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Rafa 02-06-2009 12:27 PM

What's your monthly home energy bill?
 
As some of you know I live in the Caribbean. One of the bad things of living in third world countries is how inefficient things are.

We're involved in a discussion on this subject here and I would like to get some answers from those who have homes and have 4 or more people living in that home over there.

In my particular case; I use an average of 1,100 kwh per month and my cost per kwh is: US$0.2381 per Kwh.

I'd like to get some input from different areas within the US (I've already contacted people in Spain and other Latin American countries).

This question is not so much what yor monthly energy bill is but more what you pay per kwh and how many kwh/month you use.

Thanks

96rdstr 02-06-2009 01:17 PM

Tampa- Tampa Electric :ky:

Energy
kwh-5.257 cents per kwh(rate increase in May to 6.055)
May increase for anything over 1000kwh- 7.055

Fuel
1000kwh-6.416 per KWH
over 1000kwh-7.416 per KWH

My electric bill for December was 220.00.
I do not have gas, and I do not have a pool.
2683sf-2100sf conditioned

NA6C-Guy 02-06-2009 01:22 PM

Too much. Not exactly sure right off hand of the exact rates though.

ChuckyZ 02-06-2009 01:33 PM

Houston, Tx. Flat rate of 13.9 kw/h, Stream Energy. Usual around here is 12.9-16.9

levnubhin 02-06-2009 01:35 PM

Im always in the $300 neighborhood. 3/2 with a pool.
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Rafa 02-06-2009 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by 96rdstr (Post 364423)
Tampa- Tampa Electric :ky:

Energy
kwh-5.257 cents per kwh(rate increase in May to 6.055)
May increase for anything over 1000kwh- 7.055

Fuel
1000kwh-6.416 per KWH
over 1000kwh-7.416 per KWH

My electric bill for December was 220.00.
I do not have gas, and I do not have a pool.
2683sf-2100sf conditioned

Thanks man!

I'm I reading your info right? Do you use over 2,500 kwh/month? I ask because part of the local argument is that the electric meters are tricked but if I understand you correctly, your consumption is more than double mine.

I presume a big chunk of the difference between the kwhs/month used by you and those used by me must be due to the fact that we only use 1 A/C (a 24,000 BTU unit on my bedroom) and only for 9 hours a day.

Rafa 02-06-2009 01:51 PM

Guys, I know it's a hassle and I do appreciate your replies but I also need to get a sense of Kwh/month consumption. Whenever you get the chance to check your bill; just think about this thread!

The biggest issue locally is not the fact that our current energy rate is highway robbery but how does our local Kwh/month consumption compare to that of other countries.

Thanks

Rafa 02-06-2009 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by ChuckyZ (Post 364435)
Houston, Tx. Flat rate of 13.9 kw/h, Stream Energy. Usual around here is 12.9-16.9


I'm surprised by how big is the difference in rates between you guys and Fl. Wow!


Sorry to ask but; what's Stream Energy? (is it the name of the company that provides your service?)

Thanks

Turbo_4 02-06-2009 02:18 PM

120-180 bucks with 14.3 cents a kw.

dc2696 02-06-2009 02:27 PM

My power bill is usually 50bux a month..No pool lol

ChuckyZ 02-06-2009 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 364448)
I'm surprised by how big is the difference in rates between you guys and Fl. Wow!


Sorry to ask but; what's Stream Energy? (is it the name of the company that provides your service?)

Thanks

Stream Energy is the provider. They just sell the energy the actual company that supplies it is Centerpoint.

ChuckyZ 02-06-2009 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 364445)
Guys, I know it's a hassle and I do appreciate your replies but I also need to get a sense of Kwh/month consumption. Whenever you get the chance to check your bill; just think about this thread!

The biggest issue locally is not the fact that our current energy rate is highway robbery but how does our local Kwh/month consumption compare to that of other countries.

Thanks

Don't know if this helps since i'm in an apartment. It a 1200sq ft apartment, energy star certified or whatever that means. 1100 max during summer 550 low during winter. Unless you are without power for 3 weeks because of a damn huricane then its 280.:bang:

kotomile 02-06-2009 03:07 PM

$0, Uncle Sam picks up the tab.

patsmx5 02-06-2009 03:29 PM

Don't have the bill in front of me, but I average 450 kw*hrs per month with electric HW heater, electric heat, no gas, 540 sq. foot house, no incandescent lighting. I live cheap.

96rdstr 02-06-2009 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 364443)
Thanks man!

