Saab 9-2x
 

So I got rear ended on my bike and its most likely going to be totalled and with the state of my miata I want something reliable and a rebadged wrx would be awesome although my budget is going to be around 6k. From what I've seen its gonna be at or over 100k miles. I know a lot of guys here drive subies so I thought I'd get y'alls opinions on the reliability factor.

I'd love one, just hard to find.

you need double that to get anything worth a damn.
but otherwise they're fantastic cars.

I'm the resident subaru fanboi

12k for a 2005-2006 saabaru? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

you can do way better getting something else.

looks like that's about the going rate: http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchr...RM&enableSeo=1

considering that site only has 47 of them online at all, again makes me say: good luck.

What else can you get for 12k that has the "whole package" like a subaru?
I'm not saying there's nothing out there, or that its the best, just curious.

They're very hard to find. Why not just buy a subaru?

cause then you're "that guy"

I was recently DD shopping and spent a month looking all over the country for a good 92x at a reasonable price. Experienced the same problem with a 5 speed 4wd Honda Element and the 04-05 GLI Jetta. Finally got a GLI. IF you're not in a hurry, you can find one. I missed out on 2 nice 92-xs by a couple of days each. You have to look constantly and be willing to make a trip.

I've put on a little weight since that picture.
Also my partner and I upgraded to an 08.

More interior space for our scissoring

its funny because based on real subaru ads they are only for: dog lovers, hippys, and liberals

Why get a Saab 9-2x over a WRX Wagon?

How about cheaper insurance, that's a good reason.

Nicer interior? Also good.

Good luck finding something for $6k...most of the WRXs I see in that price range are 2002s and 2003s with lots of miles and are pretty beat. No way you're going to find a 5mt 2006 92x for anywhere near that much. I looked pretty hard for a few months and was unable to ever find a '06 MT. The '05s are a bit easier to come by, but again $6k isn't really enough...

They are for cat loving conservative homosexuals too.

What about dog-loving homosexual conservatives??? Yes, I know a couple of those, though I don't understand them.

Jinx.

Oh, I missed the $6k part! I was willing to spend $10k and had a tough time!

Haha! simul-post.:makeout:

for 6k you can get a honda civic.
or a very good weekend of hookers and blow.

not a decent subaru

You can however, get a decent Saab:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3017348263.html

If you want a Subaru, get a Subaru. If you want a Saab, get a Saab. Don't get the bastard child of the two.

What, you mean GM forcing the two to mate wasn't kosher? I like to think of it along the lines of GM was like the guy who invented a mule, only it came out more like a horse where a mule is more like a donkey.

+1 on the above wisdom, if you've only got 6k to spend, you'll need a miracle to find a nice Saabaru.

but no one wants a saab. they want a subaru with class.

Yeah, probably not a great suggestion, as they've been bastard childs since 1994, at least the 900 has. The 9000 became a bastard in 1998, I think. Ok, those were bastards as well, but mainly with European models.

The Saabaru just didn't even try to be anything but a Subaru.

in other bastard child news, mazda may be making arrangements to share the miata platform with alfa romeo. marinara on your udon?

http://jalopnik.com/5912579/the-next...-an-alfa-romeo

yeha but it looks better than the subaru wagon, which is why I like it. so you get the powerplant and drivetrain on a sleeker car with a better interior.

I love the saabaru. If I were going to have one car instead of two, that would be one of the three I would hunt down.

Not sure where you're getting better interior.
Unless I'm missing something, that too is a direct replica, with only the steering wheel airbag being a bit different.

Why? With the 9-2x you get all the goodness of a WRX Wagon with CHEAPER INSURANCE (as in 1/2 as much, because there aren't a bunch of stupid kids out there bashing up Saabarus). You also get a better looking car (IMO) and possibly better NVH.

When I was car shopping it was between a 9-2x and a Forester XT. I ended up with an XT just because it was easier to find than an '06 9-2x MT (I really wanted a car with the 2.5).

Saab vs . subaru

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337868942 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337868942

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337868942 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337868942

I know you can get the same knobs,leather,etc in the WRX, but i think it was a premimum or limted package or something. but it's very sutble difference like that. the wrx looks to use more cheap plastic where the saab used nicer looking material.

but yeah...i guess you're right, jsut odnt often see the wrx wagon in the limited package with all the standard bits the saab had. But I've reached the en dof my knowledge of the two...I've looked into the 92-x a bit, I'd like one myself, just so hard to find.

That's a TR interior which is only in the sedans. Not the wagons. ;)
TR= Tuner Ready which is a lower trim than "standard" which is "premium.
All wagons come with the "premium" interior with the nice looking knobs.
Kinda confusing but not really. But like I said: they're identical.

okay then, make sense since I've never been in a wagon, only the sedans.

I've read that the Saab's have more sound deadening and therefor better NVH in general, but haven't seen any actual data.

In my opinion, the diffirence in insurance rates between the Saab and the WRX Wagon justifies seriously considering the Saab. I probably sound like a broken record with the insurance thing...

This is why I love these cars.

I tuned this thing yesterday:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337874524

06 wrx
vf48
sti tmic
dw1100cc
3port
pnp manifolds
xpipe
pnp heads
tbe

at 20psi on e85.
Total invested in mods: $2,000.

Daily driver:)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337874787
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9.../Img_00247.jpg

I thought you had a FXT. I like this car better, it looks really good.

