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rmcelwee 01-07-2008 12:39 AM

My wife wants a Wii - any advice on modding?
 
I haven't done much research yet (only browsed a few site for a couple of minutes). It looks like you just pop in a modchip, buy a certain type DVD burner and go to town. Anyone have any advice/experience with this?

karter74 01-07-2008 01:53 AM

Well if you don't get one of the early ones used, the new ones are proving to be quite difficult to mod, only a handful of chips support the new chipset in the new Wii and there are many more solder points than previous chipsets. The solder points are about the size of abraham lincolns nose on a penny and you need to use 30awg wire for it. Obviously you need some soldering skills and a steady hand as well, not for the faint of heart. D2C Key I believe is the hot new chip out, and no, you don't need a special burner, just make sure you use quality media. I'm lucky enough to have gotten a Wii right at launch, built a PIC chip programmer, got some free PIC chips, and programmed it with some hex code I found online.

mazda/nissan 01-07-2008 01:56 AM

i just run mine bone stock while blasting corrupted space pirates and leave the media up to media devices :dunno:

rmcelwee 01-07-2008 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 194860)
i just run mine bone stock while blasting corrupted space pirates and leave the media up to media devices :dunno:

I've never ran anything bone stock in my entire life! I just can't seem to keep from taking stuff apart...

swimming108 01-07-2008 04:14 AM

I am the same way.
That is why i built my PC from scratch.
But when it comes to the wii, i actually recommend leaving it stock.
It is a tough one to mod, with little to no real benefit.

Markp 01-07-2008 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 194832)
I haven't done much research yet (only browsed a few site for a couple of minutes). It looks like you just pop in a modchip, buy a certain type DVD burner and go to town. Anyone have any advice/experience with this?

Well make sure the wife plays naked like the models on the net.

You want to make the investment pay off. ;)

Mark

rmcelwee 01-07-2008 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by swimming108 (Post 194901)
I am the same way.
That is why i built my PC from scratch.
But when it comes to the wii, i actually recommend leaving it stock.
It is a tough one to mod, with little to no real benefit.

The ability to play backups and homebrew programs is no real benefit???

Arkmage 01-07-2008 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by karter74 (Post 194858)
there are many more solder points than previous chipsets. The solder points are about the size of abraham lincolns nose on a penny and you need to use 30awg wire for it. Obviously you need some soldering skills and a steady hand as well, not for the faint of heart.

I'm a shaky handed fool, I managed to mod my xbox without a problem and it also uses 32 awg jumper wire. Unless the Wii is drastically smaller than what I was working with it really shouldn't be that hard. Besides, if you buy it at walmart the odds of them checking the case seals when you return it are very low.

Agent935 01-07-2008 09:51 AM

The big thing in Wii modding is more using the Wii-mote for other than intended purposes. like as a motion sensitive drum kit, to controll robots, or as a G-tech. There seems to be a fair bit of case modding too.

karter74 01-07-2008 11:43 AM

Modding the wii really isn't too bad, it is difficult, but by far the most difficult system I have ever modded is a PS2, having to solder 30awg wires directly to the legs of an IC chip, one right next to another. But the benefits of modding a Wii are fantastic, at the same time you now have a modded Gamecube and whether you believe it or not, the Gamecube had a library of great games. Best part of that is, since the Wii accepts full size DVD's (unlike the Gamecube) there is software out there that lets you put multiple Gamecube titles on a DVD, letting you select them through a boot menu.

Checkout www.wiinewz.com for info, or www.tehskeen.com

Good luck!

rmcelwee 01-07-2008 09:05 PM

Wow, get out the soldering iron!

http://www.iso420.org/wii/d2ckey/solder1_small.jpg

trito 01-07-2008 09:23 PM

I have a new wii and my friend modded it for me. He said it's a lot harder than the older ones because Nintendo actually cut off the legs on the chip. He was still able to sodder it on though but he said I have to becareful with it because if I drop it the chip might fall off...

iWeasel410 01-08-2008 12:21 AM

The newer Wiis have the D2C (I think) chip which takes more wires to mod, but it's still not bad if you have a good soldering iron and a fine tip, just tin the wire then touch it to the board point, don't bother with extra solder otherwise you'll make a mess. I run a WiiFree with an external socket in my older Wii (D2A I believe, can't remember I modded it so long ago). I have a PIC programmer so if you need a chip coded let me know and I can dig it up for you. Have you checked out www.wiinewz.com ? I've also done a TSOP split on the original xbox with an external switch to switch between banks, and a slim PSTwo. The PSTwo was difficult, took me about two hours to do it.

rmcelwee 01-08-2008 02:13 AM

Yep, check it out and I am working on a game plan. It looks like it costs about $550 to get started on this. Pretty expensive so my wife can play "ride the cow" or whatever screwed up game she came home freaking out over...

fmowry 01-08-2008 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 195594)
Yep, check it out and I am working on a game plan. It looks like it costs about $550 to get started on this. Pretty expensive so my wife can play "ride the cow" or whatever screwed up game she came home freaking out over...

