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k24madness 05-16-2018 01:25 AM

Jebus that thing is FAST!!!! Absolutely ridiculous!!!





emilio700 05-16-2018 02:04 AM

Running 1400/700 springs now. 1.25" front, SPM .56" rear on full stiff. Hyper is on 1300/600 I think.

ThePass 05-16-2018 12:23 PM

^ Yep, 1300/600 currently. 1.25" x 0.188" front Karcepts bar (zero bushing or arm flex), 15mm rear. Not quite enough spring for the Hoosiers in the dry I suspect.

emilio700 05-16-2018 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by ThePass (Post 1482562)
^ Yep, 1300/600 currently. 1.25" x 0.188" front Karcepts bar (zero bushing or arm flex), 15mm rear. Not quite enough spring for the Hoosiers in the dry I suspect.

I was thinking last night that we should bring some stiffer springs for your setup. Rig is gone so we'll have to fly with them, ugh.

When Vegas is running on 275/295 with the full skirted flat bottom, giant diffuser and another 150whp, I suspect it will need something like 1700/900.
Strange territory we are venturing into.

flier129 05-16-2018 12:57 PM

Ryan, will you be running NASA TT at all? I'm wondering if your car can fall in TT2, could be a chance at some more purple crack :D


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1482569)
I was thinking last night that we should bring some stiffer springs for your setup. Rig is gone so we'll have to fly with them, ugh.

When Vegas is running on 275/295 with the full skirted flat bottom, giant diffuser and another 150whp, I suspect it will need something like 1700/900.
Strange territory we are venturing into.

Holy sheeet! Will Vegas be running drop-spindles as well, which changes the required spring-rate, no?

ThePass 05-16-2018 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 1482578)
Ryan, will you be running NASA TT at all? I'm wondering if your car can fall in TT2, could be a chance at some more purple crack :D

UTCC only. Car is now up to spec to run NASA TT (had to move the battery and a couple other details) but the nut behind the wheel still has to attend a TT in the SoCal region to get signed off for a license, just haven't had time for that yet.

Also, current front aero does not fit TT1-3 dimensional restrictions. I have plans to make an alternate front for TT2 at some point. Other than the front aero, the car can fit in TT2 with a bit of ballast. Pretty sure I'd run it on Rivals like I do in GTA; there's an additional power:weight allowance for >100 tw tires so could run less ballast, and I'm already doing TT2 record pace / borderline TT1 pace on the street tires at SoCal tracks.

k24madness 05-16-2018 07:54 PM

Ryan, no license needed for TT in NASA.

You guys are giving me evil thoughts about a new front splitter. The current one is removable. Swapping in a more robust one for TT and more rear wing (& end plates) should help with downforce.

doward 05-16-2018 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by k24madness (Post 1482642)
Ryan, no license needed for TT in NASA.

NASA Norcal must be weird.

I've got hard TT Licence cards going back 6+ years. $20 a year to renew, application process, DE4 check rides, etc.

k24madness 05-16-2018 08:10 PM

It’s all the chronic up here :-)

I should have checked current rules before making statement though. Was not long ago I raced without license in TT. If it’s changed I have not heard of it. Makes sense no license since most of the cars are not race prepped.

Update....Just confirmed you need one up here now too. I wish I could neg cat myself!

Carry on....sorry to pollute a fine thread.

ThePass 05-17-2018 01:12 AM

I've pos catted your request for a neg cat. Sometimes you just can't get what you want ;)

Arca_ex 05-17-2018 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by k24madness (Post 1482642)
Ryan, no license needed for TT in NASA.


Then why do you need to apply for a TT license and pay the fee then the national office mails you a TT License hard card...



Edit: Didn't read all posts. Yeah. Licenses...

flier129 05-17-2018 09:44 AM

All this license talk made me realize I never received my hard copy of my TT license. Still have the receipt, so I'm still gtg.

Weather is looking a tad better, mostly for Sunday lol. Maybe Team Just Gonna Send It will be able to poke the TTE record. Even though I haven't been to ViR in 3 years and I think it's been 6+ years for Dan :rofl: Whatever, I'm packing sticker tires just in case.

FatKao 05-17-2018 07:38 PM

My car is still at the shop getting pulled back into the correct shape, but I'll likely swing by with the kid on Saturday to BS with people. The NASA-MA PTE and TT records are stupid soft at VIR.

Hope you guys got wets. For weather you'll want to look at 'Alton, VA' or 'Milton, NC.'

