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Joe Perez 03-03-2010 04:01 PM

Thinking about buying a boat...
 
Just a little inflatable runabout.

Maybe this one:

http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/2...dm_84360b9.jpg

The backstory:

snopes.com: Drug-Running Boat

y8s 03-03-2010 04:10 PM

thrust vectoring?

also

JEsus

cueball1 03-03-2010 04:37 PM

70mph in an inflatable. Me likey.

curly 03-03-2010 04:37 PM

"oh god it's the coast guard!"

"quick, turn on our engines and flip our boat over backwards!"

Efini~FC3S 03-03-2010 05:51 PM

Since when was selling boats illegal?

miata2fast 03-03-2010 06:06 PM

Looks efficient.

Joe Perez 03-03-2010 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 532115)
Since when was selling boats illegal?

In most EU nations, farting loudly is illegal.

Actually, even in the US this would be a crime if it were proven that the boat was constructed and sold with the knowledge and intent that it be used for the purpose of drug trafficking. It would be aiding and abetting, and most likely conspiracy as well. Depending upon the nature of the customer's criminal history and associations, the seller might even be prosecuted under the RICO act, which is basically one of the shittier things that can happen to a person.

miata2fast 03-03-2010 06:15 PM

Ugh......Joe....Could you ditch the santa hat?

Fireindc 03-03-2010 06:15 PM

"Highspeed uncactchable craft with a low radar signature"

Looks like a cool boat imo. Shame they imprisoned for doing nothing illegal(well as far as that article says).

Project84 03-03-2010 11:03 PM

I didn't read the article but 70mph is a shame. That thing looks like it should burn a trail across the water's surface w/ all that power behind it.

My friend has a 15' fiberglass hull bass fishing boat we take out. It has an 80hp on it and will do 35mph.

miata2fast 03-03-2010 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 532323)
My friend has a 15' fiberglass hull bass fishing boat we take out. It has an 80hp on it and will do 35mph.

That is blistering. You must have shit your britches.:jerkit:













:giggle:

Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-03-2010 11:11 PM

I wanna build one of these

http://usshighpoint.com/photos/midpch1.jpg

Project84 03-03-2010 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by miata2fast (Post 532329)
That is blistering. You must have shit your britches.:jerkit:

:giggle:

I'm confused. :hustler:

Trying to point out that (1) 80hp gives us 35mph... this guy has 25x the power behind is boat and is only doubling that speed? It's pointless.

One of those motors costs 10x as much as my friend's entire boat w/ trailer.

To me, 35mph on open water is damn fast. Feels like you're doing 60mph at least.

chicksdigmiatas 03-03-2010 11:22 PM

Joe, buy it.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-03-2010 11:23 PM

Yah, because thats how it works

double the power = double the top speed

My miata could do 120 mph stock with 110 hp,
If I make 220 now that means I can go 240 mph right?

Project84 03-03-2010 11:26 PM

WTF does "double the power" have to do with my statement of 25x the power? Is 25 the same thing as 2?

If you miata had 25x the stock power, I imagine it would do double the stock top speed (or at least, be capable of it).

I'm confused how this is even necessary to point out.

EDIT: (8) 250hp motors on the boat total 2,000hp. You're okay with 2,000hp only equaling out to 70mph? I'm not. That shit is absurdly pointless. The cost of those motors is roughly $18k each. $144k to go 70mph?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-03-2010 11:30 PM

Because its not that simple fuckface

How do you know that 25x the power = 2x the top speed

Think about the density of water, do you realize how much the resistance is going to increase with speed? Not to mention aero resistance.
Not to mention youre comparing a 40 foot long, 20 foot wide BOAT to your buddys little dingy (no homo).

NA6C-Guy 03-03-2010 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 532323)
I didn't read the article but 70mph is a shame. That thing looks like it should burn a trail across the water's surface w/ all that power behind it.

My friend has a 15' fiberglass hull bass fishing boat we take out. It has an 80hp on it and will do 35mph.

Yeah, because 70mph in a low profile ocean going boat load with tons of drugs is slow. :nuts: Even high end fiberglass bass boats with 300hp outboards, 70 is impressive, and that is on smooth lake water.

