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Old 02-10-2015, 07:20 PM
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I need to unsub this thread in a serious way.
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I feel the same, and yet... I can't.
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This won't help... absolute cheapest I have ever seen a forged stripped lower. Anderson Manufacturing 2pk for $38.25ea shipped. AM makes good lowers, great reputation, always to spec.

Anderson AR-15 Stripped Lower Receiver - 2 Pack - $76.49 shipped after coupon "10off" | Slickguns
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Originally Posted by usd2bfst
I have piles of 9mm reloads & only a Blackhawk to shoot them in right now. I'm in the market for a new 9mm CCW, what do you guys have that you like? I've had a XD Compact 9 & I don't like the high bore axis (prefer Glock in this regard), and I've had a M&P9c which was nice but I shoot a G19 a lot better. I'm tempted to look at the new LCR 9mm since I'm a revolver guy, but I should probably just get a G19. Only shopping because there are a lot of new single stack 9s that are nice for EDC.
I EDC a G19 in winter, G26 in Summer. For some reason I'm more accurate with the G26
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:07 AM
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I'd like to say that the $85 brake is the best upgrade for my or any M44, ever.


still blinding, but much better control.
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Just ordered a Sig P226 Extreme in .40

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Ughhh. Ordering custom big ammo sucks. Waiting 4-8 weeks is no fun.
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Originally Posted by Corifto
Ughhh. Ordering custom big ammo sucks. Waiting 4-8 weeks is no fun.
Don't say that too loud, or samnavy will get you into reloading
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Originally Posted by EO2K
Don't say that too loud, or samnavy will get you into reloading
He Jedi Mind Tricked me into reloading. I think I am actually having more fun picking up brass from the range and cleaning it than I am shooting. Met a guy today who gave me 40 rounds of 7.62x54R brass. SCORE!

Anyway, I spent the last two days testing my reloads at the range. I used all copper 55 grain bullets, once fired Lake City brass and H335 powder. It looks like my Colt 6724 likes 24 grains the best. I shot a 1.5" group with Wolf Gold 55 grain (my default store bought ammo). My best 5 shot groups with the hand loads (maybe 20 rounds each) were:
24 grain - 1.25"
25 grain - 2.5"
25.5 grain - 1 7/8"
26 grain - 1 5/8"

It seemed like moving up to the hotter rounds spread the groups out. The 25.5 and 26 grain groups were usually around 2.5-3".

I'm not sure what this means but I'll load some lighter rounds next time and see what they do.


Also, I think I've mentioned this before but I've been picking up brass for the past few weeks in preparation for doing the hand loads. I found myself with 850 rounds of 9MM brass. I've purchased a Lee Classic Turret (four hole) and I'm going to set it up for 9MM. I still don't have a weapon that shoots 9MM but was thinking of a Hi-Point 9mm cabine until I went to PSA yesterday. They said they have a 9mm AR pistol kit for around $550 (I think it was a 10.5" barrel). That, a $50 pistol receiver, and a $125 arm brace would make a pretty nice rifle. I've got to chill out on the purchases for a while (spent around $5K over the past two months on guns/ammo) but I might be leaning towards the AR instead of Hi-Point 995. It probably doesn't matter because I am finding it impossible to get pistol powder right now. The gun show is coming up in a week and I'm hoping to pick some up there. I've got plenty of brass, 2500 rounds of small pistol primers, and 1000 rounds of the bullets that Sam suggested.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
He Jedi Mind Tricked me into reloading. I think I am actually having more fun picking up brass from the range and cleaning it than I am shooting. Met a guy today who gave me 40 rounds of 7.62x54R brass. SCORE!

Anyway, I spent the last two days testing my reloads at the range. I used all copper 55 grain bullets, once fired Lake City brass and H335 powder. It looks like my Colt 6724 likes 24 grains the best. I shot a 1.5" group with Wolf Gold 55 grain (my default store bought ammo). My best 5 shot groups with the hand loads (maybe 20 rounds each) were:
24 grain - 1.25"
25 grain - 2.5"
25.5 grain - 1 7/8"
26 grain - 1 5/8"

It seemed like moving up to the hotter rounds spread the groups out. The 25.5 and 26 grain groups were usually around 2.5-3".

I'm not sure what this means but I'll load some lighter rounds next time and see what they do.


