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levnubhin 09-19-2008 10:04 AM

New GTR R35 VS Corvette C6 Z06 Race in Oman.
 
I was riding along a new Z06 (damn I want one)this morning and was wondering if there were any youtube vids between the two of them yet, so I searched.



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jayc72 09-19-2008 11:07 AM

I wants a Z06.

levnubhin 09-19-2008 02:08 PM


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naarleven 09-19-2008 03:58 PM

I wants a GTR and a Haltech.


11.1 @ 124

Fireindc 09-19-2008 05:12 PM

I'd rather have the zo6.

18psi 09-19-2008 05:37 PM

id rather have both

ProjectFox87 09-19-2008 10:36 PM

I would honestly choose the GTR, Too many old guys have z06's =/

kotomile 09-20-2008 01:39 AM

Heh, script in first vid at 0:11 says "The GT new 2009" and the script at 0:17 says "Kurfyt zee ow 6 wakalehe" Funny how sometimes arabic can be very phonetic.

levnubhin 09-20-2008 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by ProjectFox87 (Post 310282)
I would honestly choose the GTR, Too many old guys have z06's =/


Who do you think will be able to afford GTR's?
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kotomile 09-20-2008 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 310342)
Who do you think will be able to afford GTR's?

Good point, but the Skyline doesn't have the same rapport with older folks that a good ole 'Vette does. I'd bet we'll see the Z06 having younger owners relative to other Corvettes, but older relative to the Nissan.

elesjuan 09-20-2008 12:34 PM

I really like those guys over in the UAE, the videos they make are very good. The OPs youtube find I saw about five months ago, read the comments on it. Everyone is 100% sure that theres either A. Something modified on the vette to make it faster than a stock 505hp Z06, or B. The driver of the GTR 'threw the race' to make the vette look faster. From what I understand, one guy owns both of those cars, so I doubt hes that bias.

What would I rather have? The Z06. I dont give a shit if old guys have them or not. 505hp Stock + 9psi Procharger == Good Bye ZL1.

ray_sir_6 09-20-2008 12:58 PM

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Had one up here Thursday to dyno. Almost makes at the wheels what they advertise at the crank.

levnubhin 09-20-2008 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310377)
http://img.photobucket.com/abums/v65...0Cars/GTR3.jpg

Had one up here Thursday to dyno. Almost makes at the wheels what they advertise at the crank.


I read that in a magazine recently. I think is was Sport Compact Car. They were able to dyno a few of them and found that they all made over 500 crank HP according to their math.
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944obscene 09-20-2008 02:45 PM

Yeah, Nissan's numbers are kinda bull. No. They're really bull. The output of these things is over what they are stating from the factory. That's what I don't understand. Nissan goes around making all these wild claims, then has shady power figures and judging from this video, the car just isn't living up.

Great piece of engineering, but I'd take a Base corvette over a GTR. But, I've driven a few C6's, so I can say that I actually like the way they feel. I'd be perfectly happy with one.

ray_sir_6 09-20-2008 02:58 PM

I won't take a Vette until they start using modern technology. DOHC and coilovers at all 4 corners. Till then it can be the fastest car in the world, and I wouldn't take one if it was GIVEN to me.

greenday3437 09-20-2008 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310416)
Till then it can be the fastest car in the world, and I wouldn't take one if it was GIVEN to me.

:rly:

kotomile 09-20-2008 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 310367)
I really like those guys over in the UAE, the videos they make are very good.

FYI, UAE != Oman... :)

elesjuan 09-20-2008 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310416)
I won't take a Vette until they start using modern technology. DOHC and coilovers at all 4 corners. Till then it can be the fastest car in the world, and I wouldn't take one if it was GIVEN to me.

Fine, Give it to me. I think general motors has proven TIME AND TIME AGAIN they DON'T NEED > 2 valves per cylinder. DOHC == Overrated.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...uspension.html

By that article its also pretty obvious on a properly engineered car Coilovers are overrated aswell.

Kotomile: You suck.. Its close enough. ;)

944obscene 09-20-2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310416)
I won't take a Vette until they start using modern technology. DOHC and coilovers at all 4 corners. Till then it can be the fastest car in the world, and I wouldn't take one if it was GIVEN to me.

That makes no sense. Projected hypothetical situation...

"Here you go. A car that performs better than any other car in the world."

"No thanks. I'd rather have a car that doesn't perform as well and uses 'better' technology'."

MX_Eva 09-20-2008 10:07 PM

944 you are confusing me. You are hating on nissan for playing a very old japanese manufacturer game.

OH MY GOD! how can they give shady (underrated) power numbers?! people will find out and be.... happy!

