Wireless surround speakers (conventional home-theater application.)
Consumer electronics crew:
I wish to place my two (unpowered) rear surround speakers in locations which are not easily accessible by direct-wire path to the receiver. Each location has access to AC power. There is also not a convenient wire path between the two speaker locations. The ideal solution would consist of a wireless transmitter which is located up front and accepts speaker-level inputs from the receiver, and two discrete receivers, one per speaker, consisting of a wireless receiver and a power amplifier cable of driving a rear-channel speaker. 20w RMS is probably more than enough. Thus far, the ONLY solution which I have found is this: Make your rear speakers wireless with Amphony's Speaker Kit, Model 1800 Reviews on Amazon consist mostly of "It's cheaply-made Chinese garbage, but it works and is pretty much the only thing available." Any thoughts? |
The only thing I've seen in this regard that is "nice and works well" is to buy a dedicated setup.
I'm having the same issue with the house I bought and how I'm going to properly get the two surrounds wired up without it looking like garbage. http://www.klipsch.com/products/the-sixes for example. |
Originally Posted by z31maniac
(Post 1475230)
The Sixes | Powered Bookshelf Speakers | Klipsch for example.
1: They presuppose a Bluetooth source. My audio source is the analog, speaker-level output of a typical home-theater receiver. I can convert it to line-level easily, but not to Bluetooth. 2: They contain the amplifiers for both speakers in a single cabinet, requiring that a wire be run between the two speakers. That's fine for the Alesis powered monitors I have in my office, more of a problem when there's a huge kitchen in between the left and right sides of the rear of my living room. The thing which irritates me is that I have all sorts of gear at work that would solve this problem easily, but I don't want to spend $3,000 getting it done. And I know little about consumer electronics. |
Wireless speakers are severely bitrate limited. I run wires no matter what.
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007
(Post 1475238)
Wireless speakers are severely bitrate limited. I run wires no matter what.
2 channel digital audio at 16 bit, 44.1 Khz (the "broadcast quality" / CD-Audio format) takes a little under 150 kb/s uncompressed. This has been achievable over short-range wireless since the 1980s. Add to which, these are rear-channel speakers. No dialogue, just the occasional "Boom / Zap." This is why I'm entertaining the notion of cheaply made Chinese products. |
Since you have power available I was thinking of something like this but for conventional audio signals instead. But I haven't found it yet.
Edit: Here's a faster one. NETGEAR PowerLINE 1000 Mbps, 1 Gigabit Port with Pass-Through, Extra Outlet (PLP1000-100PAS) https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1350_.jpg
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1475270)
Since you have power available I was thinking of something like this but for conventional audio signals instead. But I haven't found it yet.
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Yup, lots of stuff on the market for installed audio (switches in wall plates, multi-room control), and lots of stuff which assumes that a computer-like device is the source of audio.
Literally only one solution I've found thus far assumes that an analog signal is the source, and an un-powered speaker is the destination. I already have ethernet everywhere I want it, I literally just need to put an air-gap inline with two speaker cables. |
Other than a separate FM modulator and then a receiver amplifier at each speaker, got nothing for you
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Seriously, Joe should be buying some NRF24L01+ modules and a couple of raspberry pis and coding some way to push it over the air in realtime.
no? |
Haha. Seriously, I'm looking for a product, not a project here. If I wanted to build something, I'd just stay analog in UHF block 20 or 21.
(Nice idea you sent me in Gchat tho, y8s.) |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 1475289)
Seriously, Joe should be buying some NRF24L01+ modules and a couple of raspberry pis and coding some way to push it over the air in realtime.
no? |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1475295)
Only if it involves replacing the central heating with a gokart radiator at the same time
Nah, in this condo I pay for gas and electricity. Only (cold) water is free. Guess I could use cold water to spin a turbine... :giggle: |
im guessing its not much different than the amphony, but:
also: Top 5 Best wireless speaker transmitter receiver kit for sale 2017 : Product : BOOMSbeat and you can also buy line-level to Bluetooth dongles if that works for you. |
I go through the homework on this once a year or so... some friend of mine knows I'm into such things and asks this exact question. My only answer, based on a couple decades of trying to find one, is "don't bother, instead, invest money in a better front soundstage."
A properly placed L/C/R, plus a tuned sub, AND some bass shakers in the couch, can make up a lot to compensate for a lack of rears. |
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1475299)
im guessing its not much different than the amphony, but:
https://www.amazon.com/Soundcast-Sur.../dp/B003F7R7SI
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1475299)
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1475299)
and you can also buy line-level to Bluetooth dongles if that works for you.
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 1475304)
I go through the homework on this once a year or so... some friend of mine knows I'm into such things and asks this exact question. My only answer, based on a couple decades of trying to find one, is "don't bother, instead, invest money in a better front soundstage."
But, in all seriousness, there are some films that are mastered in such a way that the absence of the rear channels is really annoying. |
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