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jeff_man 02-13-2012 10:51 AM

Thinking about a turbo diesel.
 
What should i get? Want something in the last few years.

Stein 02-13-2012 10:54 AM

335d

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jeff_man 02-13-2012 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 834544)
335d

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sub $35k or is there a used year that is the tits?

335d is in the 36 mpg range aslo. I could get that from gas.

Stein 02-13-2012 12:08 PM

Well, you didn't have any specs listed other than turbo and diesel.

Should be under $35K with some miles. I passed on a 6K mile 2011 for $39K because it was just too expensive for me when I'm going to burn it down in 3 years.

If you want better mileage I don't know if there is a better (any?) option in the US than the Jetta but I can't speak to reliability of VW's at all.

jeff_man 02-13-2012 12:27 PM

I thought there would be more options then a3, jetta and 335d when i posted this. Very sad to see there is not.

Joe Perez 02-13-2012 01:37 PM

Ford Mondeo.

You'll have to import one from Europe, but it's a shockingly nice car to drive.

Bond 02-13-2012 02:19 PM

Can't dodge it, ram it.

jeff_man 02-13-2012 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 834640)
Can't dodge it, ram it.

There will be ramming tonight.

55k for the new 335d with options I would want.

pusha 02-13-2012 03:53 PM

You mention $35,000, is that your ceiling?

Look into the TDI Jetta. My buddy has a MY08 or 09 with well over 200k miles and aside from timing belt changes (he does them himself, you should be able to as well), he's had no issues. I know, I know, a VW without gremlins, perhaps he's lucky, but I feel the TDI Jettas are all blessed with good fortune.

jeff_man 02-13-2012 05:26 PM

Jettas are just so fugly

hustler 02-13-2012 05:31 PM

lol @ european unreliable shitboxes.

budget racer 02-13-2012 07:27 PM

with small gas cars capable of 40mpgs at a fraction of the cost (car and fuel).....why do you insist on a turbodiesel?

shooterschmidty 02-13-2012 10:24 PM

F250 w/ 7.3?

FRT_Fun 02-13-2012 10:28 PM

If you go turbo diesel. Needs to be a truck. This is MERICA


and TEXAS you fairy

jeff_man 02-26-2012 03:22 PM

Picking up a 2012 Golf TDI 4 door some time next week.

gearhead_318 02-26-2012 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 834768)
with small gas cars capable of 40mpgs at a fraction of the cost (car and fuel).....why do you insist on a turbodiesel?

Good point.

owenwilliams 02-26-2012 04:20 PM


with small gas cars capable of 40mpgs at a fraction of the cost (car and fuel).....why do you insist on a turbodiesel?
For all the reasons that modern turbodiesels outsell petrol cars by, er, 'a lot' to one all over Europe. The power to mpg ratio can't be beaten. It's also a style of power delivery that's easier to use for most people, compared to the rev-the-tits-off-it style that's required from small eco petrol cars in comparison.

America is behind the times with turbodiesels, frankly. The latest engines are pretty amazing for most drivers.

Check out the new triple-turbo diesel that BMW has just released. 'Tis interesting.

I was a diesel sceptic until my dad bought an '05 UK-spec 535d, and had it remapped. It makes around 315bhp, and one gazillion lb/f of torque. The latter means it feels like it makes 315hp everywhere in the rev range.
The damping is awful, the tyre noise and the wind noise around the A pillar is sub-par, and the whole thing as a package feels like a bad compromise, but that's all another matter...

pusha 02-26-2012 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by shooterschmidty (Post 834819)
F250 w/ 7.3?

386k miles and counting here. I wouldn't hesitate to jump in that thing and drive to Wyoming.

jasonb 02-27-2012 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 834726)
lol @ european unreliable shitboxes.

when wife was looking for a commuter couple years back she ended up with vw tdi. i was dissapointed that subaru and honda both had really good press on their diesel motors (this is 2 years back) and i still haven't seen anything from them. iirc hondas was in the 60mpg range and subarus was similar.

this says mazda is bringing one in this year. huh

http://www.practicalenvironmentalist...iesel-cars.htm

gearhead_318 02-27-2012 01:57 AM

Is that figure in American gallons or Imperial gallons?

samulis 02-27-2012 05:22 AM

Fiat 500
That diesel does over 80mpg on highway.

hustler 02-27-2012 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 840337)
when wife was looking for a commuter couple years back she ended up with vw tdi. i was dissapointed that subaru and honda both had really good press on their diesel motors (this is 2 years back) and i still haven't seen anything from them. iirc hondas was in the 60mpg range and subarus was similar.

this says mazda is bringing one in this year. huh

http://www.practicalenvironmentalist...iesel-cars.htm

I'd hold-out for a SkyActive car.

rleete 02-27-2012 09:10 AM

Nephew is looking at Mazdaspeed3, and took me along for advice. That new engine management is slick. You'd hardly know it was doing anything unless you're really listening for it. If it wasn't FWD, I'd be tempted.

inferno94 02-27-2012 09:25 AM

^^+1 The new CX5 gets 4.9L highway 7.1L city /100km seats 5 and tows 2000lbs on reg gas for ~20k new. I know there is one at the local dealer I plan on testing out.

jeff_man 02-27-2012 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 840391)
I'd hold-out for a SkyActive car.

