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lightyear 04-30-2010 05:44 PM

What would be your ultimate miata set-up
 
Hi, just wanted to know what would be your idea of the best time attack build up? I have plenty ideas in regards to weight loss, aero, power etc. But wanted to know what you guys would build as the ultimate time attack miata if you could start from scratch.

Something like this, but in a miata.http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7...edrx701.th.jpg

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Bond 04-30-2010 05:59 PM

c6 zo6, miatas are ghey

lightyear 04-30-2010 06:00 PM

I want to go fast, not look good.

ZX-Tex 04-30-2010 06:01 PM

This
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=367430

Bond 04-30-2010 06:04 PM

lol. Ya, z06's aren't fast.

dream miata (street):

FE3
3071
6ul 9's
Custom airbag suspension

ha.

rharris19 04-30-2010 06:19 PM

I think the ultimate track miata for me is the OGK. It's about as pure as it gets.

jacob300zx 04-30-2010 06:23 PM

Ogk

spoolin2bars 04-30-2010 09:42 PM

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this:

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except with xida coilovers, and brian goodwin's cosworth itb/built n/a motor making 270whp!

flier129 04-30-2010 10:52 PM

Savington's current setup with the boost turned up, making around 350rwhp on some 275 hoo-hoos :)

Altho that v8rspec is giving me a woody.

hustler 04-30-2010 11:11 PM

Matt Andrews' car on low boost.

SlideRuler 04-30-2010 11:41 PM

let's be realistic here...

any LSD, Torsen most likely, OS Giken preferably
OEM hardtop with Lexan window
gutted trunk/shelf
Corbeau FX1 Pro seats
HDHCHTDD rollbar with harness bar and 5pt harnesses
manual steering
AC delete
airbags delete
FM2 turbokit 265rwhp
Garage Vary tails
Racing Beat Type2 bodykit
Racing Beat tubular front sway
Tein Flex or MonoFlex coilovers
Enkei 14" RPF-1 with Star Specs

Yeah, some other stuff here and there, but that's basically my goal. I have a few of those things but not enough!

miata2fast 04-30-2010 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by spoolin2bars (Post 566060)
this:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...uba44miata.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...uba45miata.jpg

except with xida coilovers, and brian goodwin's cosworth itb/built n/a motor making 270whp!

:drool: I may need a moment alone.

curly 05-01-2010 03:20 AM

Unless someone starts building a time attack car in this thread I'm moving it to the bs section.

Sliderule, your list is...lacking. Your list is pretty much my car and it's in no way a time attack car, much less my dream miata time attack car. There are a few tt miatas out there that have proven themselves worth. So that's what I'd build.

turotufas 05-01-2010 04:02 AM

My ultimate Miata setup:rolleyes:

I would commission Ferrari to build me a Miata. You know damn right. It would be epic...

Nagase 05-01-2010 06:46 AM

My ultimate Miata setup?

The one that gets me the most, cheapest track time in a series that pushes me to be a better driver.

lightyear 05-01-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 566172)
My ultimate Miata setup?

The one that gets me the most, cheapest track time in a series that pushes me to be a better driver.

That's what i have now:giggle:

My current car has 1.6, tdo4h turbo, microtech, 200whp, 15x8's, toyo r888's, carbon fibre roof and doors, stripped of a lot of weight, etc, etc. It was good enough to win the australian time attack under 3 litre mod in 2009. All up it owes me under $15,000.

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lightyear 05-01-2010 06:08 PM

What i am building soon will be something much more extreme. I pick up the new car ('99 model) in 2 weeks. I am going into a partnership with a friend who owns a performance shop. He and i are going to build 2 cars indentical. I will be doing all the carbon fibre panels and making the moulds (which will be of modified standard panels). And he will be doing the engines and turbo's etc. I can start a build log in a few weeks. We are still in the planning stage.

I am thinking of doing this
[IMG]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/882...amechassis.jpg[/IMG]
And making a crbon fibre floor.