Have you ever stuck your hand in the water while riding in a boat moving at any speed over 5mph? It's not air.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-03-2010 11:35 PM

Ive been in a 500hp fountain boat at 80mph, it feels like youre being skullfucked by a mountain gorilla

NA6C-Guy 03-03-2010 11:39 PM

High speed on the water is scary... but it still doesn't stop me from wanting a turbo powered pwc. :giggle: I got to drive a guys SeaDoo RXP at the lake a few years ago, and my god! 60mph on the water feels like 150 on land. Incredible fun. Another toy I'd like to own one day for weekend lake trips.

Project84 03-03-2010 11:46 PM

Sure, everything isn't linear, I get it. I could give two shits about the density of water, resistance, and your heterophobic wet dreams. I'm looking at price vs. reality. It just isn't worth it. Not even 1/8th of that price is worth a speed of 70mph.

$144k worth of engines to go 70mph while exposing my drugs to the elements is in one word, pointless. Not that I care to even halfway look into the subject, but surely there are 50 better alternatives to this.

Some quick googling turned up that a full size bass fishing boat with (1) 250hp will take you between 60-75mph.

Yeah I know, this isn't a bass boat. But why not transport drugs in style in something with sleeping quarters and a sealed off storage area. For, lets guess, $30-40k, a boat could be had to suit those needs that would do the same speed and if you didn't look like a drug running junkie, you could pass by law enforcement on the open water as if you were on a sunday cruise.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-04-2010 12:00 AM

Youre neglecting the weight of all youre gayness

/thread

NA6C-Guy 03-04-2010 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 532354)
Sure, everything isn't linear, I get it. I could give two shits about the density of water, resistance, and your heterophobic wet dreams. I'm looking at price vs. reality. It just isn't worth it. Not even 1/8th of that price is worth a speed of 70mph.

$144k worth of engines to go 70mph while exposing my drugs to the elements is in one word, pointless. Not that I care to even halfway look into the subject, but surely there are 50 better alternatives to this.

Some quick googling turned up that a full size bass fishing boat with (1) 250hp will take you between 60-75mph.

Yeah I know, this isn't a bass boat. But why not transport drugs in style in something with sleeping quarters and a sealed off storage area. For, lets guess, $30-40k, a boat could be had to suit those needs that would do the same speed and if you didn't look like a drug running junkie, you could pass by law enforcement on the open water as if you were on a sunday cruise.

Well then shut the fuck up if you don't care about the subject. No one is pulling your chain.

70mph in that boat is HAULING ASS

RotorNutFD3S 03-04-2010 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 532347)
High speed on the water is scary... but it still doesn't stop me from wanting a turbo powered pwc. :giggle: I got to drive a guys SeaDoo RXP at the lake a few years ago, and my god! 60mph on the water feels like 150 on land. Incredible fun. Another toy I'd like to own one day for weekend lake trips.

I go out onto the assembly line and watch them build the FX SHO, HKS supercharged 1.8L engine in a WaveRunner (I work for Yamaha). I've also gotten to drive them, they are insanely powerful and fast. Definite adrenaline rush.

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NA6C-Guy 03-04-2010 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by RotorNutFD3S (Post 532388)
I go out onto the assembly line and watch them build the FX SHO, HKS supercharged 1.8L engine in a WaveRunner (I work for Yamaha). I've also gotten to drive them, they are insanely powerful and fast. Definite adrenaline rush.

Hook a brother up with a ride :bigtu: Those are some bad ass machines. For $13k they better be.

miata2fast 03-04-2010 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 532347)
High speed on the water is scary... but it still doesn't stop me from wanting a turbo powered pwc. :giggle: I got to drive a guys SeaDoo RXP at the lake a few years ago, and my god! 60mph on the water feels like 150 on land. Incredible fun. Another toy I'd like to own one day for weekend lake trips.

