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rmcelwee 12-25-2007 07:16 PM

Ricer puts me in my place!
 
A ricer just called me out of the closet. I feel so violated:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=262112

Dow.tom 12-25-2007 07:31 PM

god damn...

chuckerants 12-25-2007 07:34 PM

You shouldn't have bothered. He obviously knows what he's doing. lol

rmcelwee 12-25-2007 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by chuckerants (Post 189595)
You shouldn't have bothered. He obviously knows what he's doing. lol

I was only trying to help. I hate seeing someone looking for performance in large plug wires, big exhaust, spoilers, and intake modifications.

I took a rare drive in my car the other day. I was going to the computer store and decided to put my camcorder on the rollbar and shoot some footage. When I got to the store one of the guys working there saw my camera and asked what I was doing. I started talking to him about racing and stuff and he said he wanted to race me the next time I went to the track. I said I sucked and threw out a time of 9.0 for the 1/8 mile. He said he could hang with me. After a while I left the store and asked him if he wanted to see the car. He followed me out and I showed him around (turbo, WI, lightness). He said "wanna see my car"? I followed him over to a Honda that had the biggest exhaust I have ever seen in person. He popped the hood and showed me his $30 Autozone intake and said JDM when pointing to his engine. I just don't get it. Does he think his "stock" Honda can hang with a 1900 pound 220HP Miata? Do these guys have brain damage or some sort of a genetic defect?

Dow.tom 12-25-2007 07:59 PM

brain damage...

cjernigan 12-25-2007 08:04 PM

Lust for VTak kills brain cells.

LOLA - 92 12-25-2007 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 189598)
I was only trying to help. I hate seeing someone looking for performance in large plug wires, big exhaust, spoilers, and intake modifications.

I took a rare drive in my car the other day. I was going to the computer store and decided to put my camcorder on the rollbar and shoot some footage. When I got to the store one of the guys working there saw my camera and asked what I was doing. I started talking to him about racing and stuff and he said he wanted to race me the next time I went to the track. I said I sucked and threw out a time of 9.0 for the 1/8 mile. He said he could hang with me. After a while I left the store and asked him if he wanted to see the car. He followed me out and I showed him around (turbo, WI, lightness). He said "wanna see my car"? I followed him over to a Honda that had the biggest exhaust I have ever seen in person. He popped the hood and showed me his $30 Autozone intake and said JDM when pointing to his engine. I just don't get it. Does he think his "stock" Honda can hang with a 1900 pound 220HP Miata? Do these guys have brain damage or some sort of a genetic defect?

You're just afraid to race a guy with "BIG" exhaust and "JDM" on his windshield :bigtu: "PUSSY" :eek:

rmcelwee 12-25-2007 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by LOLA - 92 (Post 189607)
You're just afraid to race a guy with "BIG" exhaust and "JDM" on his windshield :bigtu: "PUSSY" :eek:


My first excuse to use my lolcat!

http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/c...6842896250.jpg

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 12-25-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 189598)
I was only trying to help. I hate seeing someone looking for performance in large plug wires, big exhaust, spoilers, and intake modifications.

I took a rare drive in my car the other day. I was going to the computer store and decided to put my camcorder on the rollbar and shoot some footage. When I got to the store one of the guys working there saw my camera and asked what I was doing. I started talking to him about racing and stuff and he said he wanted to race me the next time I went to the track. I said I sucked and threw out a time of 9.0 for the 1/8 mile. He said he could hang with me. After a while I left the store and asked him if he wanted to see the car. He followed me out and I showed him around (turbo, WI, lightness). He said "wanna see my car"? I followed him over to a Honda that had the biggest exhaust I have ever seen in person. He popped the hood and showed me his $30 Autozone intake and said JDM when pointing to his engine. I just don't get it. Does he think his "stock" Honda can hang with a 1900 pound 220HP Miata? Do these guys have brain damage or some sort of a genetic defect?

do you know anything about honda? are you sure its a single cam stock? because there is a non turbo b20 v-tec swap in a civic hatch here that none of my turbo miata friends here can even catch....yeah he's got a homemade intake and big loud ass exhaust....honda can be pretty damn quick without a turbo..or nos...the miata (HERE) aint slow either....faster then you...just race him if your not a pussy hehehe... thats the only way to find out...

chuckerants 12-25-2007 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 189598)
I was only trying to help. I hate seeing someone looking for performance in large plug wires, big exhaust, spoilers, and intake modifications.

