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Joe Perez 07-08-2012 02:14 AM

Shrödinger's Cat Toy
 
So, as I understand it, the thing about collectables is that you can't actually open the packaging to read the comic or play with the toy or whatever, because if you did that then they are no longer in mint condition and therefore not collectable. And these collectables, particularly toys such as action figures include special variants that are basically the regular version with a minor cosmetic difference such as a slightly different paint job, to artificially create a much rarer collectable at minimal extra cost.

For this market I have now created the ultimate collectible: Shrödinger's Cat Toy.

For those that are unaware, Schrödinger's cat is a seemingly paradoxical theoretical experiment devised by Erwin Schrödinger. The experiment proposes that a cat be placed in a sealed box. Within the box is a device that will kill the cat (such as a canister of poison gas) which is attached to a trigger that will operate randomly with a 50% chance of going off in the space of one hour. According to quantum theory, at the end of one hour the cat is both alive and dead until the box is opened and the result observed. Thus the observer becomes an integral part of the experiment.

The simplicity of the Cat Toy lies in its collectability. Ninety nine out of one hundred Shroedinger's Cat Toy boxes are empty. Only the hundredth contains the actual toy. But the packaging is constructed so that it is impossible to tell the difference between the one containing the actual toy and one without, as they are exactly the same in size and weight. The packaging is also tamper-resistant, constructed so that the only way to open the box to find out whether it contains the toy will destroy the packaging beyond repair.

Thus, it is impossible to ever know whether you have the ultra-rare genuine Cat Toy or not without opening the box. If you open the box, then it is no longer in collectable condition, and therefore worthless regardless of whether it contains the toy or not. And so according to Schrödinger's theory this therefore means that every box simultaneously contains the toy and doesn't contain the toy.

It's a quantum collectable. It'll drive collectors insane.

pusha 07-08-2012 02:50 AM

you really need to get laid

Jeff_Ciesielski 07-08-2012 02:51 AM

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Joe Perez 07-08-2012 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 900491)
you really need to get laid

You never return my calls anymore.

y8s 07-08-2012 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 900494)

Originally Posted by pusha (Post 900491)
you really need to get laid

You never return my calls anymore.

THIS ^ breaks the laws of physics as it is theoretically impossible to prevent pusha from obtaining the phone number of every miataturbo user as time approaches infinity.

kotomile 07-08-2012 11:14 AM

Shouldn't every other box contain the toy, rather than 1%?

Saml01 07-08-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 900530)
Shouldn't every other box contain the toy, rather than 1%?

You can't know. If Schrodinger had 100 boxes following the same setup it doesn't necessarily mean 50 will be dead and 50 will be alive.

What does matter is that no one can know which box has the toy.

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skidude 07-09-2012 09:08 AM

Sounds like a fun collectable.

Scrappy Jack 07-09-2012 09:28 AM

Wouldn't they all be dead cats within roughly 2 weeks of assembly?

Oscar 07-09-2012 09:51 AM

Maybe, but how would one know?

18psi 07-09-2012 10:12 AM

Joes threads just keep getting weirder:giggle:

Handy Man 07-09-2012 10:23 AM

This is awesome. I'd buy one.

Ben 07-09-2012 10:34 AM

If only Joe would just put his mind towards something productive (instead of Miatas and cats), then we might have time travel by now.

y8s 07-09-2012 11:02 AM

thread solution:

if your chances are 1 in 100 of getting the actual cat toy, then I suggest you buy at least 100, preferably 500 so that you increase your chances of getting at least one with the toy in it. then you keep all of them together and profit off the probability increasing that you have at least one.

Braineack 07-09-2012 11:24 AM

I took a dowel from y8s basement and tied a string to it. it's my cat's favorite toy.

Joe Perez 07-09-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 900840)
Wouldn't they all be dead cats within roughly 2 weeks of assembly?

No, no. The box does not contain a cat, it contains a cat toy. A toy for a cat. ie: a rubber mouse that squeaks when you squeeze it.



Originally Posted by Ben (Post 900884)
If only Joe would just put his mind towards something productive (instead of Miatas and cats), then we might have time travel by now.

Ha.

Honestly, I'm not that smart. I just write a lot of words and occasionally touch things with a soldering iron.

Braineack 07-09-2012 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 900929)
...occasionally touch things with a soldering iron.

This is why you cant teach you childern code words for your private parts. If the judge asks you where Joe Perez touched you and you say "my soldering iron," it simply wont hold up in court.

pusha 07-09-2012 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 900929)
...occasionally touch things with a soldering iron.

you've gotten flux on your genitals, don't lie

Braineack 07-09-2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 900932)
you've gotten flux on your genitals, don't lie


the great thing is, it cools off before it hits them and the beads just bounce off onto the floor.

pusha 07-09-2012 12:00 PM

gross bro

Splitime 07-09-2012 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 900934)
the great thing is, it cools off before it hits them and the beads just bounce off onto the floor.