I'm I reading your info right? Do you use over 2,500 kwh/month? I ask because part of the local argument is that the electric meters are tricked but if I understand you correctly, your consumption is more than double mine.



I presume a big chunk of the difference between the kwhs/month used by you and those used by me must be due to the fact that we only use 1 A/C (a 24,000 BTU unit on my bedroom) and only for 9 hours a day.

It usually hovers around 1750kwh per month.

We have a big, 15 seer heat pump outside. My Trane A/C system is only 1.5 years old. I cant remember the tonnage, but it is about 5ft tall. Based on my energy audits it accounts for 52.9% of my electric cost.

Rafa 02-06-2009 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 364494)
$0, Uncle Sam picks up the tab.

lol koto! There's plenty of local guys who don't pay their tab but it's not due to Uncle Sam.

Rafa 02-06-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by ChuckyZ (Post 364492)
Don't know if this helps since i'm in an apartment. It a 1200sq ft apartment, energy star certified or whatever that means. 1100 max during summer 550 low during winter. Unless you are without power for 3 weeks because of a damn huricane then its 280.:bang:

It sure helps. Can anyone convert the 1200sq ft to square meters. I have a 330 square meters apartment myself and as I posted before I average about 1,100 kwh/month.

Rafa 02-06-2009 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 364502)
Don't have the bill in front of me, but I average 450 kw*hrs per month with electric HW heater, electric heat, no gas, 540 sq. foot house, no incandescent lighting. I live cheap.

Pat; those 450 kwhs/month is for you living on your own? Because if that is the case, I beat your cheapness. :giggle:

Stein 02-06-2009 04:15 PM

Average electric rates for the US by state:

Electric Power Monthly - Average Retail Price of Electricity to Ultimate Customers by End-Use Sector, by State

We are way down in the bottom 10% of the US with sub-$.08/kwh rates.:)

patsmx5 02-06-2009 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 364523)
Pat; those 450 kwhs/month is for you living on your own? Because if that is the case, I beat your cheapness. :giggle:

Damn. Yeah, that's me living on my own. I say average. I run 350-400 kw*h /month in the spring and fall. Summer 400-450, winter 500-550. Average is around 450, maybe a bit lower. I swear I think my stereo system is sucking down 100 kw*h/month. My consumption used to be lower. Also, do you have electric heat and hot water heater?

Also 1 square meter = 10.76 square feet. So you live in a a 3229 square foot apartment and use less power than me? :eek5::eek5::eek5:

Trent 02-06-2009 06:22 PM

I used 514 kw/h last month. My bill was $41.17. So that's about $0.08/kwh.

I live by myself in a 900 sq ft home with central A/C, gas range, gas central heat, and gas water heater.

My gas bill was $44.00 last month with a "consumption" of 28 (no units listed).

fmowry 02-06-2009 06:41 PM

3300 kilowatts last month. Almost $500 bill. Close to $0.12 kw/h her in MD.

Big house, dual heatpumps, friggin' 22 degrees average last month. I do think one of my pumps is malfunctioning. I need to get the guy out here.

Frank

Rafa 02-06-2009 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 364531)
Damn. Yeah, that's me living on my own. I say average. I run 350-400 kw*h /month in the spring and fall. Summer 400-450, winter 500-550. Average is around 450, maybe a bit lower. I swear I think my stereo system is sucking down 100 kw*h/month. My consumption used to be lower. Also, do you have electric heat and hot water heater?

Also 1 square meter = 10.76 square feet. So you live in a a 3229 square foot apartment and use less power than me? :eek5::eek5::eek5:

No, I use around 1,100 kwh/month but there's 4 of us living here. But, basically, I do use less power than you :giggle:

Heat is only to heat the water and it's gas based. I use a gas heater for showering which is what's used in Europe. The great advantage is that I only consume gas when I turn on the hot faucet. And we also use stoves based on gas and not electricity like in the States.

No central A/C in these parts of the world. Ceiling fans ftw! I do use a 24,000btu A/C about 9 hours a day on average.

Rafa 02-06-2009 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by fmowry (Post 364618)
3300 kilowatts last month. Almost $500 bill. Close to $0.12 kw/h her in MD.

Big house, dual heatpumps, friggin' 22 degrees average last month. I do think one of my pumps is malfunctioning. I need to get the guy out here.

Frank

Frank; maybe you should check this site: Power-Save Energy Corp.- Save Energy, reduce electric bills, power save, save power, power-save, , low electric bills, lower electric bill, lower, electric, bill, lower heating bill

I bought and installed 1 of their units more than a year ago and it has made a difference in my kwh consumption.