I hate to see people waster their money on stupid shit too, after a while though , you just realize you can't cure stupid.

mazda/nissan 12-26-2007 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by Dow.tom (Post 189602)
brain damage...

according to bill cosby all kids have brain damage

Trent 12-26-2007 12:41 AM

I commented in the thread. I don't think it's possible to spell it out any clearer. :)

thebeerbaron 12-26-2007 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 189612)
My first excuse to use my lolcat!

Seriously funny, thanks for the laugh!

kotomile 12-27-2007 08:59 PM

lol @ "ricer nerve"

dc2696 12-27-2007 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Eunos_roadsterna6ce (Post 189640)
do you know anything about honda? are you sure its a single cam stock? because there is a non turbo b20 v-tec swap in a civic hatch here that none of my turbo miata friends here can even catch....yeah he's got a homemade intake and big loud ass exhaust....honda can be pretty damn quick without a turbo..or nos...the miata (HERE) aint slow either....faster then you...just race him if your not a pussy hehehe... thats the only way to find out...

b20 vtec so an ls/vtec engine? Cuz ls/vtec's and ls/vtec low boost eg/ek's are still nothing to my 11psi miata. No stock honda product other than the nsx and (k series swaps) are hanging in a drag race.

samnavy 12-27-2007 10:28 PM

Teeth= Porsche pwnage
http://www.lightweightmiata.com/mainpage01.jpg

Pitlab77 12-27-2007 11:48 PM

maybe he can use this
http://www.titantalk.com/forums/atta...icer-gauge.jpg

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 12-28-2007 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by dc2696 (Post 190561)
b20 vtec so an ls/vtec engine? Cuz ls/vtec's and ls/vtec low boost eg/ek's are still nothing to my 11psi miata. No stock honda product other than the nsx and (k series swaps) are hanging in a drag race.

Tust me...he will smoke you! b20 is the 2.0 crv motor.with type r vetec head...its not no ls vtec....i know miatas are fast...but hondas are fast too...:)

elesjuan 12-28-2007 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 189598)
Do these guys have brain damage or some sort of a genetic defect?



Hit the nail square on the head there Son. Kids these days have worse than brain damage. I'm with you, I don't get it. Almost every vehicle I've ever owned has been a 4 or 6 cylinder, well had a 5 cylinder benz once too... I understand performance, I enjoy building engines, and get a kick out of working on almost anything. When it comes to hondas, or toyotas, whatever their poison.. Just doesn't make sense to me.

My best friend and I have totally busted our ass's building up his 1994 miata. With something like 210k miles on it with an M45, non intercooled, 8psi pulley, bandaidftw fuel and spark control, stock clutch, ebay header, FM cat, 2" borla catback. Dynoed 160rwhp! Total project investment minus catback which came on the car along with the car itself is something like $550.00. Some kid in his "girlfriends" CRX wanted to run us, thing was smoking black like hell so I figured it'd either be an easy kill or it'd blow us away -- Both have happened before. To my surprise, from the launch the Miata got the win because the CRX was too busy spinning his 160mm front tires through three gears. When he finally got traction the two cars were dead even. From a roll, dead even. I gave them massive props because I thought it was cool to see. B18 GSR engine, header, retched sounding exhaust. They seemed equally impressed about the performance of the Miata and was quite surprised.

We shook hands and went our separate ways after talking for several hours about future plans. Few weeks later I see one of the kids coming up to talk to me.. Claims he heard "my boy" is running around saying hes running 12s at heartland park. I called him on my phone and he laughed, "No my car runs 14s." Then the kid starts claiming that this "stock motored CRX put 2 cars on him, blah blah blah." Needless to say this escalated into a fist fight that he lost and ended up in jail over. This was the weekend I first got my 95 up and running again, and he comes over talking shit totally unprovoked by anyone but his own shrill little ego over basically losing against a miata with basically less financial investment than his precious engine that he probably stole from someone anyway.

That story seems maybe offtopic, but I'm just posting an example of the brain damaged or possible defective mental state of young people and their Hoooooooooundas. Personally this is how I look at it.. Your crx might have beat us, and you might've done that with blah blah blah.. But In the end, I'm sorry to say you've still got a rusted, broke ass piece of shit thats good for only one thing now. :td: Sounds like a lose lose situation to me?

Maybe I'm a little out of line with my assumptions, observations and opinions with this matter but I know for a fact that I'm not the only one tired of this shit. An economy car + APC + worst designed and sounding exhaust system ever ! fucking = performance vehicle... ESPECIALLY IN FWD configuration! Does anyone here know what FWD was designed for??? ECONOMY!

