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18psi 07-22-2010 10:34 PM

There is no way in hell you're finding any sort of decent STi for under 10k. If that were possible I'd have one as my "other" car right now. They're 12k for a high mileage beat up one or salvage title. All else is 15+ at least.

A WRX wagon really isn't hard to find unabused.
Its like the "other" wrx that not very many stupid young punk kids prefer. Same everything, just a tiny bit more weight and its in the back helping the car rotate a bit better than the WRX when cornering.

If you're into wagons than you'll find a low mileage clean and well taken care of WRX with not much problems. At least around here. Not sure what kinda demand you have in your area.

FRT_Fun 07-22-2010 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 605634)
If you're into wagons than you'll find a low mileage clean and well taken care of WRX with not much problems. At least around here. Not sure what kinda demand you have in your area.

That is pretty much what I'm going for. Seems like there is a good selection for around that price range. Definitely not trying to find an STI around that price lol.

curly 07-22-2010 11:13 PM

There was a GRM article a few months ago (6ish I think) about looking at the Saab 9-3x as an alternative. It's like the WRX wagon is to the sedan, usually ignored and well maintained. If you can stand the different looks to it, it could be a much better choice. It's nothing but a re badged Subaru as far as I know.

Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.

jbrown7815 07-22-2010 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 605661)
There was a GRM article a few months ago (6ish I think) about looking at the Saab 9-3x as an alternative. It's like the WRX wagon is to the sedan, usually ignored and well maintained. If you can stand the different looks to it, it could be a much better choice. It's nothing but a re badged Subaru as far as I know.

Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.

Prices are much higher (for a half decent condition one)

Faeflora 07-23-2010 12:31 AM

Fuck, I would drive a forester xt. Wait, I do drive a forester xt. Lighter than an STi, moddable, hauls shit, about as common as a wrx wagon blah blah blah. Expect to pay 7-10K though for one with 100K miles. Can put sti shock on it for a good 2" drop. Yay.

18psi 07-23-2010 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 605661)
There was a GRM article a few months ago (6ish I think) about looking at the Saab 9-3x as an alternative. It's like the WRX wagon is to the sedan, usually ignored and well maintained. If you can stand the different looks to it, it could be a much better choice. It's nothing but a re badged Subaru as far as I know.

Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.

much


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 605697)
Fuck, I would drive a forester xt. Wait, I do drive a forester xt. Lighter than an STi, moddable, hauls shit, about as common as a wrx wagon blah blah blah. Expect to pay 7-10K though for one with 100K miles. Can put sti shock on it for a good 2" drop. Yay.

lol
3210 lbs.
vs
3,263lbs

dstn2bdoa 07-23-2010 01:09 AM

18psi, I know you know you know your Subaru shit, and I'll probably be asking you for tuning advice soon for my 08.

But here is my anecdotal experience with an 02 WRX. I bought it new in feb of 02, I did the stoptech stage II brake kit, other than that it was kept stock. It's life was lived consistently at redline, I sold it 6 years later with 111k miles on it. It never, not once, gave me a problem. I know it wasn't modded, I only dragged it a couple of times. It was a canyon basher that was always rev matched.

I guess my point is I've never loved any car, more than my 02 WRX, and it made me sad to see you bash them. /Rant.

18psi 07-23-2010 01:20 AM

LET ME CLARIFY:

I wasn't specific enough and I apologize: SOME of the 02's are a nightmare. Specifically the earlier ones.

I've seen a bunch of well running ones. But the few I've seen with problems had LOTS of problems. Researching the matter a little deeper I found out that there are a lot of people out there with "lemon" 02's. Dealerships did a good job of NOT BROADCASTING it either lol

1st model year, of course its expected.



I'm glad yours was great. I too love the bug eyes:)

Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8:D
http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img..._1998_01_s.jpg

dstn2bdoa 07-23-2010 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 605711)

Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8:D
http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img..._1998_01_s.jpg

Yes these are very nice. I did the ridgecrest rally school with a guy who had one of those with a STI swap i believe. It was really nice.

Faeflora 07-23-2010 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 605699)
much


lol
3210 lbs.
vs
3,263lbs

Suck a dick. Quit whoring wikipedia.

3060 lbs fxt
3175 lbs sti

per http://www.carfolio.com

Nyways 100lbs difference between them. If I could have a miata station wagon that weighed 2400lbs, I would. Have it.