Rafa 02-06-2009 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 364529)
Average electric rates for the US by state:

Electric Power Monthly - Average Retail Price of Electricity to Ultimate Customers by End-Use Sector, by State

We are way down in the bottom 10% of the US with sub-$.08/kwh rates.:)

Great link Stein. Many, many thanks! :bowdown:

patsmx5 02-06-2009 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 364629)
No, I use around 1,100 kwh/month but there's 4 of us living here. But, basically, I do use less power than you :giggle:

Heat is only to heat the water and it's gas based. I use a gas heater for showering which is what's used in Europe. The great advantage is that I only consume gas when I turn on the hot faucet. And we also use stoves based on gas and not electricity like in the States.

No central A/C in these parts of the world. Ceiling fans ftw! I do use a 24,000btu A/C about 9 hours a day on average.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I have my hot water heater in my kitchen. So any energy it uses to produce heat that radiates out just heats my house. I'm guessing your got that fancy on demand one. Those are nice.

When I did a small remodel on this house I stuffed R19 in all the walls we exposed, it's sitting on a 10" thick slab, and I have 28" of blown insulation in the attic. My bedroom has new double pane windows too I got on clearance for $88 bucks. And I only heat my room in the winter. One heater on 500W keeps it toasty most of the time. Got a 14,000 BTU window unit in the living room that keeps the entire house cool in the summer. Probably runs 9 hours a day as well. Ceiling fan in every room of the house. Still cheaper than living on campus and I have no roommate. So I can't complain.

Rafa 02-06-2009 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 364633)
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I have my hot water heater in my kitchen. So any energy it uses to produce heat that radiates out just heats my house. I'm guessing your got that fancy on demand one. Those are nice.

When I did a small remodel on this house I stuffed R19 in all the walls we exposed, it's sitting on a 10" thick slab, and I have 28" of blown insulation in the attic. My bedroom has new double pane windows too I got on clearance for $88 bucks. And I only heat my room in the winter. One heater on 500W keeps it toasty most of the time. Got a 14,000 BTU window unit in the living room that keeps the entire house cool in the summer. Probably runs 9 hours a day as well. Ceiling fan in every room of the house. Still cheaper than living on campus and I have no roommate. So I can't complain.


A problem with local building methods is that we use cement blocks instead of the frames used in the States. It works perfectly in case of hurricanes but there's no insulation and the roof transfers too much heat inside (I live in the last floor).

About the water heater; no it's not a fancy one. I'll try to get a pic and show you. Everyone uses it in Europe. They are as cheap as it gets. First time I used one was at my parents' apartment in Madrid way back when I was a teenager. :)

BTW, I like the fact that you're straightforward and call them as you see them :bigtu:

Ben 02-06-2009 07:46 PM

Flipped through a year's worth of bills. Looks like I pay $.09 per kw/h and use 800 to 1500 kw/h per month, depending on climate. Though I did find a bill from 07 for 2100 kw/h which was just under $200 with tax. Average monthly power bill is probably $125 or so. I do not have gas, house is all electric. In fall, early winter I pay only around $70 per month as I have a heat pump. However when it gets really cold out the electric heater comes on and that costs as much, if not more, to run as the a\c.

Mach929 02-06-2009 07:59 PM

i still haven't gotten my first bill, i'm a little scared as it's been damn cold since we've moved in and i've ripped apart the bathroom so it has no insulation, and i have 63 year old windows throughout:eek5:

Joe Perez 02-06-2009 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 364641)
A problem with local building methods is that we use cement blocks instead of the frames used in the States. It works perfectly in case of hurricanes but there's no insulation

It is the same in Florida. Having grown up here, I was shocked when I learned that most homes are constructed simply by nailing bits of wood together. Doesn't seem very solid to me. :D

When I lived in Carlsbad CA, my electric bill was typically around $25 per month. That was for an 800 square foot first-floor apartment. I never used the heater or A/C at all.

In Florida, I seem to recall that the bills have been in the $50 range. Large house, but I only turn on the A/C occasionally, and never the heater.

Unfortunately, I don't have records with me of what the actual kw/h consumption was.

Rafa 02-06-2009 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 364650)
Flipped through a year's worth of bills. Looks like I pay $.09 per kw/h and use 800 to 1500 kw/h per month, depending on climate. Though I did find a bill from 07 for 2100 kw/h which was just under $200 with tax. Average monthly power bill is probably $125 or so. I do not have gas, house is all electric. In fall, early winter I pay only around $70 per month as I have a heat pump. However when it gets really cold out the electric heater comes on and that costs as much, if not more, to run as the a\c.