[/Rant]

Sorry, sometimes I get carried away.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 12-28-2007 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 190609)
Hit the nail square on the head there Son. Kids these days have worse than brain damage. I'm with you, I don't get it. Almost every vehicle I've ever owned has been a 4 or 6 cylinder, well had a 5 cylinder benz once too... I understand performance, I enjoy building engines, and get a kick out of working on almost anything. When it comes to hondas, or toyotas, whatever their poison.. Just doesn't make sense to me.

My best friend and I have totally busted our ass's building up his 1994 miata. With something like 210k miles on it with an M45, non intercooled, 8psi pulley, bandaidftw fuel and spark control, stock clutch, ebay header, FM cat, 2" borla catback. Dynoed 160rwhp! Total project investment minus catback which came on the car along with the car itself is something like $550.00. Some kid in his "girlfriends" CRX wanted to run us, thing was smoking black like hell so I figured it'd either be an easy kill or it'd blow us away -- Both have happened before. To my surprise, from the launch the Miata got the win because the CRX was too busy spinning his 160mm front tires through three gears. When he finally got traction the two cars were dead even. From a roll, dead even. I gave them massive props because I thought it was cool to see. B18 GSR engine, header, retched sounding exhaust. They seemed equally impressed about the performance of the Miata and was quite surprised.

We shook hands and went our separate ways after talking for several hours about future plans. Few weeks later I see one of the kids coming up to talk to me.. Claims he heard "my boy" is running around saying hes running 12s at heartland park. I called him on my phone and he laughed, "No my car runs 14s." Then the kid starts claiming that this "stock motored CRX put 2 cars on him, blah blah blah." Needless to say this escalated into a fist fight that he lost and ended up in jail over. This was the weekend I first got my 95 up and running again, and he comes over talking shit totally unprovoked by anyone but his own shrill little ego over basically losing against a miata with basically less financial investment than his precious engine that he probably stole from someone anyway.

That story seems maybe offtopic, but I'm just posting an example of the brain damaged or possible defective mental state of young people and their Hoooooooooundas. Personally this is how I look at it.. Your crx might have beat us, and you might've done that with blah blah blah.. But In the end, I'm sorry to say you've still got a rusted, broke ass piece of shit thats good for only one thing now. :td: Sounds like a lose lose situation to me?

Maybe I'm a little out of line with my assumptions, observations and opinions with this matter but I know for a fact that I'm not the only one tired of this shit. An economy car + APC + worst designed and sounding exhaust system ever ! fucking = performance vehicle... ESPECIALLY IN FWD configuration! Does anyone here know what FWD was designed for??? ECONOMY!

[/Rant]

Sorry, sometimes I get carried away.

LOL you really took some time...YOU WIN 1,000,000, 000 DOLLARS!!! hehehe...nice post...hehehe

Miazda318 12-28-2007 01:41 AM

ricers are funny...i like the ones that show up at meets with loudass stereos and pop there hoods and have the nastiest engine bay with neon blue wire covers...and have sideways license plates and lambo doors...if u notice lambos dont even have lambo doors anymore...lol ricers...

elesjuan 12-28-2007 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by Eunos_roadsterna6ce (Post 190613)
LOL you really took some time...YOU WIN 1,000,000, 000 DOLLARS!!! hehehe...nice post...hehehe

Oh hell yeah! Think of all the neons, wings, and body kitz I could buy with all that!!!! :eek5:

Yeah sorry.. when I get to ranting look out. lol.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 12-28-2007 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 190617)
Oh hell yeah! Think of all the neons, wings, and body kitz I could buy with all that!!!! :eek5:

Yeah sorry.. when I get to ranting look out. lol.

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>.............OMG!!! i didn't think you'll come back like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elesjuan 12-28-2007 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by Eunos_roadsterna6ce (Post 190619)
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>.............OMG!!! i didn't think you'll come back like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I could get some naaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwz too! Then I'll setup my honda for drift y0!

Newbsauce 12-28-2007 09:59 AM

Wow I got served:
"
Originally Posted by slyvainknight
One: It's not even close to a stock engine. It has a ported and polished head, performance valves from flyin miata, an 8 lb flywheel and clutch combo, 2.5" exhaust all the way back, k&n intake, 8.5 mm msd wires, rebuilt injectors, custom mega squirt full stand alone ecu, and the timing is bumped up to 14 degrees to name a few things.

Two: I never buy stuff of ebay, I am building a turbo kit right now using a T28 that is being rebuilt and bored out and a cast iron manifold from flyin miata.

