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thirdgen 03-08-2010 01:50 AM

Rate this possible new beater for me
 
So I found a 1983 vw jetta 5 speed DIESEL. It runs great, needs some minor body work and a control arm bushing to pass inspection, but think it's worth $500? I want to use it just to drive back and forth to work. How much of a slow POS will this thing be? What kind of MPGs should I expect for all around driving? Anybody have experience with vw early 80's diesels?

Bond 03-08-2010 02:01 AM

I think someone in the TX crew (johnwag maybe) has one that has like 300k on it and still going strong.

the_man 03-08-2010 07:45 AM

If it's non-turbo, it will be piss slow. That's OK, though. If it runs and can be made roadworthy for under a grand (sounds like that won't be a challenge) it's a fantastic deal. Go buy it. Now. Then bring it to spring dyno day.

jbresee 03-08-2010 07:47 AM

I've got to say hell yes....

The VW turbo is fun, the non-turbo is slow but not unpleasant to drive as a beater.

miata2fast 03-08-2010 07:50 AM

I had a diesel rabbit, and yes it was slow, but the novelty of the old diesel was pretty cool. I liked the puttering sound it made. Great mileage.

hustler 03-08-2010 09:32 AM

Old ass vw's like that are fairly reliable and it will get 50mpg...slowly of course.

webby459 03-08-2010 09:46 AM

I loved my old A1s, I had 4. Even when beat they are reliable. I drove from VA Beach to Upstate NY in my A1 with 5th gear rattling around in the transaxle. It was howling by Jersey, but it got me home.

The problem areas were everything surrounding the drivetrain. One car had a habit of dropping the driver's window off the track and into the door, many times with the expected result of shattered glass. All of them went through at least 2-3 alternators each. They were always very fun cars, someone should replicate them today, at least in terms of lightness.

Zaphod 03-08-2010 10:00 AM

Too slow - you're gonna hate it.

thirdgen 03-08-2010 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by the_man (Post 534485)
If it's non-turbo, it will be piss slow. That's OK, though. If it runs and can be made roadworthy for under a grand (sounds like that won't be a challenge) it's a fantastic deal. Go buy it. Now. Then bring it to spring dyno day.

It'll be the diesel jetta vs your Saturn. I wonder what the 1983 non turbo diesel will throw down? I'm thinking if it makes 70 hp I'd be suprised. Time to google search!

thirdgen 03-08-2010 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Zaphod (Post 534536)
Too slow - you're gonna hate it.

Your probably right, but as a work commuter car only, I don't need speed. Everytime I buy a beater car I spray paint it somehow. My vw scirocco was light blue and I painted white racing stripes on it. I had a burgandy ish dodge shadow once and I painted it the starsky and hutch look, but I used the only can of paint I had, "bumper chrome". 1983 vw jetta diesel rattle can color? I have it planned right now...leaves+masking tape+tan and green spray cans= real tree camo. See the whole concept of me buying a beater is that I will be the last owner of the car, cause it either gets wrecked real bad, or I drive it till the wheels fall off, then I put new wheels on it, and drive it somemore till it breaks in a way that I don't want to fix it anymore.

miataspeed2005 03-08-2010 04:22 PM

My friend has one that he drives back and forth to work, he fills the tank once a month. IIRC he said he gets around 50mpg. Get it, it will pay for it self in no time.

chicksdigmiatas 03-08-2010 11:03 PM

Get it, My dad had one, and i loved it. It had 312k and was still going strong. Plus, i love the way under the hood of diesels smells.

the_man 03-09-2010 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 534540)
It'll be the diesel jetta vs your Saturn. I wonder what the 1983 non turbo diesel will throw down? I'm thinking if it makes 70 hp I'd be suprised. Time to google search!

I could bring out the 190D (non-turbo). Or just for fun I could bring out my diesel 1-ton.

gospeed81 03-09-2010 09:12 AM

When my car was down for 4 weeks I was looking at a lot of econoboxes, and eventually got down to a nice $1400 Metro.

I would have much rather had one of these.

dgmorr 03-09-2010 09:16 AM

I have a '95 Jetta Diesel beater and it's slow, very slow. I set my WG to 20psi and turned up the fueling as far as I could and it's still slow. I have never changed the oil and I'm waiting for a catastrophic failure so that I can get a new car, but the thing keeps going.

teeter totter. I think that was Hustler wearing the tights.

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/...00221i_20.jpeg

thirdgen 03-09-2010 09:48 AM

Your wastegate? This one doesn't even have a wastegate, because it's non turbo.

dgmorr 03-09-2010 10:02 AM

Ah yeah, forgot about that. I'm not really into VW. I got this as part of a trade that I wasn't able to resell.

Sparetire 03-09-2010 12:40 PM

Best beaters ever. Get it.

Turboing it would be stupid cheap too if you ever want to cause a fun catastrophic failure in the trans. IIRC the exhaust flange on the head will accomodate a later model TDI mani. The fun of diesel is that the more air you put to it, the cooler/safer it runs, and no ignition to worry about which means 'knock' is not realy an issue unless you do something incredibly stupid with your fuel timing.


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