Body like this[IMG]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7994/sgt4341.jpg[/IMG]

UrbanSoot 05-01-2010 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by lightyear (Post 566398)
What i am building soon will be something much more extreme. I pick up the new car ('99 model) in 2 weeks. I am going into a partnership with a friend who owns a performance shop. He and i are going to build 2 cars indentical. I will be doing all the carbon fibre panels and making the moulds (which will be of modified standard panels). And he will be doing the engines and turbo's etc. I can start a build log in a few weeks. We are still in the planning stage.

i might be interested in some CF body panels in few months...

Nagase 05-01-2010 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 566408)
i might be interested in some CF body panels in few months...

Yeah, totally. Was just pricing out options at autokonexions today... my paint is dead, looking for hood/trunk/mirrors/rear finish.

Rennkafer 05-01-2010 07:50 PM

Melbourne, AU is a big shipping bill just for some CF...

Ultimate Miata... I'd take Sav's car, paint the outside Twilight Blue, the inside white, and throw on my suspension.

lightyear 05-01-2010 09:15 PM

Yes, probably costs a bit for shipping.
I sell the c.f hardtops for $1450au complete with lexan window, door rubbers and laser cut brackets. About $1800au with high gloss clear and kevlar inside. They weigh 2.6kg's bare and a bit over 6kg's assembled.
The doors sell for $1300au complete with lexan window. 2.3kg's bare and about 4kg's complete with window.
All parts are made the same as autokonexian with vac infusion, and heat cured.

dustinb 05-01-2010 11:16 PM

My ultimate miata setup would have a cool air intake, NOS fogger system, and a T4 turbo system. AIC controller, direct port nitrous injection, and a standalone fuel management system.

viperormiata 05-01-2010 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 566463)
My ultimate miata setup would have a cool air intake, NOS fogger system, and a T4 turbo system. AIC controller, direct port nitrous injection, and a standalone fuel management system.

Not a bad way to spend ten thousand dollars. Lulz.

My dream setup would be:

Inside: My motor or an FM 2.0 with a tubular, cast iron manifold(I can dream): coupled with a holset hx40 or a similar sized Borg Warner(extended tip FTW!) mated to a 3-1/2" exhaust. Ford 8.8 out back with a Viper spec T56 trans.

Outside: AWR wide body, with 6ULR's or BBS RX.

One day!!!! It will be mine!

UrbanSoot 05-01-2010 11:42 PM

stroked LS7, ford 8.8 rear end w/ 3.55:1 gears, built t-56 transmission, custom tubular chassis widened by about 6" and lengthened by about 8-10", carbon fiber body, 15x9 6ul w/ 275 r-comps, penske or moton suspension, 1:1 steering.

ZX-Tex 05-01-2010 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 566159)
Unless someone starts building a time attack car in this thread I'm moving it to the bs section.

BTW the V8R car I linked to above is being built specifically for TT.

chicksdigmiatas 05-02-2010 12:42 AM

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...2-3_460x0w.jpg

It would contain that engine, with 335 width tires and a custom carbon fiber chassis. Sequential gear box, the most bad ass rear end i could find. I would enjoy the ridiculousness of this car until i crashed my half a million dollar 950 naturally aspirated miata in to a light pole at 240 mph.

Sparetire 05-02-2010 09:28 AM

Fuck T56s.

One of the Transam LSX based engines (they are destroked to about 5L, insane breathing up top) mated to a rear sequential transaxle or the normal EMCO unit. Rebodied in aluminum and CF, custom coil-overs and all, longer custom a-arms, full on flat undertray with rear diffuser, and a turbonator.

UrbanSoot 05-03-2010 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 566537)
Fuck T56s.

One of the Transam LSX based engines (they are destroked to about 5L, insane breathing up top) mated to a rear sequential transaxle or the normal EMCO unit. Rebodied in aluminum and CF, custom coil-overs and all, longer custom a-arms, full on flat undertray with rear diffuser, and a turbonator.

transaxle wont fit... not unless you get a custom one made.