Also, I think I've mentioned this before but I've been picking up brass for the past few weeks in preparation for doing the hand loads. I found myself with 850 rounds of 9MM brass. I've purchased a Lee Classic Turret (four hole) and I'm going to set it up for 9MM. I still don't have a weapon that shoots 9MM but was thinking of a Hi-Point 9mm cabine until I went to PSA yesterday. They said they have a 9mm AR pistol kit for around $550 (I think it was a 10.5" barrel). That, a $50 pistol receiver, and a $125 arm brace would make a pretty nice rifle. I've got to chill out on the purchases for a while (spent around $5K over the past two months on guns/ammo) but I might be leaning towards the AR instead of Hi-Point 995. It probably doesn't matter because I am finding it impossible to get pistol powder right now. The gun show is coming up in a week and I'm hoping to pick some up there. I've got plenty of brass, 2500 rounds of small pistol primers, and 1000 rounds of the bullets that Sam suggested.
I'm getting killed by the weather up here... not only too cold to shoot, but too cold to sit in the garage making ammo! Next week is supposed to be filled with nights in the hi-teens, so gonna be a bit longer for me.

Those seem like decent numbers for an entry-level AR.

Each gun likes something a little different, you're finding out that your groups open up with a little more energy, totally normal. I'm starting to get the itch real bad to go shooting now.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Those seem like decent numbers for an entry-level AR.
I wasn't considering it an entry level AR. Is it?
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
That, a $50 pistol receiver, and a $125 arm brace would make a pretty nice rifle.
FYI, the ATF recently published a letter stating that use of a pistol arm brace as as a stock constitutes a "redesign" and makes the weapon in question a NFA firearms, i.e. a short barrelled rifle requiring a tax stamp. I'm not sure how well that would hold up in court, but presuming you don't want to risk being the test case you're better off getting a rifle length barrel or biting the bullet to get a SBR tax stamp. Or I guess, you could use the pistol brace as is was "intended" and conveniently combine the worst aspects of a pistol and a rifle.
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Originally Posted by shooterschmidty
FYI, the ATF recently published a letter stating that use of a pistol arm brace as as a stock constitutes a "redesign" and makes the weapon in question a NFA firearms, i.e. a short barrelled rifle requiring a tax stamp. I'm not sure how well that would hold up in court, but presuming you don't want to risk being the test case you're better off getting a rifle length barrel or biting the bullet to get a SBR tax stamp. Or I guess, you could use the pistol brace as is was "intended" and conveniently combine the worst aspects of a pistol and a rifle.
Do you have any further info on this? I have heard just the opposite (that the ATF stated that there was no incorrect way on using the brace). I'd like some clarification before I did anything.
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Robert if those were 100 yard groups with a scope I'd try a different powder, or a different bullet. Personally I'd sell any semi auto that I couldn't get to group at least an inch for 5 shots with tuned hand loads.

I know personally that all-copper bullets like slower powders (and bigger jumps) generally speaking than traditional bullets. H335 isn't especially slow for the 223, I would try some Varget & re-evaluate.
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Originally Posted by EO2K
Don't say that too loud, or samnavy will get you into reloading

My grandpa reloaded all of his, but my grandmother sold everthing. Including the dies for both of the big guns I have left.

Currently going through a company that specializes in rare rounds.

.500 Maximum GNR made out of 50 Alaskan, and 41GNR made out of 44 RemMag.
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Originally Posted by usd2bfst
Robert if those were 100 yard groups with a scope I'd try a different powder, or a different bullet. Personally I'd sell any semi auto that I couldn't get to group at least an inch for 5 shots with tuned hand loads.

I know personally that all-copper bullets like slower powders (and bigger jumps) generally speaking than traditional bullets. H335 isn't especially slow for the 223, I would try some Varget & re-evaluate.
Yes, scoped. I am in the process of tuning the loads now. I would be pretty upset if I am not than 1" when done.

Now you tell me. I bought 8 pounds of H335 yesterday!
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
Do you have any further info on this? I have heard just the opposite (that the ATF stated that there was no incorrect way on using the brace). I'd like some clarification before I did anything.
Here's a link to the letter.

https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi...ing_braces.pdf

I know that there are various organizations fighting it, but unless something changes I think this killed the use case for stabilizing braces.
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Also check your crown under your flash hider. Many ARs have crappy crowns since the hider will disguise it. My last DPMS actually had an error in the crown. I got a 11° crowning tool from PTG, problem solved.

H335 is a good powder for the right bullet, but it's faster. You'll find a use for it.
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Originally Posted by shooterschmidty
Here's a link to the letter.

https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi...ing_braces.pdf

I know that there are various organizations fighting it, but unless something changes I think this killed the use case for stabilizing braces.
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