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Old 01-09-2012, 02:02 AM
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^Yeppers.

Are these day or night break ins? Try leaving the TV or talk radio on with the volume audible from outside the apartment when nobody is home, signs of life may well scare away a would be burger. If it's a night break in, some sort of audible alarm that would trigger if somebody tried to get in would give you some advanced warning, even a bell on the door (like many stores have) could save your ***. Don't forget to secure windows too, a piece of wood jammed in there so the window will not open, some sort of apparatus with a bell on it would be good. Nothing beats a dog though, if your apartment allows it.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:31 AM
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Basics:
ADT sign on the lawn.
Dowels in each window.
Warning sticker on every window and door.
Doghouse, a few chewtoys, and water bowl in the backyard.
Leave TV/radio on.

Intermediate:
Basic motion detection system house alarm, ADT or similar.
Motion detection lights.
Jack Russel Terrier.

Advanced (including all of the above):
Standalone multi-camera day/night DVR, UPS backup, online.
German Shepard.

When you're not home, having your guns locked up is a great idea, but most people are not going to lock their bedstand gun or closet shotgun up each time they leave the house. A quick access safe will keep things safe from the kids, but probably not a determined thief if he's willing to take the time to defeat your safe-mounting method.

One of these bolted/welded securely to your bedframe or even through the wall into studs:
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Look what you can buy at Costco... I'm seriously thinking of getting one of these to make the wife happy vs. it just laying on a shelf.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rodid=11609953

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:10 AM
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there's this ------- crack head who lives in the next house. he's been known to ask to stash stolen goods in my neighbor's car. he's robbed the cvs.
i've seen him drag his gf by the hair for a few feet.
he's a piece of ----.
the neighbor mentioned above moved out and no more than 3-5 days later, he breaks into the downstairs apartment.

before this piece of ---- moved in, i had no problems here, no fear of leaving my door unlocked if i need to go run a 5 minute errand.

now i'm talking to the landlord about the possibility of changing the door hinges and definitely getting a gun.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Look what you can buy at Costco... I'm seriously thinking of getting one of these to make the wife happy vs. it just laying on a shelf.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rodid=11609953

While we can sit here and have these masturbatory arguments until we're all blue in the *****, it's important to note that devices like the one you posted often prove troublesome when trying to access your weapon during a very stressful time. Granted, you may be able to operate successfully in such a situation given your profession, it's much more likely that a groggy insurance salesman will have difficulty negotiating a locking mechanism in the dark, without even factoring the obvious effects stress will have on his nerves.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:21 AM
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i agree. i see the point of locking the gun up when i'm not home, but i'm not sure i want to have to unlock something if someone is breaking into my place. i want to grab the gun and go.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by phillyb
there's this ------- crack head who lives in the next house. he's been known to ask to stash stolen goods in my neighbor's car. he's robbed the cvs.
i've seen him drag his gf by the hair for a few feet.
he's a piece of ----.
the neighbor mentioned above moved out and no more than 3-5 days later, he breaks into the downstairs apartment.

before this piece of ---- moved in, i had no problems here, no fear of leaving my door unlocked if i need to go run a 5 minute errand.

now i'm talking to the landlord about the possibility of changing the door hinges and definitely getting a gun.
problem?

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:50 AM
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Take all the precautions you can as mentioned above and get a CCTV DVR system so if he breaks in, you've got him on video. Put the recorder somewhere inaccessible and and hook it to a batter backup (UPS).

Have a weapon handy but don't leave it accessible when you're not there in case he breaks in when you're gone.

You might want to get a camera to watch your parking spot as well if you can swing it.

In the meantime, you can take some of your valuables and keep them somewhere else until this guy goes to jail or gets himself killed. Also, the best thing you can do is give him the impression that you're not somebody to ---- with... I don't know how you'd do that at this point, but figure it out.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Also, the best thing you can do is give him the impression that you're not somebody to ---- with... I don't know how you'd do that at this point, but figure it out.
easier than you'd think

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Old 01-09-2012, 11:00 AM
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will this be sufficient for my windows?