I have one, and love it. It needs a little more boost though.

y8s 03-04-2010 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 532331)

how about a simpler version:
http://www.lifeinthefastlane.ca/wp-c...ikes_10sfw.jpg

akaryrye 03-04-2010 11:23 AM


Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-04-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 532533)

Well yah, I was thinking more along the lines of putting a hydrofoil on a dingy, haha

cueball1 03-04-2010 06:18 PM

Ok, just because I can't leave the "only 70mph" thing alone...

It carries 4000 gallons of fuel and who knows how many tons of cargo. Plus if you forget water resistance, aerodynamics and the logistics of big speed in the open ocean carrying cargo, it's gearing dumb ass. ( In the case of boats gearing and prop angle) You could have a 1000 hp Miata but with stock gearing in the tranny and rear end you still top out at 140.

Those offshore racing boats with 3000hp, kevlar hulls and incredible aerodynamics, on smooth water will do 180mph. In chop it drops to 1/2 that. A 70mph rubber cargo boat is damn impressive.

Sparetire 03-04-2010 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 532343)
Ive been in a 500hp fountain boat at 80mph, it feels like youre being skullfucked by a mountain gorilla

Statements like this should be used as captions for the MT.net calendar.

jacob300zx 03-04-2010 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 532354)
Sure, everything isn't linear, I get it. I could give two shits about the density of water, resistance, and your heterophobic wet dreams. I'm looking at price vs. reality. It just isn't worth it. Not even 1/8th of that price is worth a speed of 70mph.

$144k worth of engines to go 70mph while exposing my drugs to the elements is in one word, pointless. Not that I care to even halfway look into the subject, but surely there are 50 better alternatives to this.

Some quick googling turned up that a full size bass fishing boat with (1) 250hp will take you between 60-75mph.

Yeah I know, this isn't a bass boat. But why not transport drugs in style in something with sleeping quarters and a sealed off storage area. For, lets guess, $30-40k, a boat could be had to suit those needs that would do the same speed and if you didn't look like a drug running junkie, you could pass by law enforcement on the open water as if you were on a sunday cruise.

You should seriously stfu...70mph in a bass boat on a smooth lake is not even close to open ocean. Your bass boat would make it 2min at 20mph than get eaten by a wave and sink or snap in half. I've been 30mph in a RHI offshore...I gouged my knee and another guy broke a finger...rough...like 8 seconds rough

Project84 03-04-2010 06:54 PM

Point I'm aiming for here is at the price you'd pay for just the motors on that boat, you could use a little more brains and come up with something (doesn't have to be a boat) much better.

Your little tidbit about the 1,000hp miata is senseless. If you can afford to build a 1,000hp miata, you could afford to modify it to exceed the 140mph limit you speak of. Why in the hell would a 1,000hp miata have stock gearing? It wouldn't.

EDIT: Here. 70mph isn't shit compared to THIS. And I feel the same way about the (one can only assume) price tag on it. I'd guess $600k? For $600k, I could go a lot faster than 114mph in something that'll carry just as much drugs if not more, and be much more versitile. Like a an aircraft.

That's all I'm pointing out here. $180k for the inflate-a-boat that'll do 70mph on water, is $180k not spent on an entire fleet of cargo vans that'll do 70mph on a legal interstate with no questions asked. How's that? Hell, for $180k you could buy a couple outdated tour busses or RV's and tint the windows and traffic drugs all while looking like a typical wealthy family on a nice vacation.

inferno94 03-04-2010 07:08 PM

:2cents:

I've been out in the great lakes in chop that's 4-6' crest to trough at 50-60mph on my seadoo and it is the scariest thing I've ever done while also being the biggest rush ever.

I've done the same in my dad's boat where the wost you feel from the same conditions is like hitting a speed bump at 35mph in your car but no big deal.

That's a 2 seat pwc vs a 22' sport cuddy, that boat would be pretty decent, similar to a coast guard vessel.

I too want boost in my pwc but not the weight of the new machines, mine weighs ~450lbs dry.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 03-04-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 532828)
Statements like this should be used as captions for the MT.net calendar.