ThePass 05-17-2018 09:06 PM

Just landed at GSO, watching the forecast for Alton, VA. Friday (UTCC) is guaranteed wet with a 60% chance of rain in the AM building to full bore 100% by noon. Saturday not much better, Sunday is currently predicting AM showers. Might be a chance for good lap times for the ST/TT guys on Sunday.

Braineack 05-18-2018 08:31 AM

yeah its been raining all damn week out here. not typical.

FatKao 05-18-2018 09:00 AM

It's spring in the southeast, nothing is typical.

IcantDo55 05-18-2018 09:25 AM

Yea this is hyperfest so farhttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...39802f2634.jpg

IcantDo55 05-18-2018 09:56 AM

Looking good guys https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...86710e4cb2.jpg

FatKao 05-18-2018 09:57 AM

It's weird seeing your cars on the right coast. It's also totally dry down in Raleigh right now. You guys just barely got hit.

sixshooter 05-18-2018 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by FatKao (Post 1482896)
It's weird seeing your cars on the right coast.

Yeah, what's with all the green trees and rain? West Coast tracks are all surrounded by sand and rocks unless you get up in the rainforests where Aiden is.

emilio700 05-18-2018 10:24 AM

Pretty sure we were fastest and morning warm-up sessions by several seconds but they were not picking up our transponder. First timed session to quality for the knocout round is at 11:45.

concealer404 05-18-2018 10:37 AM

Is there a live video feed anywhere?

emilio700 05-18-2018 10:47 AM

Splitter is blocking our hardwired transponder which is buried behind a bunch of ducting and the oil cooler. Impossible to get to quickly so we're going to throw a rechargeable on the back. 115 through the esses, 150 on back straight.. in the wet.

FatKao 05-18-2018 10:52 AM

115 at the top of the hill? That's crazy fast in the wet.

curly 05-18-2018 10:53 AM

They were on Race Monitor a few years ago, I don't see anything right now though.

Braineack 05-18-2018 11:01 AM

its kinda a shame, that's such a great course.

FatKao 05-18-2018 11:02 AM


OFFICIAL MESSAGE AT 2018-05-18 13:20:14
412, 512, 13 DQ Timed Sessions 1 and 2 for spin / four off.
Did they really DQ people for spinning in the rain?

Braineack 05-18-2018 11:03 AM

wouldn't their slow times disqualify them by default?

doward 05-18-2018 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by FatKao (Post 1482915)
Did they really DQ people for spinning in the rain?

100% normal NASA TT rules.

Spin past 70* or more than 2 off is a DQ for that session.

IcantDo55 05-18-2018 11:49 AM

Not goodhttps://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9ccc477371.jpg

IcantDo55 05-18-2018 11:59 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1d1808237b.jpg

dcamp2 05-18-2018 12:12 PM

did it go into the tire wall? Need more updates!!!!

aidandj 05-18-2018 12:14 PM

Lol, what about the driver.

Is Ryan ok?

Stock 05-18-2018 12:15 PM

Ryan ok?? Superficial damage or did it contact?

FatKao 05-18-2018 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by doward (Post 1482929)
100% normal NASA TT rules.

Spin past 70* or more than 2 off is a DQ for that session.

For that session, notes say they wacked 2 future timed sessions which seems a bit extreme.

More transponder problems?

IcantDo55 05-18-2018 12:33 PM

Yes everyone fine. Car not so much. Mostly aero damage https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...adb150918c.jpg

IcantDo55 05-18-2018 12:34 PM

He fine. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...aa54af3115.jpg

sixshooter 05-18-2018 12:38 PM

Living on the edge?

doward 05-18-2018 12:43 PM

Grassroots Motorsports has a few live videos posted on their page.
Manny and Emilio are posting live from Supermiata facebook as well.

Facebook Post

Facebook Post

emilio700 05-18-2018 01:00 PM

Ryan is ok. Splitter is tore up and pretty much unusable.

So utcc is split up into a and b groups. A group before us had no less than 3 full course yellows and they kept restarting the group. They were on track for 45 minutes. B group just afterwards got one full course yellow and they stopped the session.

The track was fully wet about a half hour before we went out so we mounted the H2O s. They delayed getting our group on track 20 minutes for a spun car. By the time out I got out it was a full dry line. So I dove back into the pit to swap to A7 scrubs. Started pouring on the out lap. Aargh!
So my best time lap was on slicks in the wet. Scared the shit out of myself but I made the cut. If the track gets faster we will go a lot faster. If it does not get any faster than we're good for tomorrow.

