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JasonC SBB 09-10-2012 12:05 AM

Why is there no downtempo/chill/trip hop on FM?
 
I know a lot of people who like down tempo, and a lot of restaurants play it. Why is it nonexistent on FM? Other than 1 college, 1 jazz, 1 classical, and 1 classic rock station, FM is just full of pop and hip hop crap.

18psi 09-10-2012 12:07 AM

Let me guess: you're over 50?

Savington 09-10-2012 12:34 AM

Why in the hell do you still listen to FM radio?

JasonC SBB 09-10-2012 01:14 AM

I had a rental car for a bit.
No, I'm not over 50. Do only >50 people hate what's on FM?

Mobius 09-10-2012 01:18 AM

Since Pandora (among many) gives you the option to listen to any genre you want, who is listening to FM.

Savington 09-10-2012 01:20 AM

Having been a satellite radio subscriber for 3+ years now, I cannot fathom owning a vehicle without Sirius/XM radio at this point.

Bryce 09-10-2012 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 925003)
Having been a satellite radio subscriber for 3+ years now, I cannot fathom owning a vehicle without Sirius/XM radio at this point.

This!

Radio stations only play popular music because that's what more people will listen to. Advertisers will pay more if more people hear their ads.

Chill is just not as popular as Rock/Country/Rap.

Some college stations play a more eclectic mix. I used to listen to Rice university's station allot, before I got satellite/Pandora.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-10-2012 01:25 AM

Npr

fmowry 09-10-2012 06:27 AM

Aside from my initials, what is this FM you speak of? 44 and had Sirius and an aux input for years now.

thenuge26 09-10-2012 08:10 AM

What is this "radio" you guys speak of? Is that like where you attach an antenna to your TV?

18psi 09-10-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 925001)
No, I'm not over 50. Do only >50 people hate what's on FM?

Basically what everyone else is saying: by now only old people and young broke kids either haven't discovered, or are too broke to afford other means of streaming music.

Braineack 09-10-2012 08:21 AM

I still listen to FM.

I wonder why there's no 80s or good rock channels.


So I listen to Sean Hannity.

18psi 09-10-2012 08:24 AM

They recycle about 10 songs all day long on the popular FM stations. Most of which are terrible. Its truly garbage. Only time I use FM radio these days is to listen to morning talk shows on my way to work, about 2 of which are still decent and don't totally suck. Interestingly talk shows keep me awake much better than music at 4am..

Just invest a couple hundo in a modern headunit.

thenuge26 09-10-2012 08:36 AM

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JasonC SBB 09-10-2012 12:05 PM

My question isn't "how do I listen to the music I like".

It's "how can there be 20 stations of the same crap and they all make money and none make money playing downtempo"?

I guess a related statement would be: I suspect that the music on FM does NOT represent the actual spectrum of the distribution of musical tastes of the population. e.g. 95% of FM is pop/hip hop, but only 70% of the population like it.

I remember Joe's fascinating thread about that company that developed a system to determine what type of music listeners actually listen to, and there was a lot less hip hop listening than surveys showed. I wonder if hip hop is still over-represented.

JasonC SBB 09-10-2012 12:06 PM

How many of you guys use internet streaming while driving?
(Right now I mostly fill up a USB stick with music I like and listen to that while driving)

BTW I am a paying subscriber to both Pandora and Grooveshark (which predates Spotify).

Braineack 09-10-2012 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 925106)
My question isn't "how do I listen to the music I like"...

how does radio make money at all? why are people still advertising on it?

I have an 80GB ipod...

hustler 09-10-2012 12:57 PM

I am a total whore to DT/NuJazz/Acid Jazz/Electro-Lounge/Electro Jazz. Some of my favorite artists/comp albums:
Lounge Meets Jazz
Momma Gravy
Tosca
Lemon Jelly
Bullitnuts
Beanfield
K&D
Louise Vertigo (owns my life right now)
Mr. Scruff
DJ Smash
Jazzhole
Future Jazz Cafe ***
Yonderboi
Yoshinori Sunahara (awesome, obsessed with airports)

hustler 09-10-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 925107)
How many of you guys use internet streaming while driving?
(Right now I mostly fill up a USB stick with music I like and listen to that while driving)

BTW I am a paying subscriber to both Pandora and Grooveshark (which predates Spotify).

Spotify has a shockingly-rich library for this kind of music. I also listen to Dogglounge Radio on the phone.

Braineack 09-10-2012 01:23 PM

LIQuID METAL!!!!!!11111

Scrappy Jack 09-10-2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 925107)
How many of you guys use internet streaming while driving?
(Right now I mostly fill up a USB stick with music I like and listen to that while driving)

BTW I am a paying subscriber to both Pandora and Grooveshark (which predates Spotify).

NPR 50% of the time, Pandora 40% of the time, Spotify Radio 10% of the time (via aux in and my iPhone). That's for my daily commute of about 15 minutes each way in the morning and evening, Monday - Friday.

