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modern 450s just make stupid power. youll ride one and go, why the *** would i turbo this. its like having a worked LSX in a miata.
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^truth. I had an '05 Honda CRF450R. That thing was absolutely phenomenal. Never wished for more power. I can only imagine what the new bikes are like with another ten years of development.
^fz-09?
Last week I was in Phoenix visiting family. I've been out there a few times before but have never been to the grand canyon or really anywhere outside the city. So I figured I'd rent a bike for a few days and see how much of az I could see. Ended up renting a kawi 650r.

It'd had a hard life with 79k miles on it. It was leaking oil and started overheating at traffic lights (110 degrees out when I got back to Phoenix) but it was really fun to ride. The first day I went from Phoenix to the grand canyon and back to flagstaff. Tried to take back roads as much as possible but had to cheat and take interstate for part of it or I wouldn't have had enough time. Second day I took 89a south from flagstaff through Sedona, jerome, ,Prescott and even further south. Really amazing scenery especially around Sedona. The pass between jerome and Prescott was my favorite bit though would've stayed and rode it a few more times but I had to get the bike back before the rental place closed.



Ended up covering 675mi over 2 days. Really amazing ride except for the last 80 mi of 110 degree heat (think I was border line heat stroke). Trying to convince my friends to go back with me next year and do it again.
Last week I was in Phoenix visiting family. I've been out there a few times before but have never been to the grand canyon or really anywhere outside the city. So I figured I'd rent a bike for a few days and see how much of az I could see. Ended up renting a kawi 650r.

It'd had a hard life with 79k miles on it. It was leaking oil and started overheating at traffic lights (110 degrees out when I got back to Phoenix) but it was really fun to ride. The first day I went from Phoenix to the grand canyon and back to flagstaff. Tried to take back roads as much as possible but had to cheat and take interstate for part of it or I wouldn't have had enough time. Second day I took 89a south from flagstaff through Sedona, jerome, ,Prescott and even further south. Really amazing scenery especially around Sedona. The pass between jerome and Prescott was my favorite bit though would've stayed and rode it a few more times but I had to get the bike back before the rental place closed.



Ended up covering 675mi over 2 days. Really amazing ride except for the last 80 mi of 110 degree heat (think I was border line heat stroke). Trying to convince my friends to go back with me next year and do it again.
After riding that 650 I've realize how underpowered / small my cbr250r is and am looking at getting something bigger. I'm looking at a ktm 690 duke or a yamaha fz-07. Anybody here ride one of these or have any suggestions?
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dirt bikes(mx specifically) are a little weird though, everything about them is designed for acceleration, they are made to get from 10-45mph right fukin now. but they tap out at 60-70 mph in moto gearing. think about how motocross courses are made, jump-turn-drag race-turn-drag race-jump-drag race-turn-drag race and so on.
You're going to love it! I debated long and hard between the FZ and FJ, and ended up with the FJ9 for the better suspension and luggage, but even the FJ is a total hooligan bike. You're going to want to do something with the suspension, though. The FZ really undersprung and underdamped stock.
That motor, though...
That motor, though...
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That's what everyone is saying about the suspension. I can't say it's bad at all. The roads around here are really rough and straight. Though i've only put like 36 miles on it. I thought about the FJ but for the added price it had things i didn't need, plus i can add on luggage to the FZ.
The motor is insane! I can't get enough of it.
The motor is insane! I can't get enough of it.
I loved it out there. Really big change in scenery from Maryland wetlands lol. Would probably move out there in the mountains if wasn't on the other side of the country.
they are both adequate.
nothing that works well in the sand is going to be street able, or even work well on the trails. i ride a lot of sand, and it plays no part in my tire choices. the performance difference in sand between a full on soft terrain or sand tire(not paddle) and IT or hard pack tire is quite small, there just not much that can be done with the tire design to improve sand performance without going to a full paddle. but the performance difference between a soft terrain and a hard terrrain knobby on every other surface is huge.
if you are having trouble with sand, you arnt going fast enough. sand is all about that throttle.
so focus on tire performance while on the trails and street and deal with the sand like a man with throttle.
nothing that works well in the sand is going to be street able, or even work well on the trails. i ride a lot of sand, and it plays no part in my tire choices. the performance difference in sand between a full on soft terrain or sand tire(not paddle) and IT or hard pack tire is quite small, there just not much that can be done with the tire design to improve sand performance without going to a full paddle. but the performance difference between a soft terrain and a hard terrrain knobby on every other surface is huge.
if you are having trouble with sand, you arnt going fast enough. sand is all about that throttle.
so focus on tire performance while on the trails and street and deal with the sand like a man with throttle.

Fair enough. I appreciate the advice.
I've been doing A LOT more riding than driving these days:

It's cheaper and more fun, lol, though now i want to add another bike to the stable and the "cheaper" part would no longer be true at all. Just more fun.
Erat, cool purchase with the yammi, and that's actually a very impressive 1/4 mile time, though definitely not what the bike is intended for

It's cheaper and more fun, lol, though now i want to add another bike to the stable and the "cheaper" part would no longer be true at all. Just more fun.
Erat, cool purchase with the yammi, and that's actually a very impressive 1/4 mile time, though definitely not what the bike is intended for
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