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hustler 03-10-2007 10:29 PM

what tire will last longer on the track?
 
azenis or ra-1's? Whats the trade off on a grippier tire that won't slide as much

blackflag 03-10-2007 11:03 PM

azenis are not a good track tire in my opinion,they get "greasy" after a couple of laps.If you want a dedicated track tire you can't go wrong with the Ra1 shaved to 4/32 or the nitto nt01 at full tread(not sure if the nitto is available in miata friendly sizes)

If you are looking for a street/track tire you might want to check out the hankook rs2...

miataspeed1point6 03-10-2007 11:13 PM

Not sure if it will help you at all, but the RA-1 is the official Spec Miata tire.

hustler 03-11-2007 10:36 AM

i have shitty kumho ecsta 711's now, and I killed the front right after 5 sessions. There is no sense in me buying RA-1's if I'm going to kill a tire after one track day.

magnamx-5 03-11-2007 10:38 AM

G force sports FTW

Oscar 03-11-2007 11:17 AM

toyo r888's

Braineack 03-11-2007 11:18 AM

you're looking at a "DOT legal" R-compound competition tire vs. a street tire.

the Toyo will be a better track tire, bar-none.


FWIW, i got more wear on my RT-215s from one autox than from 3 track days.

y8s 03-11-2007 11:42 AM

heat cycled RA-1 will outlast azenis on the track. azenis will heat up and disintegrate.

hustler 03-11-2007 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 91235)
heat cycled RA-1 will outlast azenis on the track. azenis will heat up and disintegrate.

Thanks. I'm guessing that's what happens on street tires, and why I'm ripping through them so fast?

Can I get tires up to temp on the street, so they are heat cycled before I get to the race track?

hustler 03-11-2007 03:30 PM

will I get more than one track day out of a set of ra-1's?

jayc72 03-11-2007 03:34 PM

You don't need to heat cycle or shave ra-1s. Toyo doesn't recommend either.

hustler 03-11-2007 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 91284)
You don't need to heat cycle or shave ra-1s. Toyo doesn't recommend either.

cool.

Braineack 03-11-2007 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 91283)
will I get more than one track day out of a set of ra-1's?


yes, plenty, at least of full season, which is like 10 races, 2 days an event, with practice, qualifying and the race.

kotomile 03-11-2007 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 91267)
Can I get tires up to temp on the street, so they are heat cycled before I get to the race track?


Tirerack will heat cycle tires for you and let them cool during shipping. I did it all the time when I was running Hoosiers, but it seems the Toyos don't need it.

hustler 03-11-2007 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 91357)
yes, plenty, at least of full season, which is like 10 races, 2 days an event, with practice, qualifying and the race.

so tehy do last longer than street tires. I think I'm going to pick up a set for dedicated track use.

VRTSid 03-12-2007 03:21 PM

I agree with the greasyness statement on the azenis. I have much else to contribute...


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