered headphone amplifier from the shack. I had to do that.
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This is going to sound stupid, but where is the ground that comes out of the Ipod? I'm using a Y cable (2 RCA plugs to a mini jack) cable. I'm assuming there's a ground, but where is it on the Y cable?
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I believe the ground would be common between the 2 RCA jacks. It would be the outer "ring" on them.
On mine, I just cut the end off a 1/8th to 1/8th cable, it had 3 wires coming out of it. IIRC, ground would have continuity with postion 1 on those plugs in the picture.
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
This is going to sound stupid, but where is the ground that comes out of the Ipod? I'm using a Y cable (2 RCA plugs to a mini jack) cable. I'm assuming there's a ground, but where is it on the Y cable?
On each of the two RCA cables, you have a tip (center) and a sleeve (outer). The two tips are right and left. The two sleeves are both ground.

Alternately, you can forgo this RCA business and just use a 1/8" plug. See here for TRS pinout. Follow the right-most column under "stereo".

Tip = Left
Ring = Right
Sleeve = GND.
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Thanks to both of you.
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One more question, what do you think is signaling the head unit that there is an aux. connected? In other words, how can I emulate a cd changer w/ no changer actually there?
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One more question, what do you think is signaling the head unit that there is an aux. connected?
No idea. My guess would be that they communicate over the data bus line.

In other words, how can I emulate a cd changer w/ no changer actually there?
Obtain a serial data analyzer, capture and analyze the datastream that passes between the two devices, learn assembly, build and program a microcontroller to emulate that communication, connect it to the data bus, profit.
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