NA6C-Guy 07-23-2010 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 605545)
Isn't that EXACTLY what our cars are and what we do with them?

A miata is so slow stock a damn prius will give it a run for its money. And handling is NOT all that great on stock shocks and stock tires.

So I honestly don't know where you're getting that from.

for roughly 500 bux (tbe+3port solenoid+tune which is free) my 05 ran 13.2@101. and that's the 2.0L version. with that much in an 06+ well tuned and well driven you're looking at GOBS more torque due to .5L increase and avcs

I was referring to my Miata, which is still a turd. Handling wise, it feels much better to me than a stock WRX wagon. I could understand what I felt from a Forester, but I expected something else from the WRX.

18psi 07-23-2010 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 605717)
Suck a dick. Quit whoring wikipedia.

3060 lbs fxt
3175 lbs sti

per http://www.carfolio.com

Nyways 100lbs difference between them. If I could have a miata station wagon that weighed 2400lbs, I would. Have it.

You suck a dick. they are not 3k lbs. And an sti is not 31. They are both over 3200. Don't make me dig up pictures of them getting weighed on the scale. or numerous threads on suby forums proving you wrong.

*edit:
X XS XS PREMIUM XT TURBO XT TURBO PREMIUM
3,135 3,140 3,175 3,250 3,300

joshwastaken 07-23-2010 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 605573)
On a different not I've been thinking of getting a old diesel Mercedes...slow as balls... but baller status.

the 1981-1984 300D turbo is pretty decent once you get past the turbo lag. Be sure to have a mity-vac to troubleshoot vacuum problems or your engine won't turn off and your transmission will shift so hard it will take your fillings out.

FRT_Fun 07-23-2010 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by joshwastaken (Post 606110)
the 1981-1984 300D turbo is pretty decent once you get past the turbo lag. Be sure to have a mity-vac to troubleshoot vacuum problems or your engine won't turn off and your transmission will shift so hard it will take your fillings out.

I was looking at a 5spd 190D 2.2... which I hear is slow as ballz. But I'd want it for more of a tinkering car than anything.

Nagase 07-23-2010 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 606114)
I was looking at a 5spd 190D 2.2... which I hear is slow as ballz. But I'd want it for more of a tinkering car than anything.

The later W124 body diesels are really nice, for a driver/distance cruiser. Worlds of improvement over the earlier cars.

9671111 07-23-2010 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 605711)
LET ME CLARIFY:

I wasn't specific enough and I apologize: SOME of the 02's are a nightmare. Specifically the earlier ones.

I've seen a bunch of well running ones. But the few I've seen with problems had LOTS of problems. Researching the matter a little deeper I found out that there are a lot of people out there with "lemon" 02's. Dealerships did a good job of NOT BROADCASTING it either lol

1st model year, of course its expected.



I'm glad yours was great. I too love the bug eyes:)

Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8:D
http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img..._1998_01_s.jpg

Best Impreza IMO. Love the 22b.

NA6C-Guy 07-23-2010 05:35 PM

I would take a 22B even if it was as bad as the newer wagon. Awesome car.

joshwastaken 07-23-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 606114)
I was looking at a 5spd 190D 2.2... which I hear is slow as ballz. But I'd want it for more of a tinkering car than anything.

The best tinker car would be the W123 240D with a manual transmission. If you get the post '81 you'll get a whopping 67HP.

It's the easiest car I've ever worked on by far. The 124's drive great, but they are much more complicated and the engines are not as bulletproof.

TurboTim 07-23-2010 05:54 PM

My :2cents:
2 door impreza FTMFW. If you like tinkering you can throw a turbo on the 2.2l. I did that to my '97 outback sport (impreza wagon). Pretty awesome car, perfect daily driver. Or WRX swaps are very common and can be done when you get the funds.

My bone stock 2.5l turbo with 85k miles had a cracked exhaust valve. The PCV system is dumb IMHO.

FRT_Fun 07-23-2010 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by joshwastaken (Post 606126)
The best tinker car would be the W123 240D with a manual transmission. If you get the post '81 you'll get a whopping 67HP.

It's the easiest car I've ever worked on by far. The 124's drive great, but they are much more complicated and the engines are not as bulletproof.

Hrmm sounds tempting... I just really love the 190D body.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../W201-mopf.jpg

But this isn't too bad.

http://automobilesdeluxe.tv/wp-conte...e-1024x682.jpg


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