Paints a picture dont it ;)

miata2fast 03-04-2010 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 532817)
Those offshore racing boats with 3000hp, kevlar hulls and incredible aerodynamics, on smooth water will do 180mph. In chop it drops to 1/2 that. A 70mph rubber cargo boat is damn impressive.

I know this may sound dickish, but offshore designs run a little faster in water with some chop. But I know where you are coming from.

I have heard that there are smaller inflatables that will do some impressive speeds. Coast Guard and other law enforcement use them all the time to run down misbehaving boaters here in Florida.

MINX 03-04-2010 08:30 PM

I dont think it was ever a drug boat.
That was a media beat up.

Hydrive hydraulic steering manufactures used it to demonstrate the ability of their steering systems, and the strength of their ram to steer so many outboards.
It is certainly not a practical or sensible way to power an offshore, or inshore boat.

Faeflora 03-04-2010 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 532828)
Statements like this should be used as captions for the MT.net calendar.

Ditto please

Stein 03-04-2010 11:18 PM

Fastest that I have been in a boat is 95 in a friend's Allison. He had his fishing prop on it for a tournament. When he has the race prop on it will do 114 GPS. He has a Merc Racing 280 hp motor on it. It's quick. It has tandem seating and a wierd little cockpit that really kills the wind. He drove the whole time smoking a big fat dog turd cigar and never lost an ash or his hat.

Another friend had a Champion with a 200 with "some mods" putting out 320. It ran about 85 which is pretty good for a tuna boat Champ.

Stein 03-04-2010 11:33 PM

Pretty cool video from the Jasper River Run in TN. I'd love to do it some time but my boat will only do about 60. Take a look at the Stroker around 2:25. He's running 105 GPS. He has since gone 121 after some additional motor and prop mods and solo in the boat.

YouTube - Jasper07 River Run

Yeah, I'm a redneck and living up to my avatar.:giggle:

Mobius 03-04-2010 11:38 PM

There are boats about that size in Alaska that run the rivers that have a ton of power. I don't recall exactly how many outboards it had but I remember being impressed it had a thousand horsepower. They have to stay up to speed through parts of the gravel bars where the water isn't deep enough to float the boat if it comes to a stop.

NA6C-Guy 03-05-2010 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 532846)
That's all I'm pointing out here. $180k for the inflate-a-boat that'll do 70mph on water, is $180k not spent on an entire fleet of cargo vans that'll do 70mph on a legal interstate with no questions asked. How's that? Hell, for $180k you could buy a couple outdated tour busses or RV's and tint the windows and traffic drugs all while looking like a typical wealthy family on a nice vacation.

So now you know more about drug smuggling than the big guys themselves? Clearly they are already using vans and getting stopped at the borders, and planes getting grounded and searched upon landing. Apparently they have a reason to need a boat. Drug smuggling aside, and money aside, 70mph in this boat is fast, that is all that should need to be said.

Qckslvr 03-05-2010 02:20 PM

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60mph and starting out only sitting a foot out of the water is scary fast. At WoT only the back 3' of my 18' jet would be in the water. Hitting a wake and launching into the air was always a fun and rough landing.

A friend of mine had a 454 blown on nitrous jet boat with a drop snoot. The ass at 75 MPH hit the bottle, and I just about shit my pants. He said we hit a 100, I was to busy holding on to the oh shit handle praying that I lived. I will say the blower 2 feet behind your head is an awesome sound.

mah Tahiti when I had it. Balanced and blueprinted 455 Olds, MSD ign, 650cfm carb on a Edelbrock intake, Crane custom ground cam, roller rockers, roller lifters. :)
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I am so glad I sold that money pit, and bought another Miata.

Joe Perez 03-06-2010 11:59 PM



Info: Squirt 2



Of course, that's just the amateur version. Sometimes you need to call in the pros.


chicksdigmiatas 03-07-2010 10:19 PM

I'll have mine with JATO rockets please.

NA6C-Guy 03-07-2010 10:27 PM

I didn't give them permission to use video of my boat!!! I also wish they didn't put the music so fucking loud over the sound of my engines. Why do people always think I want to hear their poor taste in music instead of the subject of the video. Pisses me off.


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