Thinking about V8 swap
WHOOOOO!!!!
I am sure that you guys have already seen this. These prices are reasonable. Miata V8 Swap I would have the axles and driveshaft made Texarkana AR. There is a old family owned shop there that does great work. And are very reasonable. They made us a solid driveshaft for my little brothers Camero for I think $189.00. The dealership wanted $900. The carrier bearing can't be replaced on those. And it was cheaper for the shop to just make a new solid driveshaft. Anyway. If I come across a Ls1, I may do this. Wow. ------------------------------------------------- There are some 4-wheel drive specialist in Texarkana too. They could easily make a front support. I may try to get a quote, times are scary there right now. I bet someone could get a deal. |
What would you use for the computer, MS. Or is it easier to use the factory harness?
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Well it says the ac won't work......Hmmmmm
That thing is basically a 350, I bet I could bolt on older brackets and place the a/c else where. And I believe I would rather have a soild axle. Being as i mainly go to the drag stip. ------------------------------------------------ If I sold my girls 91 and put her in the Jackal. I would have enough to get the ball rolling in parts. Then I would just find a straight bodied none running car . |
You would use the factory GM computer.
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Todd; if you're really serious about that possibility, you have to check all the info at m.net on that subject.
There was a member here who sold his FM kit to build a V8 swap. Nice guy. I think he's from Kentucky. Not as easy to do well as you're thinking though. |
Originally Posted by Toddcod
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What would you use for the computer, MS. Or is it easier to use the factory harness?
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If only there was some way to retain the AC and power steering with a v8 swap. :(
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Originally Posted by Saml01
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If only there was some way to retain the AC and power steering with a v8 swap. :(
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Originally Posted by Rafa
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Todd; if you're really serious about that possibility, you have to check all the info at m.net on that subject.
There was a member here who sold his FM kit to build a V8 swap. Nice guy. I think he's from Kentucky. Not as easy to do well as you're thinking though. Vash- |
Thanks guys,
If that motor has the same bracket bolt holes as the 70'-98 350's. I will use a different bracket combo. something more like a Sanden a/c conversion bracket and compressor, and altenator bracket. Cold air out of Fort worth has different combo's for almost all chevy years. I'll put a cowl hood on it, if needed for clearance. I'll get rid of power steering, and just have the altenator, and a/c. I can't believe these guys haven't contacted them. If they dropped them off a car, they would get rid of all the large factory crap, and mount it out to where our cold air induction shield is on the older FM kits. I had an old CJ-7 that had a 300hp 350, all moded and lifted out. The first thing I did ws put a/c on it. And the sanden compressor is way lighter, and more compact. LOL If it can't have a/c. I don't want it. |
Drop Shandelle at v8roadsters.com an email. I'm about %75 done my swap using their kit and I don't care about AC but I think they're working on a kit to retain it.
Frank |
Originally Posted by Saml01
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If only there was some way to retain the AC and power steering with a v8 swap. :(
Frank |
Nathan's LS1 Miata
One of the best documented conversions out there. I will be following this route in the next two years. Trying to get some quality time out of my car now that I finally have the turbo up and running well. Still need to do some more tuning to cut fuel at the high end after I installed the new pump. |
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I calculated it would be about $6k out of pocket to sell my drivetrain and dump an LS1 into it. The scary part is how those motors respond to a little massage; a stock 346ci LS1 with a cam, heads, IM, intake, full exhaust, and a good tune can make nearly 500whp. I just saw a chart of a stroked LS3 putting 515whp and 485wtq through cats, with 450wtq available at like 2500rpm. It's just retarded power.
Originally Posted by Saml01
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If only there was some way to retain the AC and power steering with a v8 swap. :(
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Agreed. I am not going to upgrade anything else power wise with my car. With 250hp, I am at the limits of what my 5 speed and 3.9 diff can take. Any more and I need to start upgrading trans and diff parts. That's why I am looking at the CTS diff kit next. Then on to the v8!! Only 14 more months until I get promoted.
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Originally Posted by Savington
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I calculated it would be about $6k out of pocket to sell my drivetrain and dump an LS1 into it. The scary part is how those motors respond to a little massage; a stock 346ci LS1 with a cam, heads, IM, intake, full exhaust, and a good tune can make nearly 500whp. I just saw a chart of a stroked LS3 putting 515whp and 485wtq through cats, with 450wtq available at like 2500rpm. It's just retarded power.
What day of the month do you start bleeding on? He went from burning second hard, to staying sideways till 65, in a automatic. I never seen a car respond so well to small bolt ons. 5.0's responed well for their time. But nothing like the LS1. Im going to think on it. That would be awsome. I would like to have a automatic. But I bet it wouldn't fit. Chevy automatics are awesome. They pull good times. Unlike ford auto's. I think that is the safest route to possibly hooking up. That is very doubtful though. LOL It would be better just to stick with what the kit calls for. And how could you hate a six speed. |
You won't get 380 without a tune, LS6 intake, long tubes and a least a mild cam (Z06 cam). The nicest thing about running big power in an LSX is using the factory ECU and simply flashing it for the mods. CELs? Tune them out. Need to pass emissions, no problem. Running rich, simple reflash. Monitor all your sensors and all engine parameters via laptop.
That and you can swing by your local Pep boys for parts. Frank |
Originally Posted by Toddcod
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I would like to have a automatic. But I bet it wouldn't fit.
So far there are several manufacturers. Some make installation easier (Boss Frog) while leaving the engine and trans slightly farther forward. FM is a distributor for v8roadsters. v8 has their own forum section on the website. It is a little light, but there are some other projects you can look at. Racingconcepts I believe is still in business, but he bit off more than he could chew for a while and has a less than stellar reputation in the v8 conversion section on M.net. "Flaming Johnny" of zenspeed.com has another option he has been working on for some time. I don't think they are ready to start distribution yet. All of the kits have different pros/cons. The FM kit keeps the best weight distribution (theoretically) and has the CTS diff which makes it easier to route an exhaust around it. However, it is the most metalurgically intensive and has the most welding of all the kits. This scares some off as these are tools most of us just don't have. Boss Frog has a good solution for the front k-member that I believe is compatible with the sway bar, but some solutions require you to relocate it. This could impact its effectiveness. Then there is the rear end. From a CTS, 7" ford, 8" ford, used Thunderbird... the options are plentiful. However, all of these require crazy expensive custom axles, and the CV boots are turning into a real problem for clearance. I know Boss Frog is talking that their next project might be a new tube lower control arm that moves the bottom shock mount toward the front of the car for clearance. This would be hella cool, but would add to the kit cost. It all depends on what you want to do. And the last issue that seems to be light on discussion is the wiring harness. Everyone just seems to magically come up with a wiring harness for the cars. There is little discussion on where to source these things, what the options are for mounting the ECU, etc. Personally, the most elegant LSx install I have seen was the old Diamond Motorsports. They built custom fuse boxes and ECU mounts in the engine bay and the install looked top notch. Unfortunately, they were ahead of their time and went out of business. Hope this helps someone. |
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