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zellers88 03-29-2018 09:39 PM

Security Camera Thread
 
Starting a new thread to not clutter up the Harbor Freight thread anymore. Post your system or any questions you might have.

zellers88 03-29-2018 09:48 PM

Just got started into this not too long ago. Bought a LaView systemthat included four cameras and an 8 channel POE NVR. Added a 4TB hard drive for storage, running continuous recording with motion triggers.

System is on an APC 1000VA UPS, which should be good for about 2 hours of power loss with current camera load. For extra network security (and because bored) I've taken my Raspberry Pi that is loaded with PiHole (network wide adblock) and added PiVPN to it which means to access the cameras remotely, VPN access is needed.

Also been experimenting with Hikvision cameras from AliExpress with great luck. Planning on adding two of these to the system as well as a smaller front door camera.

Current state of camera station below. Much needed wire routing happening soon.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...067eb97b21.jpg

Joker 03-30-2018 07:38 AM

I went with the complete wireless Arlo Pro. Really expensive, but totally worth it. I've got full control and access with my phone as well. Set-up and UI is simple and easy.

We take them down about once every 2 months to charge. Because they are attached with strong magnets, the process is easy.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...361bb8b6b5.png

Erat 03-30-2018 08:21 AM

Oh man. I have so much information to post i don't know where to start.
I recently installed a 30+ camera network system at work. It's beautiful. I will say, you get exactly what you pay for. I'm almost ready to change my home network to a POE system. The old BnC system is getting a bit outdated.

It's 2018 and this quality is not cutting it anymore.

olderguy 03-30-2018 08:52 AM

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Amcrest indoor cheap cameras mounted under the eves outside gives me full view around the house. Two of the cameras recording full time gives me a few days recall in the driveway and front door.

ETA: Phone app works well also.

y8s 03-30-2018 09:33 AM

REQ:

Cheap single wireless camera that can interop with OpenHAB. Night vision would be nice I guess.

Really just want something to light up the front yard, which is small.

olderguy 03-30-2018 09:55 AM

Don't know anything about OpenHAB, but these are the cameras I use up under the eves in all weather. Rain and snow can't hit them, but the extremes of temp have not affected them.


z31maniac 03-30-2018 09:57 AM

Definitely interested in this thread, some worthless fucking low life robbed my girlfriend in a Walmart parking lot in broad daylight during her lunch. "Big girl" our 60lb pitbull has been on patrol since I got home yesterday.

She said it was a couple of teenage assholes wearing hoodies, but you never know. Big girl isn't a fan of people she doesn't know.

Thankfully my girl is OK, her hand is a little banged up from her hand getting caught in the door of the truck that drove off as she was going after them.

zellers88 03-30-2018 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1474744)
REQ:

Cheap single wireless camera that can interop with OpenHAB. Night vision would be nice I guess.

Really just want something to light up the front yard, which is small.

Wireless as in battery powered or powered via outlet but uses wifi? I'm guessing that OpenHAB supports the ONVIF standard so likely any camera that supports ONVIF would work. I don't have a lot of experience with wireless though. The reliability of hardwired is hard to beat.

2slow 03-30-2018 11:11 AM

By the way - for indoor use:

https://www.wyzecam.com/product/wyze-cam-v2/

- $20 per cam
- 2 way audio
- night vision
- 2 week free cloud storage
- wireless
- takes micro sd
- alerts
- recognition of special sounds for alerts (smoke, co2 alerts)
- USB powered

In general, I like NVRs better for features and flexibility of the system,but they are usually much more expensive than BNC based ones. In general, for personal use stuff from Costco, Frys, NewEgg, AliExpress, Amazon is good enough if you take your time selecting one with better sensors, support and other important factors.

y8s 03-30-2018 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1474747)
Don't know anything about OpenHAB, but these are the cameras I use up under the eves in all weather. Rain and snow can't hit them, but the extremes of temp have not affected them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...oop_bw_c_x_1_w

Thanks. Reasonable. I'd probably have them in a covered area.

By Wireless I mean not having to run network cables. Power cables are OK.

I can even mount them inside glass in reasonable places too, but I'm not sure how the glass would affect the night vision capabilities (like emitters, etc)

olderguy 03-30-2018 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1474776)
Thanks. Reasonable. I'd probably have them in a covered area.

By Wireless I mean not having to run network cables. Power cables are OK.

I can even mount them inside glass in reasonable places too, but I'm not sure how the glass would affect the night vision capabilities (like emitters, etc)

I have two of them on WiFi and two cabled. The two cabled are quite a distance from the router. All require power.

calteg 03-31-2018 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1474738)
Amcrest indoor cheap cameras mounted under the eves outside gives me full view around the house. Two of the cameras recording full time gives me a few days recall in the driveway and front door.

ETA: Phone app works well also.

I have a lower end Amcrest as well. They are cheap and functional, but the resolution is pretty terrible, not sure I'd be able to identify anyone if it ever came to that. I know the HikVision cameras are supposed to be good value for the money, but you still get what you pay for.

olderguy 03-31-2018 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by calteg (Post 1474902)
I have a lower end Amcrest as well. They are cheap and functional, but the resolution is pretty terrible, not sure I'd be able to identify anyone if it ever came to that. I know the HikVision cameras are supposed to be good value for the money, but you still get what you pay for.

I've found that their IP3M-943 (outside bullet) are horrible on resolution and come nowhere near the IP2M-841(Cheap Indoor with all the bells and whistles). No problem identifying people and reading license plates in the driveway.

zellers88 04-08-2018 08:14 AM

Playing around with some different cameras in one location for comparison, mainly for night vision. First is this cheap Hikvision 4MP dome camera. Second is the LaView LV-PB932F4 2MP camera that came with the surveillance system. Third is from this "Ultra Low Light" Hikvision 3MP turret camera.



https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3c607f5b04.png
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olderguy 04-08-2018 08:40 AM

How far is the camera from the gate(that needs some TLC)?

zellers88 04-08-2018 08:54 AM

A little over 15 feet away. I think the LaView camera would be a lot better if the IR had as much spread as the turret does, but the turret would still outperform it.

Also the gate is on our to-do list once it stops snowing around here. Instead of fixing it, the PO just put a latch on the outside...

shuiend 04-09-2018 09:22 AM

For everyone who uses these cheap chinese camera's, just make sure they are on an isolated network with zero internet access. Otherwise know that people in China will have access to your camera's.

zellers88 04-09-2018 10:18 AM

That's good advice for all camera systems, not many if any at all cheapish consumer ones are made in the US.

Either don't connect it to Internet at all, make it's own isolated VLAN, or block the IPs from internet on your router and use a VPN to look at them remotely.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-09-2018 11:46 AM

Unless youre pretty network savvy and are planning on building your own NVR, the best bang for the buck is the new "HD" analog equipment that goes over coax. These new analog systems (HD-TVI, HD-CVI, AHD, etc.) use more scan lines than the old NTSC stuff that we grew up with. The cameras and DVRs are inexpensive and the video quality is pretty damn decent, just as good as cheap IP cameras IMHO. Emphasis on the word "cheap" in the previous sentence. There are many IP cameras that are on a different level because of 1080p+ resolution but the cheap cameras are limited by cheap optics. They are also able to transmit the serial PTZ control over the coax as, so if you need PTZ control you can still have that without running extra wire.


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