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Old 11-27-2017, 10:39 AM
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I've always loved how Southeast region abuses the instructors by combining 3 + 4. Another part of the reason I'm tiring of instructing is that they often put de1 and 4 back to back with each other so the instructors lose track time if they are in level 4. I haven't looked at the schedule yet for this weekend but I assume they did it again at some point. When Jon Felton ran the Florida region he was very careful not to abuse his instructors in that way.

I'm just venting. Frustrated that I don't have the stamina to instruct and drive right now. I enjoyed certain aspects of instructing. It's nice to help people and see them improve.
Yeah, I know the feeling. I've had a DE1 student AND DE2 student, ugh that was a cluster. South-East is pretty particular about not stacking instructors sessions to DE1 sessions. I know this because we've bitched about only having 1 TT morning session and the response is usually in regards to schedule arrangement.

Looks like DE4-DE1 stacking happens once per day this weekend.

Live schedule - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it#gid=2894647
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Man, it's looking like it'll be a big event. 35 in DE1, 40 in DE4, 43 in TT, and LOTS in SE30/SM.

Gonna be a good day!
Good god that's gonna be a lot on track.... Should be fun times for sure.
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Good god that's gonna be a lot on track.... Should be fun times for sure.
Yeah, I'd hate to be naturally aspirated in those kinds of fields. Lol
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The potential for 70+ cars on track in the combined DE3+4 sessions will be pretty miserable. I guess that's what happens when you have a low entry price and great December weather (and NASA wants to make as much money as they can)
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The potential for 70+ cars on track in the combined DE3+4 sessions will be pretty miserable. I guess that's what happens when you have a low entry price and great December weather (and NASA wants to make as much money as they can)
Yeah, especially when under de3 passing rules. It's not NASA, but the local NASA franchise that sets the limits. What's really a pain in the *** is that southeast won't do hot pulls and local yellows like any other reasonable operation. They **** up everybody's track time when one guy screws up. I don't want to drive 16 hours to sit and watch a red flag drill.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Yeah, especially when under de3 passing rules. It's not NASA, but the local NASA franchise that sets the limits. What's really a pain in the *** is that southeast won't do hot pulls and local yellows like any other reasonable operation. They **** up everybody's track time when one guy screws up. I don't want to drive 16 hours to sit and watch a red flag drill.
When did you run with NASA-SE last? They definitely do hot-pulls(I've been hot-pulled) and local yellows.

I'm just trying to give you good news for this weekend The weather is looking pretty damn awesome....... that TTE record is guna get reset!!
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It's been about 2 years.
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Yea, they unfortunately still do the red flag drill...
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Correction, it's been 5 years since I was at RA.

Here's a rear hub or rotor failure on an s2000 at turn 10b.





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I've seen Black Bandit and Flier129 so far. HRK is here in the Lotus 7 with the turbo BP but I haven't met him yet.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Correction, it's been 5 years since I was at RA.

Here's a rear hub or rotor failure on an s2000 at turn 10b.
I bet it was the knuckle that failed.

We had multiple rear knuckle failures on our S2000s when we used to race them in SCCA T3. The cast iron knuckle would crack all the way through the "arm" that went up to the upper A-arm. After the first couple failures we started checking the knuckles after every weekend. Die-penetrant was the best method for checking for the cracks.
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When I yelled to the driver over the fence when he was walking over to pick up his wheel I asked if it was a hub failure and he said "no it looks like a rotor."


Black Bandit's car in the paddock with Flier129's white and black one in the distance.

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Well, hrk was involved in a pretty big wreck. I helped put his car in the trailer but his condition it's currently unknown to us.








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First session Saturday, late to the grid.

Then this happens.



Off to a great start this weekend.

The Miata that went off of T1 and got stuck is our buddy Black Bandit!
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Fun weekend! Steve I wish we coulda hung out more. I got busy with student, trying to get my car on the dyno, then repairing my rear caliper, etc, etc. I never got a session together to beat my PB, but James did reset the TTE record in my car, down to a 1:42.4xx.

It was definitely a crowded weekend across the board. When they combined DE1/DE2 it was PACKED. I can imagine DE3/4 was the same.

Joel, in the white TTC s2k, did have a rear hub failure. I was behind him when it happened! I saw some smoke and a tire flying in the air, then turned into 10A to see Joel off on the side. Flash-backs to Barber bummed me out, so I came into the pits then lol. He fixed it and was back out by Saturday afternoon. He was 0.100 off the TTC record this weekend, so close yet so far away.

So Heikki had a bit of an accident coming into T12, went into the back of Dez (TT1 911 *fast*). I didn't see the wreck, but based on the explanations I've heard Heikki was at fault for his contact with Dez, the Corvette in front of them both wrecked on his own.
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Someone else in a Miata went off on Saturday afternoon.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
The Miata that went off of T1 and got stuck is our buddy Black Bandit!
I wasn't in the kitty litter this time. That was Will haha.
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Had a blast this weekend dudes, even though 3/4 sessions were a massive cluster.
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Great to meet Marcus, James, Allen and his Miata crew! The DE3/4 groups were about as busy as we expected, but Will (yet another 99 red NB) and I stuck around for the last two Sunday sessions and it opened up a bit more.

I finally got a full lap in that last session without having to deal with any traffic and put together a dirty (literally) 1:48.6. Fortunately the Ohlins work about as well off track as they do on track! Hope to see you guys more at future events


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