What type of panzy soldering temperatures are you using. I always end up with cool molten solder splashes on the floor or singe marks on pants/socks/skin.

Burn it to the ground!

samnavy 07-09-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 900929)
No, no. The box does not contain a cat, it contains a cat toy. A toy for a cat. ie: a rubber mouse that squeaks when you squeeze it.

NO NO NO NO NO!
The box has to have a 1/100 chance to contain an actual alive and dead cat, that's the enticement to open the box. Cats can do just fine for at least a week or two in a box as long as it can breathe (at least in a closet, ask me how I know).

So your business must be mail-order only, signature delivery, and overnight shipping only to real address (not PO Box) to appease the tree-huggers. Then you put a 10 day warranty on mechanical defects of the possible cat inside to cover you legally. This way, the collector has about a week to decide.

To add to the value and make the politicians happy, you put an auto-open function on the box that automatically opens the box at a preset time from date of packaging at the factory... that way, the box becomes more valuable as the timer counts down. Your local ASPCA will have a machine that can defeat the auto-open feature for a $1k donation rendering the box permanently sealed forever.

If you want to get creative, offer a "Special-Special Limited Anniversary Edition" of only white kittens offered once a year to during Valentines Day, and an "Undead Zombie Attack" edition that may contain a feline-rabies infected adult male Bengal hybrid... for Halloween of course.

And you know how serious collector types are all closet weirdo's with social adjustment issues and actually subscribe to pay-porn websites instead of just using PornHub or Redtube like the rest of us... so... you need to offer "Pregnant Cat", "Hairless Cat", "Declawed Cat", and "Tattoo'd Cat" versions of you collectible box. All still 1/100 chance.

Braineack 07-09-2012 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 900952)
What type of panzy soldering temperatures are you using. I always end up with cool molten solder splashes on the floor or singe marks on pants/socks/skin.

Burn it to the ground!


60/40. what sort of freaking voltage/temperature are you using?!

Cosworth16v 07-09-2012 01:57 PM

Hah, kickstarter.

TorqueZombie 07-09-2012 03:38 PM

So what keeps me from X-raying the box to see if it has the toy? I'd buy a dozen and xray them all and see if I had a winner. Than sell the none winners at 90%market cost and then sell the garrunteed one at 1000% cost and win. Then go rent a tranny for a week.

Saml01 07-09-2012 03:43 PM

Lead box.

TorqueZombie 07-09-2012 03:55 PM

Touche' I thought of that after I sent it. Heavy though.My other question is about collectibles. If being rare makes it collectible and more rare the better. Why can't I make something crafty here at home and then sell it as collectible. Some of these people will buy anything that says "collectible" on the box. Also it seems every collector is never going to open anything, so now the "it's new in the box" becomes a mute point.

Tunah 07-09-2012 05:56 PM

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pusha 07-09-2012 06:01 PM

man thatl ooks like my cat

Joe Perez 07-09-2012 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Tunah (Post 901112)

:bowrofl:

Ben 07-10-2012 08:40 AM

Schrodinger's cat is part viper. Good grief, look at dem teef.

Joe Perez 07-11-2012 11:26 PM

So this is interesting. It's a Shrödinger's Cat simulator:

planettom

mgeoffriau 07-12-2012 01:38 AM

The inconsistent spelling of the man's name in the thread title and subsequent posts has been killing me.

y8s 07-12-2012 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 902160)
So this is interesting. It's a Shrödinger's Cat simulator:

planettom

I have a question:

What is the point?

Joe Perez 07-12-2012 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 902298)
I have a question:

What is the point?

It allows you to perform the experiment without killing a bunch of cats.

Bryce 07-12-2012 02:38 PM

98 alive, 100 dead. :(

y8s 07-12-2012 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 902334)
It allows you to perform the experiment without killing a bunch of cats.

but without starting with a live cat that exists in two states, how does it replicate the theory?

Joe Perez 07-12-2012 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 902420)
but without starting with a live cat that exists in two states, how does it replicate the theory?

How do you know that the underlying code doesn't simulate both states simultaneously, and then resolve them when the button is pressed?

y8s 07-12-2012 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 902429)
How do you know that the underlying code doesn't simulate both states simultaneously, and then resolve them when the button is pressed?

How do you know the code is not running a computer hooked up to a box with a live cat in it?

Joe Perez 07-12-2012 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 902454)
How do you know the code is not running a computer hooked up to a box with a live cat in it?

Well, if it is, then I feel -=> REALLY <=- bad about how many times I've clicked that button.

y8s 07-12-2012 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 902457)
Well, if it is, then I feel -=> REALLY <=- bad about how many times I've clicked that button.

don't. the cat was both dead and alive before you even clicked.


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