Ben, I'm really impressed by your kwh/month consumption. In fact, it's quite similar to mine. My consumption goes down to around 800 kwh/month from December to March and as the weather gets hotter and hotter it goes up to 1,200 kwh/month in the summertime.

I'm also impressed by the fact that your house doesn't have any gas appliances and you still manage to keep the total Kws used pretty low.

fmowry 02-07-2009 07:39 AM

I'll have to check out that power-save. My house is all electric but we're getting a propane fireplace insert to supplement the heat in the living room area.

Thanks for the link.

Frank

Rafa 02-07-2009 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by fmowry (Post 364811)
I'll have to check out that power-save. My house is all electric but we're getting a propane fireplace insert to supplement the heat in the living room area.

Thanks for the link.

Frank

FWIW, I was so impressed with what happened in my house that I talked 2 friends into buying their own. Since their consumption was higher than mine; they had better results. I bought their $299 unit.

l_bader 02-08-2009 07:40 PM

Rafa -

I'll have to check the rates per Kwh and cubic-ft, but Jan's bills were $63 for electric and $54 for natural gas. Water heater and interior heat are gas, all other power consumption is electric. The house is ~2600 sq/ft, 5yrs old, 4-bdrm w/2 adults and 2 teens within.

- L

r808 02-09-2009 12:15 PM

Last month was $0.237 per KWH.
Down from September 08, which was $0.346 per KWH.
Holy crap I need to get solar panels or something.

xturner 02-09-2009 12:22 PM

$0.187 per kWh, about 650 kW last month for around $120 - that's just lights, fridge and elctronics. Heat and hot water are oil.

Rafa 02-09-2009 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by r808 (Post 365753)
Last month was $0.237 per KWH.
Down from September 08, which was $0.346 per KWH.
Holy crap I need to get solar panels or something.

You must have some figures wrong or maybe you don't live in the States?

I can't think of anyone who lives anywhere in the World who pays around 34 cents per kwh. Could you please doublecheck that?

Thanks

IcantDo55 02-09-2009 07:23 PM

$320 last month at home
$3349 last month at bar! Ouch!

wayne_curr 02-09-2009 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by supersaiyan93 (Post 364607)
I used 514 kw/h last month. My bill was $41.17. So that's about $0.08/kwh.

I live by myself in a 900 sq ft home with central A/C, gas range, gas central heat, and gas water heater.

My gas bill was $44.00 last month with a "consumption" of 28 (no units listed).

Our house is about the same cept maybe 1100ft^2 and our gas bill is consistantly 90 bucks a month in the winter. Shitty gas furnace in one room (not central, I hate it), gas range and gas water heater.

Electric is like 20-30 bucks a month in the winter.

Rafa 02-10-2009 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 366014)
$320 last month at home
$3349 last month at bar! Ouch!

Ouch is right. Check out this site: Power-Save Energy Corp.- Save Energy, reduce electric bills, power save, save power, power-save, , low electric bills, lower electric bill, lower, electric, bill, lower heating bill

nester 02-11-2009 06:09 PM

1100 sq ft apartment..

From 11/25 - 12/30:
529 KWH
Avg Outside Temp: 67
Daily Usage: 15
(I was out of town from 12/20-12/30 for this period)


From 12/31 - 1/28:
586 KWH
Avg Outside Temp: 67
Daily Usage: 20
(I was out of town from 12/31-1/3 for this period)

I'm paying 14.9 cents per kwh, compared to kentucky where I was paying 6.4 cpkwh. GAY.

Rafa 02-11-2009 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by nester (Post 367116)
1100 sq ft apartment..

From 11/25 - 12/30:
529 KWH
Avg Outside Temp: 67
Daily Usage: 15
(I was out of town from 12/20-12/30 for this period)


From 12/31 - 1/28:
586 KWH
Avg Outside Temp: 67
Daily Usage: 20
(I was out of town from 12/31-1/3 for this period)

I'm paying 14.9 cents per kwh, compared to kentucky where I was paying 6.4 cpkwh. GAY.

Thanks for that info nester. BTW; that's a high rate!

dc2696 02-11-2009 09:12 PM

910sq/ft apartment-
213 kWh
67kwh @ 9.956cents
146 @ 11.863cents

Actual power useage = 26.93

Distribution charges = $22.72 + taxes = $52.13

Mach929 02-11-2009 09:17 PM

well i got my first peco bill for a half months service

total bill $211.42, electric 33.09, gas 172.33, other charges 6.00.

gas $1.37 /ccf
electric .1488/kw


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