CPU relative speed graphs (Intel vs AMD)
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CPU relative speed graphs (Intel vs AMD)
In the old days you always used to see graphs showing how fast a 386-33 was compared to a 386-40 and how much faster a P2 was compared to a Pentium. Now it is hella difficult to find out how CPU speeds actually stack up against each other.
I have a P4 2.4GHZ and I am looking at a laptop that is powered by an AMD Sempron 3600+ 2.0GHz. I hate to admit it but I don't have a damn clue if that is faster, slower or the same. Anyone seen any good graphs/charts that show comparisons of different chips?
I have a P4 2.4GHZ and I am looking at a laptop that is powered by an AMD Sempron 3600+ 2.0GHz. I hate to admit it but I don't have a damn clue if that is faster, slower or the same. Anyone seen any good graphs/charts that show comparisons of different chips?
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While clock for clock the higher you go you do get faster, same for bus speed. At a certain point its diminishing returns for the price.
Sometimes it makes sense to get a mid level dual core, or an entry level quad because the price skyrockets with higher clock speeds and in exactly a month the price halves because a new processor came out thats faster then that one.
Makes no sense to chase the market today, especially with how damn fast mid range processors really are.
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I run a Core 2 duo...hell I don't remember the name...that runs stock at 2.16GHz (running @ 2.7 currently) that I bought a year and a half ago and it still runs everything fine (games, development stuff, it is even fast enough to decode blu-ray rips).
Right now, I'd personally go with a Core 2 Duo or an entry level quad. The price/performance ratio of these chips is amazing and unless you're doing some seriously intense work, any Core 2 in the low 2GHz range will be just fine. Seeing as how you're still running an old P4, the new system you're building/buying will offer significantly better perfomance if you buy ANY Core 2.
Right now, I'd personally go with a Core 2 Duo or an entry level quad. The price/performance ratio of these chips is amazing and unless you're doing some seriously intense work, any Core 2 in the low 2GHz range will be just fine. Seeing as how you're still running an old P4, the new system you're building/buying will offer significantly better perfomance if you buy ANY Core 2.
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It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
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Reading **** like that amazes me. My "main" desktop at home is a P4 2.4GHz Sony Vaio running XP that I bought nearly 7 years ago now.
It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
(In)Stability is rarely a hardware issue. If you loaded XP or even 2000 on the machine in your closet, it would be plenty stable as long as the parts can talk to each other.
I'm running an ancient system because it does what I need it to do. I run win 2000 because I bought a license in college for $5, and I can install it for the rest of my life. When I find a cheap/free copy of xp I'll run that.
After troubleshooting win98 and what was that other crap one, mc or something? Anyway, after dealing with stupid releases of windows, I've learned not to be an early adopter. Some of the stuff they make fails miserably, some of it fails at first and is then resurrected with patches.
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Don't forget about your other components. Even a Core 2 Extreme machine will feel noticably slower with crappy memory/hdd(s). It's not really a problem with aftermarket ram/hdds, but you have to be careful alot of times with that pre-built stuff. The extremeoverclocking.com forums have some really informative stickies for picking out a proc.
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Reading **** like that amazes me. My "main" desktop at home is a P4 2.4GHz Sony Vaio running XP that I bought nearly 7 years ago now.
It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
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As I get older, I begin to realize that it's worthless to try to stay up-to-date unless it's for bragging rights. As long as it works, **** it!
As for gaming, I've always been a pc guy but for the first time in my life last Christmas I just bought a console... The whole thing costs less than a high end graphics card anyway.
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Reading **** like that amazes me. My "main" desktop at home is a P4 2.4GHz Sony Vaio running XP that I bought nearly 7 years ago now.
It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
It has a PCI video card (128mb I think? It was the best one I could find for PCI, and yes PCI not PCI-E or AGP), an upgraded power supply (due to vid card), and is maxed out at 1G ram. There is nothing that I've not been able to do, run, or rip with this machine.
My other desktop we got a couple years ago to act as a Media Center (it has XP MCE) is some sort of AMD dual core and has 2G ram, but was less stable than my Sony, and has been sitting in a closet for 1.5 yrs now.
I totally understand that your hardware does what you need it to...hell, a year ago I was still running an Athlon XP 2600+ w/ 1.5G of DDR333. It did everything I NEEDED it to, but every task was slower on it vs. my new system. Try running SQL Server, IIS, Visual Studio 2008, playing music or a game and leaving all of those processes going when you go to do your normal web browsing/e-mail tasks and the difference will become quite apparent. For everyday, non CPU/GPU intensive stuff, anything in the last decade will work, and older hardware certainly makes a great, inexpensive file/webserver. I guess it all comes down to what you want to do and how much you want to wait. Just like your P4 works for you know and was the best price/performance at the time (assuming you bought it pre-Athlon 64), a Core 2 is the best buy now and will probably have a useable life longer than any P4 system, assuming software is kept up to date. Yeah, I'm a geek.
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Anyway, I have never been a fan of AMD, and everyone I have ever asked about an AMD hasn't been able to tell me why it is better than a pentium. The most common one is "it's better for games", however that really doesn't exactly mean anything technical.
To actually try and answer your question, I googled the processor and read a review on the first link, and came across this
The reason for its quick success is largely due to how well the Sempron matches up against Intel's Celeron processor.
If I were you I would wait for dell to have one of their stupid cheap deals on a nice intel dual core processor that actually has some processing speed and front side bus. Another thing you want to look at, especially with laptops, is the harddrive and memory speed. They like to put the slowest **** possible in them for price and power consumption reasons.
You really just need to ask yourself if you want a laptop that is quick, or a laptop that is portable.
Good luck.
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Here is a link to a speed test comparing the sempron to various processors.
http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/510/
To save you the time, it says the sempron is equally slow as the pentium 2.4 celeron (Which is a slower processor than yours, but they didn't have yours).
http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/510/
To save you the time, it says the sempron is equally slow as the pentium 2.4 celeron (Which is a slower processor than yours, but they didn't have yours).
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