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in all seriousness, the cameras sound great. i checked on my jeep last night after i found out about this bs. another friend of mine also recommended this. i am going to speak with the landlord later about ways to prevent stuff like this from happening in the future

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until this guy goes to jail or gets himself killed.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pusha
problem?


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My "kill em all" flag does the trick for me.

That and the fact that when anyone so much as passes by the house I go out on the porch. I should mention we live in the woods so people outside the house isn't exactly a daily occurrence.
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Originally Posted by phillyb
i agree. i see the point of locking the gun up when i'm not home, but i'm not sure i want to have to unlock something if someone is breaking into my place. i want to grab the gun and go.
Again, masturbating here.

Factor in your ability to access the weapon while under stress, and the time it will take you. Reduce that time by practicing, just like any skill or procedure.

I'd rather take the extra 5-8 seconds to retrieve a weapon and be fully awake when I hear a window break, rather than instantly grab my .40 from the drawer just in time to fire at my kid who dropped her water glass and at that moment comes running into the room to tell me about it. However unilkely that situation is, if you're so groggy/uncapable of operating a fingerlock, then you probably shouldn't be walking through the house looking for bad guys with a loaded firearm anyways. You can run through your own scenarios about how much time you'll have to react vs. target identification vs. whatever and come to your own conclusions.

Set your alarm for 2am and go to sleep. When it goes off, access your gun and light source (however they are secured), and assume a firing position... then say the Pledge of Allegiance or another hard-to-do-fast phrase. You will be awake.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Again, masturbating here.

Factor in your ability to access the weapon while under stress, and the time it will take you. Reduce that time by practicing, just like any skill or procedure.

I'd rather take the extra 5-8 seconds to retrieve a weapon and be fully awake when I hear a window break, rather than instantly grab my .40 from the drawer just in time to fire at my kid who dropped her water glass and at that moment comes running into the room to tell me about it. However unilkely that situation is, if you're so groggy/uncapable of operating a fingerlock, then you probably shouldn't be walking through the house looking for bad guys with a loaded firearm anyways. You can run through your own scenarios about how much time you'll have to react vs. target identification vs. whatever and come to your own conclusions.

Set your alarm for 2am and go to sleep. When it goes off, access your gun and light source (however they are secured), and assume a firing position... then say the Pledge of Allegiance or another hard-to-do-fast phrase. You will be awake.
i live with my gf in a one br apt...granted we do have 4 cats who could potentially break a glass. i'm not as concerned about the windows breaking (2nd floor) as i am someone trying to enter through the front door, which may sound silly, but i'd rather be safe than sorry.

in order for someone to get into the apartment from the front door, they have to climb about 17 steps.

i am on call at all hours of the day/night so when my phone rings, i have to be awake, not groggy. hopefully this experience will help with the grogginess in a breaking and entering situation.

i like your idea about practicing. thanks for tips!
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An apartment that has stairs to access it is a great reason to get a CCTV camera at the top of the stairs. Hell, they even sell fake ones if you don't want to go through the hassle of an actual DVR etc. Mount one and put up a sign "Warning, you are under surveillance" or similiar.

I'm certain you can find them cheaper, but a few of these might do the trick.
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Would anyone besides hustler be interested in IWB holsters for M&Ps?

Would anyone be interested in IWB holsters for XD compacts?

I've got a bunch of holsters that I need to get rid of.
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My German Shepherd barks (long hair, all black) whenever she sees/hears something out of place, plus she's got teeth and a lust for blood, I know a dog may not be a possibility, but if your methhead neighbor sees a friggen wolf-dog hanging around your apartment, he's gonna find a different place to steal ****.
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I have a friend that might be interested in an XD comp holster. Tell me how much and I'll let him know.
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finally found the mosin ive been looking for... ill be picking it up next wednesday. cant wait to clean off the 100lbs of packing grease so i can use it lol
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