Three: I didn't think I would do anything but it really does. Once you get to about 60 the back end just sticks, I change lanes on the highway with no body roll, I guarantee that after 60 (if not before) I would out handle your mx5

rmcelwee 12-28-2007 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 190675)
Wow I got served:
"

You must have missed that he not only has a full MS ecu but he ALSO bumped his timing to 14. I don't think this kid even knows what he is talking about...

Newbsauce 12-28-2007 10:46 AM

I'm wondering more specifically how his wing suddenly allows him to outhandle me lol. Well I guess if he adds a "bored out" turbo i'm screwed :(

The_Pipefather 12-28-2007 11:11 AM

Notice that not once did he call the car a Miata. IMHO, the only US-based people who do that, are ricers of the type most commonly found on CR.net.

SloS13 12-28-2007 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by dc2696 (Post 190561)
b20 vtec so an ls/vtec engine? Cuz ls/vtec's and ls/vtec low boost eg/ek's are still nothing to my 11psi miata. No stock honda product other than the nsx and (k series swaps) are hanging in a drag race.

wait.....what? I bet an LSVTEC running a big holset at 8psi will hand you your ass on a platter with a cherry on top.

Splitime 12-28-2007 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 190685)
wait.....what? I bet an LSVTEC running a big holset at 8psi will hand you your ass on a platter with a cherry on top.

Wouldn't need a big holset ... some of the ignorance out here/there is amusing. (not pointed at you Slo, I've almost had a few holsets in my hands to use on my beater/turbo civic)

Stealth97 12-28-2007 11:37 AM

I hope he takes my tuning advice.

dc2696 12-28-2007 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 190685)
wait.....what? I bet an LSVTEC running a big holset at 8psi will hand you your ass on a platter with a cherry on top.

The crvtech on a t3/t4 at 5psi in an eg ran 13.9 at the track and lost to me..

And ya a big ass holset ls/vtec at 8psi would likely be close to 300hp but stock ls/vtecs arent shit and if it was anything like the crvtech setup I dont think he would hand me my ass at all, like I said low boost (I guess I should have been more specific about low boost, and added not low boost on a huge turbo lol) but w/evs I have respect for turbo hondas but they arent the holy grail.

Splitime 12-28-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by dc2696 (Post 190704)
The crvtech on a t3/t4 at 5psi in an eg ran 13.9 at the track and lost to me..

And ya a big ass holset ls/vtec at 8psi would likely be close to 300hp but stock ls/vtecs arent shit and if it was anything like the crvtech setup I dont think he would hand me my ass at all, like I said low boost (I guess I should have been more specific about low boost, and added not low boost on a huge turbo lol) but w/evs I have respect for turbo hondas but they arent the holy grail.

You probably ran against someone who claimed a b20vtec with an ebay turbo kit and/or didn't know how to drive worth a damn. I run mid 13s on 185 all seasons with my 1.6l turbo civic, with aweful runs...

Hondas aren't the holy grail, but the motors are amazing considering their cost/performance ratio (when u aren't buying namebrand junk). Fuel sippers to big HP (consider the size, don't do any lsx quoting :p) builds, they are quite impressive motors.

As much fun as I plan to have with my miata, I wish the head flowed better and didn't have a crappyish oil pump gearset, and etc... I'm still building the car up, so I'm not completely honda biased :p

dc2696 12-28-2007 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 190709)
You probably ran against someone who claimed a b20vtec with an ebay turbo kit and/or didn't know how to drive worth a damn. I run mid 13s on 185 all seasons with my 1.6l turbo civic, with aweful runs...

Hondas aren't the holy grail, but the motors are amazing considering their cost/performance ratio (when u aren't buying namebrand junk). Fuel sippers to big HP (consider the size, don't do any lsx quoting :p) builds, they are quite impressive motors.

As much fun as I plan to have with my miata, I wish the head flowed better and didn't have a crappyish oil pump gearset, and etc... I'm still building the car up, so I'm not completely honda biased :p

Nope bonified crvtech, not positive abou the turbo kit though, and I dont know if he has an lsd tranny, on slicks with an open diff a jdm b16 t3 at 10psi(dyno at 200whp at 7psi) crx was running 14 flat with a 102-04 mph and bad driving lol.

And owning a jdm b16 ek, I know exactly how you feel about the engine/ heads, my miata smokes the civic but I have a soft spot for vtech and the smile it gives me ;)

XxGoKoUxX 12-28-2007 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by dc2696 (Post 190561)
b20 vtec so an ls/vtec engine? Cuz ls/vtec's and ls/vtec low boost eg/ek's are still nothing to my 11psi miata. No stock honda product other than the nsx and (k series swaps) are hanging in a drag race.