Drove one, slow and only 31mpg

jasonb 02-27-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 840341)
Is that figure in American gallons or Imperial gallons?

nice catch. the articles always forget to mention that.

imperial would drop the 60 to 50: 60*0.83267384 = 49.96043040

http://www.hybridcars.com/fuels/hond...tsx-25245.html

looking at current marketing http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/accordsa...lspecification if you switch to manual urban mpg is listed as 64.2.

64.2*0.83267384 = 53.457660528

ive done 53 in the vw before but i had to follow a minivan

jeff_man 02-29-2012 09:32 AM

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Faeflora 02-29-2012 09:48 AM

You can get a factory certified 335D for around $40k.

I drove one. Felt cheap and was heavy. Powerband was gay. Who likes a powerband to go weaksauce up top??????

pusha 02-29-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 841375)

congrats, but quick question:

is buying a new car a good feeling, even if it's a "boring car". I've only ever bought a couple cars new in my time and they've always been exciting, even my 2005 Jeep Wrangler.

Laur3ns 02-29-2012 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 834544)
335d

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Correction: 535d

jeff_man 02-29-2012 03:22 PM

2012 335d was 2x the price and dont want a 5xx.

hustler 02-29-2012 04:01 PM

lol @ buying a shitbox euro disaster on wheels.

Faeflora 02-29-2012 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 841512)
Correction: 535d

This sounds more appealing.

But for that much money I could have a

built LS motor
big 'un turbo'd

RX7 for a daily driver.

Two of them.

jasonb 03-02-2012 10:38 PM

oh hustler they aren't that bad. hecho in mexico actually. get it on a tight uphill road and u can feel that 2 liters of diesel fury lol.

i dun know if anybody is familiar but there is a steep road on the way to yosemite (old priests grade). managed to hit 50mph up that thing in the wagon.

bikersam717 03-02-2012 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 842590)
oh hustler they aren't that bad. hecho in mexico actually. get it on a tight uphill road and u can feel that 2 liters of diesel fury lol.

i dun know if anybody is familiar but there is a steep road on the way to yosemite (old priests grade). managed to hit 50mph up that thing in the wagon.

That road is a blast. Leads to some of the funnest roads around here, like greenly hill.

viperormiata 03-03-2012 11:30 AM

You bought a vw?! Do you not love yourself? Is this some kind of punishment for something you've done in the past?

jeff_man 03-04-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 842694)
You bought a vw?! Do you not love yourself? Is this some kind of punishment for something you've done in the past?

Only tdi option that was not over 30k

at lest it runs on recycled jews

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1330889977

pusha 03-04-2012 03:48 PM

is it STICK SHIFT?

karter74 03-04-2012 04:16 PM

Did this car replace another car? I still can't comprehend how people can justify spending >$5k on an "economy" car they want for the mileage. A 10 year old Accord will probably be more reliable, get slightly less fuel economy, yet with the $25k saved, that buys a lot of gas.

Oh well. Car looks good, hope you enjoy it!

jeff_man 03-04-2012 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by karter74 (Post 843126)
Did this car replace another car? I still can't comprehend how people can justify spending >$5k on an "economy" car they want for the mileage. A 10 year old Accord will probably be more reliable, get slightly less fuel economy, yet with the $25k saved, that buys a lot of gas.

Oh well. Car looks good, hope you enjoy it!

replaced a 22mpg 02 miata that needed min 1k in work to pass inspection (cat, both o2, something in abs). Yes I could have done most my self but owned 2 blue NBs so no real reason to keep both. Kept 99 track car and got a car I can haul stuff in.

kotomile 03-04-2012 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 843114)
is it STICK SHIFT?

My TDi wagon is, yessiree.

jeff_man 03-04-2012 09:14 PM

Also i have only owned used cars that were crap when I got them. My 02 was stock and nice but still 6 years old. First new car, non 2 door and non mazda. Had 89 rx7 that never ran, shity turbo 2 swapped 87 rx7 gxl that never ran right, 02 miata se and ---- box 99 miata turned track car.


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