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Schuyler 06-25-2016 02:08 PM

Purchasing cars remotely
 
I have found a car I'm pretty interested in, but the issue is it is 29hrs away. I am considering having the dealership do a pre-purchase inspection, and if I'm happy with how everything looks, having the car transported to me. It's cheaper than flying there and driving it back, and way less time consuming.

Anyone have anything to comment on the subject?

adryargument 06-25-2016 02:18 PM

Why don't you buy someone on the forum a bottle if their favourite to go look at it for you?

Braineack 06-25-2016 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by adryargument (Post 1341278)
Why don't you buy someone on the forum a bottle if their favourite to go look at it for you?

I did exactly this before I flew down to pick up my MB. But it was only a 6 hour drive back home :P

Schuyler 06-25-2016 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by adryargument (Post 1341278)
Why don't you buy someone on the forum a bottle if their favourite to go look at it for you?

The thought has occurred to me. However, while a name or two has come to mind that are within 20min of the car, there isn't anyone on here I actually like, actively communicate with 1 on 1 that lives in the area. So I'd basically just be picking someone at random and asking them if they'd be down to go check out a car for me. Which seems kind of, idk.

codrus 06-25-2016 04:00 PM

For buying a car remotely, I want:

1) a good (probably fairly long) conversation with the seller on the phone, to try to get a sense of what kind of person he/she is.

2) lots of photos, a couple dozen at least, a hundred would be better. Taken in decent light, when the car is clean & dry, with a camera that doesn't suck, both overall shots and detail shots of everything relevant.

3) a carfax, duh

4) a pre-purchase inspection by a shop specializing in the particular area I'm concerned about.

--Ian

thumpetto007 06-25-2016 06:51 PM

My miata was 18hours away, I flew out really cheaply, got a local shop to verify my evaluation, shouldn't have bought it, because the seller didn't budge on price at all. I should have paid 5000 AT MOST.

I should have said see ya later, flew home, and waited for another vehicle to come up.

It is very difficult to have leverage in a negotiation when you are not close to home, and/or in person.

Good luck.

Schuyler 06-25-2016 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1341320)
My miata was 18hours away, I flew out really cheaply, got a local shop to verify my evaluation, shouldn't have bought it, because the seller didn't budge on price at all. I should have paid 5000 AT MOST.

I should have said see ya later, flew home, and waited for another vehicle to come up.

It is very difficult to have leverage in a negotiation when you are not close to home, and/or in person.

Good luck.

I would have had all negotiating done before I flew out there, though in this instance I'm not even considering flying out there. lol



Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1341297)
For buying a car remotely, I want:

1) a good (probably fairly long) conversation with the seller on the phone, to try to get a sense of what kind of person he/she is.

2) lots of photos, a couple dozen at least, a hundred would be better. Taken in decent light, when the car is clean & dry, with a camera that doesn't suck, both overall shots and detail shots of everything relevant.

3) a carfax, duh


4) a pre-purchase inspection by a shop specializing in the particular area I'm concerned about.

--Ian


Pretty much in line with my thoughts.

18psi 06-25-2016 07:22 PM

I don't trust anyone to inspect cars for me. Because I am without a doubt the pickiest and most thorough/OCD person I've met and usually find 5x more things wrong with a car than even the pro's.

That said, it really depends on what kind of car we're talking about here.

Moar details?

Is it a rare sports car of sorts, or just a daily/family car?

shuiend 06-25-2016 07:34 PM

I believe it is a specific BMW.

Schuyler 06-25-2016 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1341326)
I don't trust anyone to inspect cars for me. Because I am without a doubt the pickiest and most thorough/OCD person I've met and usually find 5x more things wrong with a car than even the pro's.

That said, it really depends on what kind of car we're talking about here.

Moar details?

Is it a rare sports car of sorts, or just a daily/family car?

Daily, but I've had a bitch of a time finding exactly what I want.

2010, 335i, manual, sedan.

Guy had the turbos replaced 14k ago. (common factory issue to go wrong somewhere above 60-70k). HPFP was also replaced (another common issue).

Has sport+premium+iDrive+Logic7+xenon lights. 84k miles. New tires. All maintenance documented and done at the dealership.

It really ticks all the checkboxes and then some. Except for color, as it's Titanium silver. Not my favorite, but I think it still looks good.
And the fact it's across the country, and he wants a little more than I think it's worth, but I haven't gotten interested enough yet I've tried to talk him down yet. He's around 2k over kbb. But, he also seems to know he's got a rare setup and that a lot of people will probably pay a premium for it. These sedans in manual really are a pain to find.

G3ML1NGZ 06-25-2016 07:38 PM

flew from Iceland to Germany to pick up a car and then drove it all the way back. But I had others lined up to check out in case the car wasn't as advertised.

and a manual 335i sounds sweet

hornetball 06-25-2016 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by G3ML1NGZ (Post 1341333)
flew from Iceland to Germany to pick up a car and then drove it all the way back.

James Bond car that can cross ocean?

G3ML1NGZ 06-25-2016 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1341336)
James Bond car that can cross ocean?

naah, ferry. but my point is that if you intend on making a trip out of it at least have something else to check out so you don't feel compelled to either buy or jump ship since you made the trip

Schuyler 06-25-2016 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by G3ML1NGZ (Post 1341337)
naah, ferry. but my point is that if you intend on making a trip out of it at least have something else to check out so you don't feel compelled to either buy or jump ship since you made the trip

Yeah, I have 0 intentions of driving it back. I'm either going to buy it remotely, or not at all. If anything, I'd spend the $500 on a round trip ticket and: fly out, buy it, get it on the carrier, and fly back.