Doppelgänger 05-03-2010 07:41 AM

NB chassis
20B 3-rotor
*S5 rotors
*bridge port
*GT42 turbo
JDM FD RX-7 6-spd transmission
3.9 diff w/OSG LSD

Either Ohlins or Moton coil-overs w/remove res.
RB sways
poly bushings
tubular control arms
Brembo GT brakes
17x8.5" SSR Professor SP1s
245/35-17 Hoosier A6
Garage Vary Type-N front bumper and rear bumper
AK fastback
front and rear fenders/panels replaced with fiberglass
flat bottomed
and a bunch more

....and painted Ford Grabber blue :D



I've thought about this many many many times before...

emilio700 05-13-2010 02:43 AM

OGK V2

Lots of little changes from previous build. The major changes:

2L Whammy proto engine
-Everything WPC coated
-Ceramic coated chambers/pistons/valves
-SUB's
-+1 O/S valves
-CNC ported heads
-Custom Integral cams
-BE oil pump
-Square top manifold
-60mm shaftless TB
-lightened crank (8 lbs)
- etc, etc

Kraftwerks C30-74 Rotrex at about 15psi
AEM EMS, 12-1 trigger, sequential ignition, quad EGT
Bosch 040 pump
Injector Dynamics 725cc
949 Racing Big Tube Header
949 Racing 2.5" Laguna Exhaust (might need 75mm)
Trackspeed Engineering triple pass radiator

OS Giken diff with custom tuning
Tubular control arms
Billet hubs
Dynapro 6 piston front calipers
11.75" rotors

Autokonexion fastback, lightened
GTC 300 wing
Lexan windshield
Custom FRP/Kevlar 30mm front fenders
Custom FRP/Kevlar nose
Custom FRP/Carbon hood

Racepak IQ3
20 gal fuel cell in pax seat (for enduros)
Dry break nozzle on RR quarter panel

Expecting about 320whp on race gas, 345 or so on E85. 2000 lbs dry. Will go chase ITE and Super Touring 2 cars. If I don't screw it up, it'll be the fastest Miata in the country and one of the fastest in the world. Dusty pile of parts right now, just waiting for the engine which is just about done for us to start putting it back together.

NA6C-Guy 05-13-2010 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 566488)
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...2-3_460x0w.jpg

It would contain that engine, with 335 width tires and a custom carbon fiber chassis. Sequential gear box, the most bad ass rear end i could find. I would enjoy the ridiculousness of this car until i crashed my half a million dollar 950 naturally aspirated miata in to a light pole at 240 mph.

So basically, your idea Miata would be to not have a Miata? ;)

I'm not going in to depth, but I guess my ideal realisitic result would be something like an FE with a 2860 making in the 300 range. I'd like Wilwood calipers on Corrado rotors, X10 pads for the brakes. Suspension would probably be Tein Mono Flex, FM sways, something good for a blend of road and track. Chassis would be seam welded, stripped interior, good, somewhat comfortable seats, good 5 point harness, full cage. Interior would just be the stripped interior, plus some extra gauges for the needed data, nothing fancy. Cleaned up and painted, floor in truck bed liner for noise reduction. Exterior would be something very similar to Sav's setup. Hell, just to be simple, just give me Savs car and I would be satisfied. Might change a few little things to make it my own.

turotufas 05-13-2010 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 572074)
OGK V2

Will go chase ITE and Super Touring 2 cars. If I don't screw it up, it'll be the fastest Miata in the country and one of the fastest in the world.

That parts list and this statement... I said a damn! That's badass and it will be epic like. :eek5:

Faeflora 05-13-2010 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by lightyear (Post 566397)
That's what i have now:giggle:

My current car has 1.6, tdo4h turbo, microtech, 200whp, 15x8's, toyo r888's, carbon fibre roof and doors, stripped of a lot of weight, etc, etc. It was good enough to win the australian time attack under 3 litre mod in 2009. All up it owes me under $15,000.

