Yet Another Gun Thread
10-08-2012, 07:21 PM
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Attempting to pick out a good scope for my new Savage .22 when it shows up.. Considering the following:
Technical Information
Tube Diameter: 1"
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4" @ 50 yards (1/2 MOA @ 100 yards)
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: No
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Low
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: Fully multi-coated
Warranty: Lifetime factory warranty
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: No
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 3x
Max power: 9x
Reticle Construction: Wire
Reticle: BDC 150
Illuminated Reticle: No
Holdover reticle: Yes
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed (@ 50 yds)
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Airgun Rated: No
Objective Bell Diameter: 50.3mm
Ocular Bell Diameter: 44mm
Eye Relief: 3.6"
Max Internal Adjustment: 80 MOA
Exit Pupil Diameter: 13.3-4.4mm
Weight: 13.1 oz
Field of View at 100 Yards:
33.8' @ 3x
11.3' @ 9x
$149.99 Nikon Prostaff Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm BDC 150 Reticle Matte (Had a $30.00 mail-in rebate, think it expired though)
Technical Information
Tube Diameter: 1"
Objective Diameter: 44mm
Ocular Diameter: 36.75mm
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 minute of angle
Eye Relief: 3.75"
Field of View at 100 Yards:
33 - 11'
Lens Coating: Fully-coated
Length: 12"
Weight: 10 ounces
$57.99 Simmons 22 Mag Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-9x 32mm Adjustable Objective
Technical Information
Objective bell diameter: 47.24mm
Ocular bell diameter: 43.6mm
$104.99 BSA Sweet 22 Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm Side Focus Duplex Reticle
Stopped by Cabela's tonight on my way home and 'scoped' out the selection they had... Really don't want to spend $160 on a scope, but think I'm sold after seeing how freaking clear the magnified image is!
Technical Information
Tube Diameter: 1"
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4" @ 50 yards (1/2 MOA @ 100 yards)
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: No
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Low
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: Fully multi-coated
Warranty: Lifetime factory warranty
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: No
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 3x
Max power: 9x
Reticle Construction: Wire
Reticle: BDC 150
Illuminated Reticle: No
Holdover reticle: Yes
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed (@ 50 yds)
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Airgun Rated: No
Objective Bell Diameter: 50.3mm
Ocular Bell Diameter: 44mm
Eye Relief: 3.6"
Max Internal Adjustment: 80 MOA
Exit Pupil Diameter: 13.3-4.4mm
Weight: 13.1 oz
Field of View at 100 Yards:
33.8' @ 3x
11.3' @ 9x
$149.99 Nikon Prostaff Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm BDC 150 Reticle Matte (Had a $30.00 mail-in rebate, think it expired though)
Technical Information
Tube Diameter: 1"
Objective Diameter: 44mm
Ocular Diameter: 36.75mm
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 minute of angle
Eye Relief: 3.75"
Field of View at 100 Yards:
33 - 11'
Lens Coating: Fully-coated
Length: 12"
Weight: 10 ounces
$57.99 Simmons 22 Mag Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-9x 32mm Adjustable Objective
Technical Information
Objective bell diameter: 47.24mm
Ocular bell diameter: 43.6mm
$104.99 BSA Sweet 22 Rimfire Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm Side Focus Duplex Reticle
Stopped by Cabela's tonight on my way home and 'scoped' out the selection they had... Really don't want to spend $160 on a scope, but think I'm sold after seeing how freaking clear the magnified image is!
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10-08-2012, 08:25 PM
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I have never seen a bad Nikon, but that reticle sucks.
Why are you going with adjustable power on a .22? Get the 22 mag from Simmons in 4x32 and be done with it. 9 power on a .22 is way over the top.
Why are you going with adjustable power on a .22? Get the 22 mag from Simmons in 4x32 and be done with it. 9 power on a .22 is way over the top.
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10-08-2012, 10:00 PM
#2667
Like I said, accuracy with a .22lr is WAY more about your ammo than any single thing that guys like us can afford. If you've got the coin for an Anschutz, then by all means do whatever... but for those of us who like our $200 22lr's and $35 scopes, I am perfectly happy shooting bulk HP's at .02cents per trigger pull and keeping it somewhere "in the middle" at 100yds.
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10-09-2012, 08:49 PM
#2676
I'm not buying any more Keltec products until they unfuck their supply problems. Half their catalog is "impossible to find". Nobody has as many issues as they have unless it's on purpose. In not being able to buy their products, they clearly don't put the customer first.
When the major online retailers start to have Sub2k's for $300, and my LGS has them in stock, I'll get one, but not until then.
When the major online retailers start to have Sub2k's for $300, and my LGS has them in stock, I'll get one, but not until then.
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10-09-2012, 08:57 PM
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I'm not buying any more Keltec products until they unfuck their supply problems. Half their catalog is "impossible to find". Nobody has as many issues as they have unless it's on purpose. In not being able to buy their products, they clearly don't put the customer first.
When the major online retailers start to have Sub2k's for $300, and my LGS has them in stock, I'll get one, but not until then.
When the major online retailers start to have Sub2k's for $300, and my LGS has them in stock, I'll get one, but not until then.
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10-09-2012, 10:47 PM
#2678
I know I could find an FFL somewhere that would sell me one for $300. He'll take a $50 deposit and put it on order. Then I'd wait and wait and wait and maybe it never shows up, or maybe it does. Or maybe I could find an FFL who "knows a guy" and could have one in a week... which is equally as much bullshit.
My point, and my power as a consumer is that I refuse to buy anything in that manner. I understand the supply of a certain product running low, or even running out, but the company should make an effort to tell the consumer what's going on, and why their products aren't on the shelves. Keltec won't tell you anything under any circumstances. I'll wait until they get their **** straight or I'll just go without.
I'll use Primary Arms as an example. Everything they sell fly's off the shelves as quickly as they get them. They have manufacturing issues with their people in China that they are trying to work out. They are very transparent and it's easy to feel their frustration. They make no excuses, and the consumer knows exactly where they stand. I want one of their micro-dots BAD... but can't wait. I'm gonna end up with a Bushnell TRS-25 in the next few weeks unless they pull off a miracle. In this case, I'm willing to wait a couple weeks because I like how the company does business... but not with Keltec.
My point, and my power as a consumer is that I refuse to buy anything in that manner. I understand the supply of a certain product running low, or even running out, but the company should make an effort to tell the consumer what's going on, and why their products aren't on the shelves. Keltec won't tell you anything under any circumstances. I'll wait until they get their **** straight or I'll just go without.
I'll use Primary Arms as an example. Everything they sell fly's off the shelves as quickly as they get them. They have manufacturing issues with their people in China that they are trying to work out. They are very transparent and it's easy to feel their frustration. They make no excuses, and the consumer knows exactly where they stand. I want one of their micro-dots BAD... but can't wait. I'm gonna end up with a Bushnell TRS-25 in the next few weeks unless they pull off a miracle. In this case, I'm willing to wait a couple weeks because I like how the company does business... but not with Keltec.
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