But I'd be much more likely just to do it via a lot of pictures and a bmw inspection.

aidandj 06-25-2016 08:23 PM

I'll fly out and drive it to you for the cost of gas and tickets. :)

Not even joking. Text me.

thumpetto007 06-25-2016 08:25 PM

Nice car, I like the 135i coupes better. My friend had one with the full dual intake, intercooler, tune, full exhaust, the rear end from an automatic car, race pads, He daily drove it with R comps.

That car was pretty fun in the dry, to say the least.

Schuyler 06-25-2016 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1341344)
Nice car, I like the 135i coupes better. My friend had one with the full dual intake, intercooler, tune, full exhaust, the rear end from an automatic car, race pads, He daily drove it with R comps.

That car was pretty fun in the dry, to say the least.

Yeah, but have you ridden in that back of one? lol. I already have a fun two seater, I want something fun and comfortable to drive to work every day and what not. I'm not even looking at cars that don't have 4 doors.

thumpetto007 06-25-2016 09:20 PM

^yeah, I don't have many friends, no kids, so I go for the coupes :) Just from a design standpoint, I like the 135i better. Not a family car though.

codrus 06-25-2016 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1341342)
I'll fly out and drive it to you for the cost of gas and tickets. :)

Plane tickets or speeding tickets? :)

--Ian

aidandj 06-26-2016 12:02 AM

:fawk:

Stealth97 06-26-2016 10:08 AM

I found a super nice 335i here, 06 and only 60k miles. Price was right too. Turbo issues scared me away.

Schuyler 06-26-2016 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 1341409)
I found a super nice 335i here, 06 and only 60k miles. Price was right too. Turbo issues scared me away.

Yeah... the fact this guy has already had them replaced under warranty is super appealing to me.

18psi 06-26-2016 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Schuyler (Post 1341331)
Daily, but I've had a bitch of a time finding exactly what I want.

2010, 335i, manual, sedan.

Guy had the turbos replaced 14k ago. (common factory issue to go wrong somewhere above 60-70k). HPFP was also replaced (another common issue).

Has sport+premium+iDrive+Logic7+xenon lights. 84k miles. New tires. All maintenance documented and done at the dealership.

It really ticks all the checkboxes and then some. Except for color, as it's Titanium silver. Not my favorite, but I think it still looks good.
And the fact it's across the country, and he wants a little more than I think it's worth, but I haven't gotten interested enough yet I've tried to talk him down yet. He's around 2k over kbb. But, he also seems to know he's got a rare setup and that a lot of people will probably pay a premium for it. These sedans in manual really are a pain to find.

Sounds like a very nice daily.
You'll need to start talking to him and relay your interest while working on that price.

2k over KBB is never good because unless a car is completely bottomed out (like 5k miata's, or 10k corvette's), it will never again be worth what KBB has it listed at, and you're starting 2k higher than that.

Another tip: for the most part, ONLY old school bmw's ever retain value or go up. Newer models like the one you want are going to keep dropping for a while still, they're not collector cars or uber rare enthusiast cars. So work on that price. Esp since you'd have to do some serious traveling to get it

Schuyler 06-27-2016 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1341433)
Sounds like a very nice daily.
You'll need to start talking to him and relay your interest while working on that price.

2k over KBB is never good because unless a car is completely bottomed out (like 5k miata's, or 10k corvette's), it will never again be worth what KBB has it listed at, and you're starting 2k higher than that.

Another tip: for the most part, ONLY old school bmw's ever retain value or go up. Newer models like the one you want are going to keep dropping for a while still, they're not collector cars or uber rare enthusiast cars. So work on that price. Esp since you'd have to do some serious traveling to get it

I think I'm going to offer kbb private party Excellent, and that's the price. I've got a good argument to go down to that, but not much further. He's a real estate agent, so I'm not really looking to get in a haggle battle lol.

That would put the car at 15,360. Add 120 for an inspection, and 862 to have it brought to me.

I'm not really sure how much these are going to depreciate. Certainly less than a 328, but I'm sure still somewhat substantially in the next five years. It is a used BMW after all, so I'd say at least probably five grand.

thumpetto007 06-27-2016 08:14 PM

Holy shit that's freaking cheap. the car price and shipping price!

18psi 06-27-2016 08:20 PM

you'll lose money, but you'll also get to enjoy a really nice car, and there's nothing wrong with that.
it already took it's biggest hit already too, so its not that bad.

Stealth97 06-27-2016 10:35 PM

Shit, now I'm kicking myself for passing on the one I was looking at for $14k. 6 speed too. Had no Idea they were rare.

Schuyler 06-29-2016 09:12 PM

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Delivery date TBD, but she's mine.

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turbofan 06-29-2016 09:23 PM

congrats man, car looks phenomenal.

thumpetto007 07-02-2016 11:24 PM

Super clean!

Nice car!

18psi 07-03-2016 12:47 AM

very clean and sexy

Schuyler 07-03-2016 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1342471)
congrats man, car looks phenomenal.


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1343225)
Super clean!

Nice car!


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1343240)
very clean and sexy

Thanks! I'm pretty stoked for it to get here.

Schuyler 07-15-2016 06:30 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6df0c8e5f1.png

:party:

albumleaf 07-18-2016 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Schuyler (Post 1346649)

Have you ever dealt with vehicle shippers? You're doing great if you get it the same week they say it'll get delivered.

Schuyler 07-18-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 1347125)
Have you ever dealt with vehicle shippers? You're doing great if you get it the same week they say it'll get delivered.

We'll see. They still claim it'll be here tomorrow. I'm expecting it to be here Wednesday night.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ddd4b69d6.jpeg

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Schuyler 07-24-2016 12:52 PM

Day #4 of BMW ownership: The serpentine belt has snapped.

aidandj 07-24-2016 12:53 PM

Classic


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