$550 for the system and modding it? I sold Wiis pre-Christmas on ebay. Made an easy $1500 for about 4 hours work. You should be able to find more on Craigslist new for ~$300 if you can't find one at Toys R Us or Walmart for $250. Just call the listings for $350 and offer 'em $300. There was a glut 2 weeks ago and people were selling them new for $300 in the Baltimore area.

She can ride the cow for the price of the system and a WiiPlay (extra remote and cow game) for ~$300 if you can get it retail.

Frank

rmcelwee 01-08-2008 08:07 AM

Wii - $350 (I guess I have to buy a used one to get an easy one to chip)
DVD burner - $90 shipped (only looked 1 place so far)
Blank DVD's - $30
Extra controller - $50 (not sure what they really cost)
One month membership to Blockbuster - $20
Total Cost = $540 to play ride the cow


FWIW, I bought a pre-Xmas Wii 13 months ago when they first came out. Paid $700 or whatever for the huge sports package with 15 games. Ended up breaking even on it. There were so many of them on Ebay that prices were actually down. I posted it forsale in the local newspaper and only got one offer in 10 days. I spent 20 hours trying to buy one on the internet and thought I was going to get rich on it...

fmowry 01-08-2008 01:15 PM

I used wiialerts.com to send a text to my cell phone whenever Amazon got them in stock. Since I sit on a computer for a living, I had the wii page on Amazon up when I got the alert. I'd simply go and add 3 and have them shipped for free with no tax. Did this twice, plus the two I lucked out on at Toys R us. I sold one with a WiiPlay and extra nunchuk for $670 shipped on ebay and the rest between $540 shipped and $620 for the same "bundle". I got these prices 2 weeks before Xmas at the peak of the selling frenzy.

Not bad since I did this from work. Just had to hit Staples to UPS 'em.

Frank

iWeasel410 01-09-2008 12:56 AM

I use a NEC dual layer burner, real old, something like the 3540A or something. I burn games at 2x on Prodisc media and haven't had any problems at all.

rmcelwee 01-09-2008 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by iWeasel410 (Post 196316)
I use a NEC dual layer burner, real old, something like the 3540A or something. I burn games at 2x on Prodisc media and haven't had any problems at all.

Hmmm, I keep seeing this list floating around as the only drives that work:

Compatible IDE/USB DVD-ROM Drives:

* LG-8164b
* LG-8163b
* LG-8162b
* LG-8161b

karter74 01-09-2008 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 195626)
Wii - $350 (I guess I have to buy a used one to get an easy one to chip)
DVD burner - $90 shipped (only looked 1 place so far)
Blank DVD's - $30
Extra controller - $50 (not sure what they really cost)
One month membership to Blockbuster - $20
Total Cost = $540 to play ride the cow


FWIW, I bought a pre-Xmas Wii 13 months ago when they first came out. Paid $700 or whatever for the huge sports package with 15 games. Ended up breaking even on it. There were so many of them on Ebay that prices were actually down. I posted it forsale in the local newspaper and only got one offer in 10 days. I spent 20 hours trying to buy one on the internet and thought I was going to get rich on it...


I think you're prices are a tad skewed, $90 for a DVD burner??? Maybe if it was made of solid gold!!! Look, if you know where to look, games are free to download, and you can't just pop a retail game in your drive and copy it, so no go there. Really, if you aren't too computer literate, modding a system may not be for you. If your computer was built within the last couple of years, I would be really surprised if your computer didn't already have a DVD burner in it. If not, they cost like $30 on www.newegg.com

If you have any electronic knowledge you can build your own chip programmer for under $10, and get the blank chips for free as samples from large companies.

Overall, unless you think you can figure out the whole thing and willing to do some reading on it, maybe this isn't for you.


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