???????????? what is that?

Sparetire 05-13-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by turotufas (Post 572090)
That parts list and this statement... I said a damn! That's badass and it will be epic like. :eek5:

And unlike my crap-pipe dream of a car its actually a Miata too. Pretty sweet.:drool:

NA6C-Guy 05-13-2010 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 572289)
???????????? what is that?

Seriously, or is that sarcasm? It's an alternative standalone computer, popular with rotary guys.

lightyear 05-13-2010 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 572074)
OGK V2
Expecting about 320whp on race gas, 345 or so on E85. 2000 lbs dry. Will go chase ITE and Super Touring 2 cars. If I don't screw it up, it'll be the fastest Miata in the country and one of the fastest in the world. Dusty pile of parts right now, just waiting for the engine which is just about done for us to start putting it back together.

And what wheels and tyres would you be running?????????

samnavy 05-13-2010 11:55 PM

Threads like this never really seem to accomplish anything. "If your dick could be any size... how long would it be?" Seems like an easy question to answer until your wife/girlfriend explains exactly in great detail how bad a choice your new 12" cock is.

Could I put a blank check in the mail, send it to Emilio, and say I wanted him to build me the fastest time-attack Miata in the world... would what he built for me be the exact list he made above... or with an unlimited budget would he go a different route? Could I get the fastest time-attack car in the world starting with a Miata shell and a blank check... or just the fastest t-a Miata?

With enough money, you could build anything that would beat anything. If you're gonna completely strip it down and rebuild every component into a dedicated racecar using only the shell of the original, why start with a Miata?

If this thread wants to accomplish something, there needs to be a much clearer goal from the OP and a budget... otherwise, we all get 12" cocks.

Bond 05-14-2010 12:15 AM

Mine is only 7 inches

emilio700 05-14-2010 02:31 AM

If I was building a UTCC/SLB/RTA unlimited car with unlimited funds:
I'd hack away every part of the tub the rules allow and build tubular subframes, pushrod suspension, move the engine back about 12" and put a Rotrex powered 2.3L Cosworth MZR. Carbon body. Probably something like 17x9 255/40 front and 17x11 315/35 rear. Xtrac sequential. Maybe cost something like $200K when it was done and be a stupid waste of time and money. If I had unlimited funds to build an Unltd RWD TA car, I'd probably buy a C6R, semi rig and a few overpaid engineers to keep it all tuned and shiny. I wouldn't care if I got beat because I'd be driving a C6R.

I can almost see building a UTCC/SLB/RTA Modified class car but frankly, I just don't care enough. Endurance racing is the pinnacle of motorsport. The fact that us normal guys can go do it is fantastic. The door is wide open for someone to build super fast Miata endurance racer.

The rules in UTCC/SLB/RTA are all heavily biased towards monster HP builds. There isn't any place for a well balanced, agile lightweight sports car unless it also has like 450whp. That's a shame as I think a lot more amateurs and shop teams would get involved if the TA regs would place some useful limitations on HP for some classes.


Originally Posted by lightyear (Post 572503)
And what wheels and tyres would you be running?????????

9's and NT01's as usual.

lightyear 05-14-2010 05:22 AM

[QUOTE=samnavy;572642]Threads like this never really seem to accomplish anything. "If your dick could be any size... how long would it be?" Seems like an easy question to answer until your wife/girlfriend ?

A friend who owns a performance shop and myself are building 2 identical time attack cars. They are going to be built on a low budget - hopefully under $20,000. They will be completely carbon fibre clad by me, with work going into aero. And he is doing the engine work, fabrication of manifolds and turbo gear, etc. I was just wanting the opinion of others that have a lot more experience with miata's than we have. He knows nothing about them, and i know only what i have done on mine. We just want to go out and run really fast lap times in a pair of little miata's, and show up some of the "fast" guys over here in there porches and evo's, etc.

jacob300zx 05-14-2010 12:07 PM

Changed my mind, OGK ver2


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