discuss reliability on teh track
12-05-2007, 11:30 PM
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discuss reliability on teh track
All these local ************* talk **** about how all the turbo cars around here aren't reliable on the track. Even the FM fanboy "turbo-spec" owners/drivers have reliability problems.
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12-05-2007, 11:54 PM
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Too decisive for you? Maybe I should make a poll?
And it took you nearly 15 minutes to come up with America Jr? Don't you know that most Canadians aren't all wrapped up in national pride bullshit .... hence we don't make war every 10 years or so.
But really, I'm sure someone will come along and give you a pat on the head to make you feel better.
And it took you nearly 15 minutes to come up with America Jr? Don't you know that most Canadians aren't all wrapped up in national pride bullshit .... hence we don't make war every 10 years or so.
But really, I'm sure someone will come along and give you a pat on the head to make you feel better.
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12-06-2007, 01:08 AM
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12-06-2007, 01:40 PM
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The increased stress of sustained high rpms and boost will strain any engine period. That said, there are plenty of boosted miatas that hit the track and do fine. Usually the extra load will expose your weakest link at the time and then you move on.
For example, back in the spring, my oil drain line started to crack and leak from the sustained heat being right next to the manifold. Replaced with a stainless line and moved on.
I think that as long as you keep an eye on your gauges (temp, afrs, etc...), use some common sense, and get off the track if you have concerns, you'll be fine. Simple things like skipping a session on a wet day or turning down the boost (when you finally turbo your car that is) a little on the particularly hot days might be the way to go for you. Bring extra parts/tools and be ready to limp home just in case.
I've talked to many of the guys who bring their boosted miata to the track and they've all had some stories about problems at the track, but all have made it back home without blowing their engine b/c they played it smart.
For example, back in the spring, my oil drain line started to crack and leak from the sustained heat being right next to the manifold. Replaced with a stainless line and moved on.
I think that as long as you keep an eye on your gauges (temp, afrs, etc...), use some common sense, and get off the track if you have concerns, you'll be fine. Simple things like skipping a session on a wet day or turning down the boost (when you finally turbo your car that is) a little on the particularly hot days might be the way to go for you. Bring extra parts/tools and be ready to limp home just in case.
I've talked to many of the guys who bring their boosted miata to the track and they've all had some stories about problems at the track, but all have made it back home without blowing their engine b/c they played it smart.
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12-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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I think I have my bases as covered as possible. I have stainless lines for everything and I'll have spare coolant hoses for the heater box. I'm worried about **** like cracked manifolds and downpipes, piping and coolant hoses blowing...**** like that.
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12-06-2007, 02:41 PM
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Just turbo your car and enjoy it already. Sheesh. Anything can happen. Hell, at the last track day, 5 cars left the track on tow trucks. None with blown engines. None were turboed. ALL were wrecked into a wall, and all but one was from the instructor group and the other was in group 4 (most advanced). It was a dry track. **** happens.
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12-06-2007, 03:06 PM
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Heat is the biggest issue. I don't know if you'll experience this but after a lap on a 75F day, I was boiling over. I have a PWR rad, new cap, Waterwetter and a low coolant to water mixture and I still was running hot. That and like I mentioned in another post, I melted an engine mount and an exhaust hanger. I've since added a shroud and dual Spal fan setup that seems to pull a lot more air through the IC/Condensor/Radiator so hopefully this will do the trick...or I'm going to get something better for the track.
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12-06-2007, 03:13 PM
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The reason these turbo cars are not "reliable" is cause the owners do not take the steps to make them track worthy with the supporting mods.Hustler,just make sure you prep your car right and take a full detail once over on everything the night before you go to the track and fix/repair any potential problems you see.
........jayc you got it all wrong.America sr. only starts wars when a new warlord gets elected into the white house.Gotta show the rest of the world not to **** with the new leader and what he's capable of.
........jayc you got it all wrong.America sr. only starts wars when a new warlord gets elected into the white house.Gotta show the rest of the world not to **** with the new leader and what he's capable of.
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12-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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Heat is the biggest issue. I don't know if you'll experience this but after a lap on a 75F day, I was boiling over. I have a PWR rad, new cap, Waterwetter and a low coolant to water mixture and I still was running hot. That and like I mentioned in another post, I melted an engine mount and an exhaust hanger. I've since added a shroud and dual Spal fan setup that seems to pull a lot more air through the IC/Condensor/Radiator so hopefully this will do the trick...or I'm going to get something better for the track.
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12-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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yes....heat kills....and yes this was on the track:
had i been smart and not made a bracket for the exhaust to bolt to the tranny, it would have never happened.
i was also smart and relocated my PS line (which i previously has near the manifold). It burst randomly on the street, even insulated in heat wrap, it melted and finally gave way.
just ******* run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.
had i been smart and not made a bracket for the exhaust to bolt to the tranny, it would have never happened.
i was also smart and relocated my PS line (which i previously has near the manifold). It burst randomly on the street, even insulated in heat wrap, it melted and finally gave way.
just ******* run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.
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12-06-2007, 03:29 PM
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yes....heat kills....and yes this was on the track:
had i been smart and not made a bracket for the exhaust to bolt to the tranny, it would have never happened.
i was also smart and relocated my PS line (which i previously has near the manifold). It burst randomly on the street, even insulated in heat wrap, it melted and finally gave way.
just ******* run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.
had i been smart and not made a bracket for the exhaust to bolt to the tranny, it would have never happened.
i was also smart and relocated my PS line (which i previously has near the manifold). It burst randomly on the street, even insulated in heat wrap, it melted and finally gave way.
just ******* run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.
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