The corvette z06 is very far from out performing any other car in the world. I know of a lot of porsches and ferraris that like proper coil overs and dohc.

NoiseRacing 09-21-2008 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by 944obscene (Post 310484)
That makes no sense. Projected hypothetical situation...

"Here you go. A car that performs better than any other car in the world."

"No thanks. I'd rather have a car that doesn't perform as well and uses 'better' technology'."

Way off topic...... hey bud your from the sphere.


And there are a bunch of SOHC that put out more than many DOHC.

ray_sir_6 09-21-2008 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by 944obscene (Post 310484)
That makes no sense. Projected hypothetical situation...

"Here you go. A car that performs better than any other car in the world."

"No thanks. I'd rather have a car that doesn't perform as well and uses 'better' technology'."

Exactly. I respect the Vette for what it can do, but imagine how much BETTER it would be with a DOHC V8 with coilovers all around. Do you think the C6R is using that same leaf spring setup? HELL NO. I will not own one until they take advangtage of the technology at hand, not still relying on 1960s technology and just making it work by throwing tons of money at it. For all the money they spent on the 7.0l pushord, they could have made a DOHC 4.0l V8 that revs to 9500rpm, and makes 600hp. It wouldn't have as much torque, but they could have gotten it close. They could have used the same weight saving techniques on the smaller DOHC motor and had an even lighter engine at the front, which might have made the rear transaxle unnecessary to balance the car. Plus they could have adjustable coilovers STOCK, like the GT2/3 from Porsche. Corvette is supposed to be the flagship for GM, so make it the fastest, but also the most modern, car in the fleet. I'm not even gonna get into the interior, cause, WOW, serious crap there.

TurboTim 09-21-2008 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310655)
Exactly. I respect the Vette for what it can do, but imagine how much BETTER it would be with a DOHC V8 with coilovers all around. Do you think the C6R is using that same leaf spring setup? HELL NO. I will not own one until they take advangtage of the technology at hand, not still relying on 1960s technology and just making it work by throwing tons of money at it. For all the money they spent on the 7.0l pushord, they could have made a DOHC 4.0l V8 that revs to 9500rpm, and makes 600hp. It wouldn't have as much torque, but they could have gotten it close. They could have used the same weight saving techniques on the smaller DOHC motor and had an even lighter engine at the front, which might have made the rear transaxle unnecessary to balance the car. Plus they could have adjustable coilovers STOCK, like the GT2/3 from Porsche. Corvette is supposed to be the flagship for GM, so make it the fastest, but also the most modern, car in the fleet. I'm not even gonna get into the interior, cause, WOW, serious crap there.

But then we wouldn't be able to cram the GM engine into our miatas.

bripab007 09-23-2008 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310655)
Exactly. I respect the Vette for what it can do, but imagine how much BETTER it would be with a DOHC V8 with coilovers all around. Do you think the C6R is using that same leaf spring setup? HELL NO.

So you're saying that the street cars should be made with coilover springs to add weight to the car (in the form of sprung and un-sprung weight) and force them to put larger sway bars on, all in the name of being able to have a cheaper, larger selection of spring rates to choose from? You do realize that's the primary reason the ALMS team uses coilover springs instead of the more expensive, more difficult to manufacture, lighter, composite leafs, right?


I will not own one until they take advangtage of the technology at hand, not still relying on 1960s technology and just making it work by throwing tons of money at it. For all the money they spent on the 7.0l pushord, they could have made a DOHC 4.0l V8 that revs to 9500rpm, and makes 600hp.
So, in order to make as much power/torque as the 7.0L pushrod V8, you're proposing they should engineer a more expensive, physically larger engine? You realize how expensive that would've been to build a ~4.0ish-liter DOHC V8 from scratch that makes as much power as the LS7 without being any heavier? Then you'd still have to figure out how to get it under the Corvette hood.


Corvette is supposed to be the flagship for GM, so make it the fastest, but also the most modern, car in the fleet.
Am I missing something here? Is there a faster car that GM sells than the 'Vette?

944obscene 09-24-2008 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by NoiseRacing (Post 310609)
Way off topic...... hey bud your from the sphere.


And there are a bunch of SOHC that put out more than many DOHC.


As in 6s? Yep. That's me. Don't let them know. I've been looking at a Miata lately and wanted to educate myself on the cars. So I decided to do what a forum junkie does. I joined up on some Miata forums! lol.

944obscene 09-24-2008 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 310655)
I will not own one until they take advangtage of the technology at hand, not still relying on 1960s technology and just making it work by throwing tons of money at it.

... It worked for Porsche.;)


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