B20's are generally CRV motors.... most people who do that swap usually do B16 head with B20 bottom block, considered a "poor man's" type R, because it really does make that kind of power, with a little more weight in the engine....

as for low boost... there have been some doing 300HP+ at the same setup on a honda.... i've seen an ls/vtec fully built do high 12's at the drag strip lol.... All motor too

SloS13 12-28-2007 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by dc2696 (Post 190717)
Nope bonified crvtech, not positive abou the turbo kit though, and I dont know if he has an lsd tranny, on slicks with an open diff a jdm b16 t3 at 10psi(dyno at 200whp at 7psi) crx was running 14 flat with a 102-04 mph and bad driving lol.

And owning a jdm b16 ek, I know exactly how you feel about the engine/ heads, my miata smokes the civic but I have a soft spot for vtech and the smile it gives me ;)

i dont know what's worse, a b16 making 200whp at 10psi or a crx with 200whp running 14.0's at 104.

I've had 3 boosted hondas and helped turbocharge a bunch more of my friends and they're nothing to scoff at. My last turbo hatch was ~200whp and got 38mpg in the city boosting everywhere. I'm happy when I get 22mpg in the city with the miata.

elesjuan 12-28-2007 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by dc2696 (Post 190717)
And owning a jdm b16 ek, I know exactly how you feel about the engine/ heads, my miata smokes the civic but I have a soft spot for vtech and the smile it gives me ;)


Wow. I have a soft spot for vtech too.

http://giftsofharvest.com/images/vtech-vt20-2431.jpg

They make great cordless phones. :rolleyes: :greddy2:

elesjuan 12-28-2007 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by slyvainknight
Ya? Mega squirt is not quite as good as the flyin miata ones or the aem ones, but it does allow the timing to be adjusted.
I'm totally speechless for the first time in my life.


So I should bump my timing up to 14 degrees? :confused:

rmcelwee 12-28-2007 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 190814)
I'm totally speechless for the first time in my life.


You are so PWNED!

http://www.lightweightmiata.com/misc/pwn3d400.jpg

mtncrvr 12-28-2007 08:19 PM

Got your vtech right here :-)
http://www.spanishtoys.com/MasProduc...nimalcar_1.jpg
All thats missing is the Honda sitcker and a wing :gtfo:

elesjuan 12-28-2007 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 190830)

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::owned:

Dude! You're the man!!! I haven't laughed that hard in fucking ages!!!!

cardriverx 12-29-2007 12:08 AM

eh, i put my post in haha.

elesjuan 12-29-2007 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by cardriverx (Post 190879)
eh, i put my post in haha.

Shut up you poopface! I'll hit you up side the face with my $400.00+ Farbin Ciber park bench! :crx:

Bryce 12-29-2007 12:47 AM

Oh great, I'm prolly gonna run into this guy when I go up there for autocross.

elesjuan 12-29-2007 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bryceness (Post 190888)
Oh great, I'm prolly gonna run into this guy when I go up there for autocross.

Me or Airplane boy?

cardriverx 12-29-2007 12:59 AM

so bets on how much longer the thread goes till a mod closes it?

Bryce 12-29-2007 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 190889)
Me or Airplane boy?

I'll kill you! Hahah I love the dead terrorist.


Just wondering, why would drive up to Kansas just to autocross?:confused:

I've gotta meet airplane boy, and pwn him at autocross now. I will also point out how my lack of a spoiler-errrr airplane wing gives me a lower center of gravity thus allowing me to turn harder!

em99sport 12-29-2007 01:04 AM

I'm quickly learning to love the shit talk about m.net mods here. The Gord comments are particularly hilarious to me. Nice work, lads.

elesjuan 12-29-2007 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bryceness (Post 190893)
I'll kill you! Hahah I love the dead terrorist.


Just wondering, why would drive up to Kansas just to autocross?:confused:

I've gotta meet airplane boy, and pwn him at autocross now. I will also point out how my lack of a spoiler-errrr airplane wing gives me a lower center of gravity thus allowing me to turn harder!

Eh, our autox isn't that great. Better than Omaha. We use Arrowhead stadiums parking lot, which is absolutely freaking huge, but the cement isn't perfect. Works pretty good though. No reason, just calling his bullshizzle out. :bigtu:

SILENCE! I KILLLLLL YOOOOU!!!

Trent 12-29-2007 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 190830)

:bowdown: I LOL'd. HARD.

elesjuan 12-29-2007 06:59 PM

That asshole Mod screwed up my fun! :vash:

cardriverx 12-29-2007 07:34 PM

dousche!

Bryce 12-29-2007 08:05 PM

Bag!


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