Ryan is pretty sulken right now as you might imagine. We are trying to talk him into rigging up some other splitter. We have enough pieces and Hardware here to put something together that will work. We will have to trim the rear wing way out and he will lose some downforce but the top end speed will probably go up.

Efini~FC3S 05-18-2018 01:26 PM

There's a Home Depot in Danville about 30-35 minutes from the track...if one needed to make a impromptu run to HDR for aero materials...

curly 05-18-2018 01:47 PM

Glad Ryan and for the most part the car is ok. Looks all superficial, can't get away from that too much with how much both the splitter and wing stick out. Y'all are there, fix and head back out!

FatKao 05-18-2018 01:48 PM

TMI also has most of a machine shop at VIR. Cozy up to the guys in the store that's in north paddock. I've seen them press out bearings for people mid-weekend in the past so they may be able to help out.

emilio700 05-18-2018 02:34 PM

Second of three times sessions and I botched everything. Hard wired transponder wasn't picking up. Swapped our backup rechargeable transponder in but it was on zero charge. So we had it on the charger before I went out and forgot to put it back on the car. Then I chucked it off in turn one after setting fast lap of all UTCC cars that session. But of course it wasn't recorded. In any case, NASA DQ's you for that session and the next two, if you go four off. Open practice and last time session in about an hour but I can't run them. As it stands now I am in the top 20. If the track does not get any faster in the last session, I will make the shootout tomorrow.

Splitter is bent up but I think we can bring it back to 95% original shape it'll just be even uglier. Unfortunately I broke the end plates and second element off the GT1000. So it will be way down on rear downforce but it might still be faster. We will see.

jpreston 05-18-2018 02:45 PM

DQ'd from 3 sessions for a single 4-off??? What the actual fuck, NASA.

FatKao 05-18-2018 02:52 PM

That's not how they run normal TT so no idea where that is coming from.

nickt93 05-18-2018 03:08 PM

Rain is a beyotch. I admire you guys for going out and putting down fast laps in the damp. Luckily it sounds like damage to both cars is fairly minimal.

emilio700 05-18-2018 03:19 PM

I spoke too soon. Only dq'd from the session with the four off. Sean is trying to jerry-rig my front end now so I can go back out.

Anyone near vir that wants to loan or sell me an APR GT 250 foil with 31" mount centers?

Braineack 05-18-2018 03:29 PM

that Nikon, however, is missing the rubber eye-piece...

emilio700 05-18-2018 03:43 PM

John had an idea. Our wing had the nutserts pulled out of either end so there's nothing to attach the end plates onto.
So so we went into town to a Fastenal and bought two 6' lengths of 1/4 20 threaded rod. Clamp the end plates on. No second element but we basically have a GT 250 again.

FatKao 05-18-2018 05:35 PM

What happened to session 3?

Nevermind, just checked my FB.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...75&oe=5B7AC183

That's a first.

Efini~FC3S 05-18-2018 05:42 PM

Holy jeez

Braineack 05-18-2018 06:18 PM

Wow.

emilio700 05-18-2018 07:26 PM

Because the B group did not get their third session and AA group got the only dry track of the day, GRM decided to give us another opportunity tomorrow. Ryan and I both get another shot but it will probably be wet so we will be lucky to make the top 15 I think.

emilio700 05-18-2018 07:40 PM

Because the B group did not get their third session and A group got the only dry track of the day, GRM decided to give us another opportunity tomorrow. Ryan and I both get another shot. It will probably be wet so we will be lucky to make the top 15 I think.

k24madness 05-19-2018 10:24 AM

Bummer to see weather be such an issue. Best of luck today to both of you.

emilio700 05-19-2018 11:40 AM

Sonny is fine. 3rd in TTU while scrubbing A7's. We are 1st ir2nd fastest in the wet so that's ok too.

Irony is the only UTCC session today coincides with the vonlt real rain today. Dry before and after. So I won't get a chance to do anything. I'm not even going out today. No point. I won't go any faster than I did yesterday and only risk messing up Sonny's chances by bending it again.

Sonny has an excellent chance at podium in SU & TTU both days.

IcantDo55 05-19-2018 12:23 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...af50bdec68.jpg

emilio700 05-19-2018 12:29 PM

We got Ryan back out finally. Big grins all around.

nickt93 05-19-2018 02:05 PM

Love this. Keep the updates coming Emilio. We are all living vicariously here: you and Ryan have built the Miatas we all want to build, you are at the event we all want to go to, racing against the cars we would all love to beat.

Results from this event could set a real real precedent for what this platform is capable of.


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