On a road trip or weekend driving, it's more like 80% Pandora, 20% Spotify Radio. I haven't subscribed to Spotify Premium in order to access the playlists I assembled on the desktop simply because I don't spend enough time in front of my personal desktop to assemble enough lists to not get bored with music.

Pandora radio is much better than Spotify radio. If I was in front of a desktop where I could spend more time building playlists, I would use Spotify more. They really have a robust catalog of music and I can almost always find whatever I am looking for - and I have some ecclectic musical tastes (with playlist titles like Nerd Rap, Exotica Lounge, Beach Music and the Justified Mix).


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 925138)
I am a total whore to DT/NuJazz/Acid Jazz/Electro-Lounge/Electro Jazz. Some of my favorite artists/comp albums:

:bigtu: Awesome; I look forward to checking those out.

Saml01 09-10-2012 01:45 PM

Pandora 100% of the time in my wifes car and Sirius 100% of the time in my car. However, I am starting to find that even Sirius is beginning to replay a lot of the same stuff on a given channel and I like my music to vary. This is why I like quick mix on Pandora and upset sirius cannot do the same.

thenuge26 09-10-2012 01:46 PM

I was sad when my headphone jack on my phone died, as I quite liked streaming my google music songs that would not fit on my microsd card.

But now I have a $20 mp3 player loaded up with 4 gigs of Umphrey's McGee, which will hopefully last me until I get a new phone. Sidenote: even though they are a liberal hippy jam band, you might like there newer stuff which is more like that crazy club music all the kids are listening too.

Scrappy Jack 09-10-2012 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 925180)
Sidenote: even though they are a liberal hippy jam band, you might like there newer stuff which is more like that crazy club music all the kids are listening too.

"unce-unce-unce" club music or "WUB!WUB!WUB!" club music?


Also, we have satellite in my wife's car. She does a lot of driving and spends virtually zero time in front of a computer for personal use.

Savington 09-10-2012 02:22 PM

I could never, ever rely on an internet-streaming service for music in the car because I drive through places that don't even have consistent wireless service, let alone 3G/4G.

thenuge26 09-10-2012 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 925202)
"unce-unce-unce" club music or "WUB!WUB!WUB!" club music?

There are 2 different kinds?

soviet 09-10-2012 02:57 PM

You guys have stereos in your car? I'm shocked...

Actually, in the jeep I just wired an aux-in inline with the CD player. And then I listen to bunch of EDM podcasts that download on my phone automatically....

Google Listen or any Ipod FTW.

Braineack 09-10-2012 03:18 PM

I have a subwoofer and components in mine...

JasonC SBB 09-10-2012 03:28 PM

hustler:

Check out Bonobo and Caribou. Lemme know if you like 'em.

hustler 09-10-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 925251)
hustler:

Check out Bonobo and Caribou. Lemme know if you like 'em.

Bonobo and Caribou are okay, Ilike a little more "happiness" in music so I pick-and-choose among those two.

hustler 09-10-2012 06:28 PM

Other shit I think you gays should check out if you like this genre (specific songs and bands):
De Phazz
Deadbeats
Elak - Remember Me
Jaffa (an all-time favorite) Do it again, Elevator, Star 67, Legz, Fila's Evelvator Remix on Cassagrande Lounge
Count Basic
Leggo Beast - Petite (all their shit is awesome)
Pork 100 (album)

I can keep going. I have a massive collection of this stuff.

EO2K 09-10-2012 06:48 PM

In my experience, its due to the facts that most people:
  1. lack the technological sophistication to access free internet music sources
  2. can't afford smartphone/data plan to stream audio from said sources
  3. don't/can't buy music online
  4. don't buy music CDs at the store
  5. don't know how to pirate music
  6. feel they need to listen to Top40 HIP-HOP to stay in touch with their peer group.

The other issue is radio conglomerates like CLEAR CHANNEL buying up stations and forcing the Hip-hop/Country down our throats. Out where I live, there are no more independent stations. I literally almost WEPT when I heard that ClearChannel purchased KPIG.

In short:

Pitlab77 09-10-2012 07:57 PM

31. Hate the music on the radio. Mostly listen to Sport talk, political talk, news on AM.

I'm just gotten into renting audio books from the public library via the internet and if I had a way to plug my ipod into the headunit I would listen to that.

phillyb 09-11-2012 12:45 PM

there was an awesome college station from wilkes university a while ago that only played metal and some really weird alt rock shit.
now it's mainly hip hop. not the shit you hear on the radio, but i liked it more before the switch.
now it's just a station that i used to listen to

vehicular 09-11-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 925208)
I could never, ever rely on an internet-streaming service for music in the car because I drive through places that don't even have consistent wireless service, let alone 3G/4G.

I abhor FM radio, but have terribly inconsistent 4G on my commute, so it's totally worth the $10/ month to have Spotify Plus and playlists on my phone.


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