I still have the FXT.
This is a friends wagon.
My FXT is faster:giggle:

3800lbs!?!? I assume that's with two fat arses in the car?

You want to fly out to Ohio to do an E85 tune on my FXT? I just started tuning a stage 1 map on 93, E85 + big injectors + STI turbo would probably be outside of my tuning capability...

Yup, delta weight was like 450 or something. He's 225 and I'm 200 and full tank of gas.

And sure, fly me out:D

My buddie has a 07 wrx wagon, bolt ons and tune with stock turbo made 260whp, 350 ft lbs. Things badass, so much goddamn torque its the perfect DD. It rips too, pulled a 13.8 1/4 mile, not crazy fast by any means but its definitely quick for a mostly stock car with a tune.

For reference my miata on 10psi (190-200whp) has a slight steady chug on it, and maybe has 4-5 cars on it by 120mph.

the 06-07 wrx wagon has been on my list. as well as the 2011-12 wrx.

but im starting to lean towards the '12 MS3 and quite possibly the '13 Focus ST.

Where did he dyno it? Because stock td04 on pump will NEVER make 350wtq and 280whp. No offense. And the 13.8 time matches up with about 240/280 which is normal for a well tuned stage2 on pump gas.

Also, lolz omg awesome on that car making 300+ whp from 3000-7000 rpm.

How long will his trans last with that rush of 400 ft-lbs of torque? That's the one thing I worry about, transmission longevity.

I'll have to look up to see how expensive flights from Sacremento to Columbus are...probably similar to the price of a "pro" e-tune...

STI turbo, big injectors, etc. are further down the road. P.S. Where did you buy your GM 3-port from? I'm already maxing out the capability of the stock solenoid and I'm not making much more boost than stock.

11-12 is much quieter, comfy, and more luxury oriented. Also looks fantastic imo. but WAYYY more 'spensive.

I know nothing about Focus'

MS3 is AWESOME. Friend has one. basic bolt ons and tune he's at like 270/330....its jam-packed with tons of cool techy features, gets high 20's low 30's mpg......the ONLY downside that I know of is the Fail wheel drive.

his car impressed me. I was NOT expecting the numbers it made.
his trans will die soon. I told him that yesterday right after the dyno plot.
got all my 3ports from nazicock

My good friend has an '11 WRX hatch and it is a super nice car. I should have never driven it, because it makes my '04 FXT feel like an old, tired POS...

Are you worried about the trans in your car? If I remember correctly you have bigger turbo that doesn't have as big of a rush of torque, but also doesn't drop off like an STI turbo. My understanding is that it isn't torque that breaks the gears, it's the quick gobs of torque at 3000rpm that breaks gears.

Yeah, itll be my DD and I wont mod it at all, so I'd like to have the more refined car, but can still have fun.

FWD doesn't bother me too much, rather that than RWD if my wife might have to drive it from time to time. At least it has a torsen.

Focus ST is the same FWD with limited slip, but it's been designed to "feel" like a rwd car when driven hard.

both the ms3 and focus st are priced at 24K, the WRX is 25.5K -- where the extra cost is soley due to the AWD and the problem being, I'd be happy with a base ms3 or ST, but not a base WRX.

focus is supossed to be something like 25-30city and maybe 35-40hwy, which is kinda a bonus, plus all the cool VVT stuff and direct injection, ECO boost crap so i can actually run on 87 octane and its rated at 252 hp and 270 lb-ft.

The ST was one of the only cars I liked when I went to the auto show this year. Well just have to see what the used market is like come winter when I think I'll be getting something new.

the problem I'm having with the WRX hatch, is that for the same price you can get a much newer/low mileage MS3....so to save nearly 5K you gotta drop the AWD. dunno what ill do.

I'm not really worried to be honest. I ran RA gears in my 07 when I blew up the stocker, and they are identical to FXT gears. That car made 420. The 4.44 fd REALLY helps keep it together. I'm at 370/370 right now and daily drive it, no problems.

Although I do drive it very carefully, only launched it like 2 times, and pretty much baby it 90% of the time.

In 5th gear it started overpowering the clutch when I switched to e85. So that's on its way out :(

That is exactly, word for word, the reason why my friend got the MS3 over the Rex.
I think you'll be happy with your decision either way tho

I think I could deal with 350/350 for my daily...

Between the 4.44 fd, slightly smaller overall diameter wheel/tire + babying it hopefully I won't ever be changing a trans.

I'd like to go back to talking about Saabs please.

i make sure most threads are more steered towards me.

Hmm strange. I'll vouch for the dyno sheet because I saw it - but of course that doesn't mean ---- (as far as variance from dyno to dyno).

This guy tuned it, he's well known around here: http://camtuning.com

I believe its a dynojet dyno, and it was definately corrected for altitude (was dyno'd at 5500ft).

Anyways NOT 280, I said 260.. and even that was wrong apparently. Just talked to the guy and it was 250whp/345ftlb

No offense taken, either way :makeout:

And that's just his DD, the same guy tuned his "real" car. 03 wrx wagon, Built hybrid, 264 cams, Dominator 4.0, ppg gears, E85.

Ended up running a best of 11.30's at 125 or something before he blew his second (built) trans on it. Now it sits, lol.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337899434

I'd personally love an fxt but they are just way out of the price range. Seem to be the perfect daily though. Since I'm a broke college kid with not enough money for a subie I guess I'll just have to get a sportbike instead. :confused: