Stereo Too Loud ticket, San Diego, CA
Anyone got any advice on this one? Jesus. Fucking douche crap nutlicker cop tried to hit me for everything he could. Pain in the ass.
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wow. how loud was your stereo?
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not realy its a fairly vague and easy money for most cops, so gl but i dont see much good comming from it.
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Not. I dunno. There was some pretty decent base, but I've had it ear hurting before, and this wasn't. My friend opened the trunk (where the woofer was) and some cop runs up and starts trying to give me trouble. He was looking for an excuse, and that's what he picked. But, my friend standing on the other end of the car could hear the cop in a normal speaking voice over the "illegal decibel levels"
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Some cops are just like that. Not much you can do about it. Your word against his. Yours < His
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did he meter it? what's the law on file? where you on public property?
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V.C. Section 27007 - Sound Amplification Devices
doesn't look like a meter is required, but a tape measure is. |
You could hear my ringtone from 50ft away. That's kinda rediculous
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when the vehicle is being operated upon a highway, take it to court. |
If you can hear it at all from 25 feet away it is illegal here. You don't need a meter.
1. Pay the ticket. You will not beat it in court. 2. Turn it down. Nobody wants to hear that shit but you. That's why they passed the law. (I used to run a Kicker Pro-Series 18" before I grew up.) In court once I heard this exchange regarding a loud exhaust ticket: Defendant: I don't think it's that loud, sir. Judge: Is it louder than a stock exhaust? Defendant: A little, but not much. Judge: If it is louder than stock, it's not legal. Guilty. |
This is another example of laws that work to protect the people and make the community a safer place.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 453793)
If you can hear it at all from 25 feet away it is illegal here. You don't need a meter.
1. Pay the ticket. You will not beat it in court. 2. Turn it down. Nobody wants to hear that shit but you. That's why they passed the law. is that a tail between your legs or your small penis? |
Laws like this are BS. There are a lot of things in life I don't want to hear or see, but it's America. There is a line between protecting someone else's rights, and violating another's, and I think it is crossed too often.
Sometimes I wish I was a badass lawyer, I'd go around helping people getting dicked by cops. I'd even charge reasonable rates. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 453799)
is that a tail between your legs or your small penis?
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/04/08/baby-chocolate.jpg |
I don't know, I love when some guy drives through my neighborhood at 10pm with his stereo on 11. The best part is when it wakes my kids up while I'm getting with my wife.
Grow up and turn the shit down. |
Seriously?
Is life so damn comfy that we get upset that much by something so little? So upset that we need to make rules about it? There has got to be something more important to worry about (cough* 2 wars *cough) |
hmmm....turning it into a political discussion? interesting angle......
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what wars? obama brought peace to the world and pulled out all the troops.
Back on topic: If the law specifically says: when the vehicle is being operated upon a highway and said vehicle was not being operated upon a highway when said ticket was issued, then no law was actually violated. simple. |
Yeah sorry I'm bitter...
Should people in public receive tickets for chewing so loud I can hear them 10ft away? It seriously annoys me more compared to loud music. edit: sorry for off topic.. :/ |
Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
(Post 453814)
There is a line between protecting someone else's rights, and violating another's, and I think it is crossed too often.
I enjoy good music too...but I (and my daughter and wife) have a right to a reasonable level of piece in our residence. Abe...I'd fight it. It won't go anywhere...but I'd do it just on the basis that you probably weren't in a situation for which the law was designed. It's one thing to enjoy good music on a nice system, it's another to impinge on the rights of others. It's something else entirely to issue a ticket under the premise of the latter when that's not the case. |
And I've got no problem with loud music on the highway, but if it rattles the drinking glasses in my kitchen cabinet and makes the cat freak out and climb the drapes, that's pretty shitty. Again, NOBODY in their homes wants to hear that shit. Not one person is wishing you would linger longer so they could "get down" to your "dope beats."
Just keep it out of the neighborhoods. You are harshing my mellow. Edit: I don't like ice cream trucks either. |
There's worse things then loud music. How about the Harley guys with straight pipes? I can hear those shits from 20 blocks away
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I live off a busy road, the worst is motorcycles of all kinda, big trucks, idling gas tankers, ricer bois with fart cans. the least bothersome is a thumping stereo.
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Thanks you ass fucks. Why don't you all go suck that cop's dick?
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 453819)
I don't know, I love when some guy drives through my neighborhood at 10pm with his stereo on 11. The best part is when it wakes my kids up while I'm getting with my wife.
Grow up and turn the shit down. How about instead of telling me to grow up - who spent two months stopping in the street anyone I could to ask them if my exhaust was too loud after putting in my 3" - you read what I wrote. People on the sidewalk were asking me what the cop wanted. My buddy in the passenger seat could hear the cop talking in a normal voice OVER the radio.
Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 453840)
I enjoy good music too...but I (and my daughter and wife) have a right to a reasonable level of piece in our residence.
Abe...I'd fight it. It won't go anywhere...but I'd do it just on the basis that you probably weren't in a situation for which the law was designed. It's one thing to enjoy good music on a nice system, it's another to impinge on the rights of others. It's something else entirely to issue a ticket under the premise of the latter when that's not the case.
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 453842)
Just keep it out of the neighborhoods. You are harshing my mellow.
Edit: I don't like ice cream trucks either. This tape measure thing is interesting, though. I'm thinking of bringing in photos of my car and asking the cop to tell me which of these photos is the car 50 feet away in. |
Sound Amplification Devices 27007. No driver of a vehicle shall operate, or permit the operation of, any sound amplification system which can be heard outside the vehicle from 50 or more feet when the vehicle is being operated upon a highway, unless that system is being operated to request assistance or warn of a hazardous situation. This section shall not apply to authorized emergency vehicles or vehicles operated by gas, electric, communications, or water utilities. This section does not apply to the sound systems of vehicles used for advertising, or in parades, political or other special events, except that use of sound systems on those vehicles may be prohibited by a local authority by ordinance or resolution. Amended Ch. 538, Stats. 1989. Effective January 1, 1990. So, I guess it comes down to what is a highway - this was the main passenger pickup lane for the airport. (Or permit the operation of? I wonder how many stock cars COULD be heard from 50 feet away? Even turning on a stereo with the volume down, is illegal?) |
you were advertising for sony.
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Thank god we don't have retarded laws here. 25ft, seriously? That pretty much means you can't have the stereo on at all, especially at night. You can here a whisper from 25ft. Its good they take the time to enforce laws like this when people are being killed and robbed.
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Is your ticket specifically that you violated ordinance 27007?
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Yessir.
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Originally Posted by AbeFM
(Post 454003)
Yessir.
Good luck. |
In for NWA songs about Abe FM.
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I don't like hearing the shit either, but it does come with living in the city. Trains, planes and automobiles; oh my.
A gated community and living in the country fixes most of the sound issues. Well except for the occasional late night poaching/varmit shooting/dynamiting fish. ;) Go sleep in a real warzone for a week. That'll give you idea of some really annoying shit. Blackhawks flying 50 ft over your trailer every morning at 0500. F-16's taking off in pairs on afterburner every few hours. Mortar and rocket attacks that trip the warning sirens (they sure know how to celebrate Ramadan). :laugh: The Phalanx trying to shoot them down (Phalanx CIWS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Car stereos and Harleys? I sleep like a baby. Abe, it sucks about the ticket. Go fight it in court just on principle. Chris |
To the OP;
What is your traffic record like? If it is clean, I would say you have a -really- good chance of having it dismissed. If not, well, you still have the highway detail to work with. What is the cost of the fine? |
The fine? $35. The For-The-Glory-of-San-Diego added bonus charges? Another $100-150.. Cool, huh?
It's utterly the principle of the thing. I just wish they'd fucking tax us instead of picking out people based on the biases of individual not-cool-enough-to-get-a-car flatfoots. Took 25 minutes out of my day, and utterly ruined the day if not the week of two engineers working to keep our world a safer place - you know, by actually DOING something which helps. I'm sure it'll help the city to piss me off and have me move to some state where they let you fuckin' breath. Anyway, yeah, my record is fine, I get hit once every 18 months with some bullshit ticket and then take traffic school. The last one was for lanesplitting. They study how to write tickets you can't fight. There is no legal speed, legal volume, etc. The cop says he didn't like the look on your face, and the judge fines you for it. |
When the world gets to be fair, it will be boring... :D
Good luck though! |
:-(
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Welcome to America. Home of the "Do what I say, not what I do."
Law here is nothing on your vehicle may be heard at 50 feet. Lets make a list! 2009 Crown Victoria. How about the cooling fans on the radiator at 50 feet. Police Radio can be heard at 50 feet How about their stock exhaust system? Engine noise, not exhaust related. 2010 Harley Police bike exhaust 2010 bone stock showroom Harley motorbike Hemi Police Charger exhaust The rock hard shit ass dunslop tires they put on city vehicles A bone stock showroom diesel 3/4 ton pickup truck at idle Moth farting?? Maybe not at 50.. most likely 45 it'll fade away Any vehicle traveling over 20mph? Another jerkoff law money making law, just like ALL the rest of the traffic laws. Don't know about where you live, but money made off worthless pigs writing traffic tickets gets put into a general spending fund, where its spent on anything they feel like. Like those stupid piece of shit charger cop cars, crotch rockets to catch those "criminals" on their crotch rockets, more stupid LIDAR guns to make even more money, traffic cameras, speed cameras, etc. :jerkit: Yet when I call the city because 19 people who live around me have 2+ dogs a piece and leave them outside 24/7 barking non fucking stop........ Do they give a flying fuck? Nope! |
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