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Old 06-27-2013, 02:15 PM
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Even with safe search off I still can't see ****, and for that reason im forced to use bing image search.

Also, the chevy V6 may work better for swaps then the ford b/c it looks to be a OHV design, whereas im guessing the ford is a overhead cam engine, and thus wider and taller then the gm 4.6.

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Originally Posted by gearhead_318
Even with safe search off I still can't see ****, and for that reason im forced to use bing image search.

Also, the chevy V6 may work better for swaps then the ford b/c it looks to be a OHV design, whereas im guessing the ford is a overhead cam engine, and thus wider and taller then the gm 4.6.

Yes. Anyone who suggests a Ford engine clearly has never looked at one ... as you've pictured, they are WIDE.
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Originally Posted by thasac
Well, it's an LS based block (supposedly) which means it should bolt to a V8 roadster subframe.

It's also aluminum, direct injection, and VVT. Since it's a base truck engine it should be a cheap junkyard buy in another 2 years.
If ALL that is true, we may be onto something in 2 years.

I've a feeling it will be more like 5-10 years though.
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Thats cos google disabled **** searches via images a couple months ago.

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Just did a search for "*** guzzling teens". Was satisfied. Google images still working fine.
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Mazda's KLZE
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Originally Posted by 2ndGearRubber
Just did a search for "*** guzzling teens". Was satisfied. Google images still working fine.
Try **** on google vs bing (images).
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I thought this was going to be the new hot swap, but it doesnt sound like anybody is hopping on the ball yet

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looks like a miata engine.
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:03 AM
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Not quite:


But it bolts up to RX7 trans with like a B2600 bellhousing or somethin'
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:22 AM
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F series? L series?
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Might as well just swap the AWD platform too and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
Might as well just swap the AWD platform too and call it a day.
Might as well build a tube frame car with a fiberglass body?

Naw... Id rather bolt a transmission on and hack up a subframe, lol
Im really amazed nobody has tried it yet. If I ever get another Miata I think I would seriously consider it.
Not sure what the oil pan situation is like though.
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And here I was thinking it was probably some honda faggatory.
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LOL @ guys comparing the new 4.3 V6 with the one in the old S-10's. Not even in the same realm guys. The new 4.3 would really be a sweet, sweet motor, and it's going to make an awesome base engine in the pickups that will put the DOHC mills from Ford and Ram to shame.

Not hangin' on GM's ***** here but it's really impressive what they've done with that motor.
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Originally Posted by turbofan
put the DOHC mills from Ford and Ram to shame.
idk about that
The NA 3.7 V6 Ford/Mazda engine is putting out 305/280 NA and the 3.5L version is making 365/420 with turbloz.
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
idk about that
The NA 3.7 V6 Ford/Mazda engine is putting out 305/280 NA and the 3.5L version is making 365/420 with turbloz.
Obviously the base Chev motor won't compare with the top line ecoboost. I'm talking base v6s all around. And before you say "nobody buys the base v6 anyway" sales numbers show otherwise.

The 4.3 makes 285 HP and 305 lb ft. Check the power @ rpm and torque vs. HP numbers and tell me which one is the best truck engine.
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Arguing best truck engine for Miata swap.

Great thread!
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Forget the V6's, the 2.0L ecoboost 4 cyl is more compact, idk what type of engine management you'd use for a direct injection engine.
From wikipedia:
A 2.0 L version was first seen in the 2008 Ford Explorer America Concept.[4] The engine was rated at 275 hp (205 kW; 279 PS) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m).

It is the first EcoBoost engine to include Twin-Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), with advertised 10–20% better fuel economy while maintaining the performance of 3.0-liter V6 engines.[20][21]
Specifications[edit]

Type-Turbocharged, direct petrol injected inline four cylinder engine with Twin independent Variable Camshaft Timing
Displacement-1,999 cc (2 L; 122 cu in)More Details
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Turbocharged, direct petrol injected inline four cylinder engine with Twin independent Variable Camshaft Timing
Displacement
1,999 cc (2 L; 122 cu in)
Bore
87.5 mm (3.4 in)
Stroke
83.1 mm (3.3 in)
Compression ratio: 10.0:1
Valve gear: DOHC with 4 valves per cylinder, twin independent variable cam timing
Cylinder head: DOHC Gravity die cast aluminium alloy with sintered valve guides and seats
Cylinder block: High pressure die casting aluminium alloy with bed plate
Camshaft drive: Single chain
Crankshaft: Cast iron with 47mm-diameter crankpins, eight counterweights, five 52mm-diameter main bearings and damped front pulley
Engine management: Bosch MED17 with CAN-Bus and individual knock control
Fuel injection: High pressure fuel direct injection with 7-hole injectors
Turbocharger: Borg Warner K03 low inertia integrated turbo system
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Arguing best truck engine for Miata swap.

Great thread!
Steps for best Miata swap:

1) remove truck engine.

2) modify subframe.

3) install truck engine.


But seriously, you guys are thinking too big. I'd go with the 3-cyl 1L ecoboost. With a larger turbo from the 1.6 version, it made 200hp in the formula ford they put it in. They are coming to the US in 2014 supposedly.
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