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astroboy 07-07-2011 12:12 AM

FWD photoshoot
 
Just lookin for some input on this shoot I did for a friend. Lay that C on me you critical bastards!


hustler 07-07-2011 12:46 AM

No one here likes shit like this.

dstn2bdoa 07-07-2011 01:33 AM

He's been here for over 4 years, and has a 1k+ posts. I think he knows what kind of cars are popular here. I believe he was asking for criticism on his photog skills, not whether or not we like the car.

Astro. Not bad at all. A couple of them are really nice. Most are pretty good. If your an amateur good work. If your a pro, I hope you don't charge too much.

viperormiata 07-07-2011 02:23 AM

What the fuck is a FATLACE?

Nice pics.

pusha 07-07-2011 06:58 AM

your composition sucks dick. what equipment did you use? I mean, besides the obvious photoshop dickery.

astroboy 07-07-2011 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 746006)
No one here likes shit like this.

If it was pics of a pink vibrating dildo you'd be saying different :giggle:


Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 746034)
He's been here for over 4 years, and has a 1k+ posts. I think he knows what kind of cars are popular here. I believe he was asking for criticism on his photog skills, not whether or not we like the car.

You got it!


Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 746034)
Astro. Not bad at all. A couple of them are really nice. Most are pretty good. If your an amateur good work. If your a pro, I hope you don't charge too much.

Thanks, I am an amateur for sure. I do charge gas money usually but that's it (because most cars I shoot are an hour ad a half away and my time is sorta valued to me)


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 746040)
What the fuck is a FATLACE?

Nice pics.

I think it is a blog about cars. Just googled it and that seems to be the consensus. It also isn't defined on ud so...

astroboy 07-07-2011 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 746061)
your composition sucks dick. what equipment did you use? I mean, besides the obvious photoshop dickery.

So when you say composition sucks dick you mean I didn't adhere to the "rule" of thirds? Camera's a D5000 with a 50 prime and a 18-55

pusha 07-07-2011 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by astroboy (Post 746066)
So when you say composition sucks dick you mean I didn't adhere to the "rule" of thirds? Camera's a D5000 with a 50 prime and a 18-55

The rule of thirds and all those fancy conventions can suck on my dangling down dong. Do you consider yourself an artist? I mean, you do have a Flickr so that's like half the battle, right?

astroboy 07-07-2011 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 746067)
The rule of thirds and all those fancy conventions can suck on my dangling down dong. Do you consider yourself an artist? I mean, you do have a Flickr so that's like half the battle, right?

Ok, so what's wrong with my comp?

pusha 07-07-2011 08:15 AM

Not one of your shots made me think. I'm sorry, I don't have anything to offer other than you hit pretty much every cliche exterior shot possible.

Braineack 07-07-2011 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 746034)
If your an amateur good work. If your a pro, I hope you don't charge too much.

If you're an author, I hope you don't get paid for your work.

astroboy 07-07-2011 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 746086)
Not one of your shots made me think. I'm sorry, I don't have anything to offer other than you hit pretty much every cliche exterior shot possible.

It is a car, there is not too much you can do without getting really artsy which would and up taking away from the car imo. The focus of the shots is the car, the guy did suspension and wheels to his car and the shots are to done in a way to focus on that. Here is one from another shoot I did of a white TL, I wanted to shoot the car in a way that would display the lines of the car well. I can guarantee this angle has been done before also...kinda like every movie plot has been done before.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/...58c62af7_b.jpg

Or is this more your thing?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1074/...8e2a5e8e_b.jpg

Braineack 07-07-2011 11:00 AM

much better.

astroboy 07-07-2011 11:16 AM

The panning shot or the high perspective shot?

pdexta 07-07-2011 11:25 AM

I don't know crap about photography, but they look great to me.

All these "Illest" stickers make me want to look for a "Healthiest" sticker.

240_to_miata 07-07-2011 10:29 PM

Cant wait for us to shoot my car together so you can teach me more. I dont know shit about my camera.

BTW how the fuck did you get that pic in willi at the bridge?

pusha 07-07-2011 10:34 PM

One day I'll scan all of my prints and host them somewhere. Real men use film.

Doppelgänger 07-07-2011 11:09 PM

#9 needs the pole removed...it's horrid on the eye.

#11 needs less DOF/more area in focus. Might be better if the rear tire AND wheel were in focus. To me, the object in focus (the farmost part of the lip) is too narrow and distracting...I can't focus on the picture.

But what do i know, I'm not some hotshot picturetakerperson. Composition and quality are pretty good IMHO on the rest (although the subject is a bit bland to my personal taste).






Does anyone else think Pusha's lame shit talking is getting old? At least Hussie was creative with his keyboard vomit...and it was witty.

miatauser884 07-07-2011 11:25 PM

I like #4 and #6

NA6C-Guy 07-07-2011 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 746067)
The rule of thirds and all those fancy conventions can suck on my dangling down dong. Do you consider yourself an artist? I mean, you do have a Flickr so that's like half the battle, right?

Why must you be such a tool. You try to be like Hustler, but you fail. You used to not be this way, what happened?

I think most of them look pretty nice Astro. For shots focusing on the car, it's hard to really do much with them, especially with limited locations and lighting. I think you did a good job overall. Of course there is always improvement, even with very experienced photographers/artists.

fooger03 07-08-2011 01:08 AM

#1 - whatever is going on in the top right of the photo is way too distracting - put the wipers back down and get the person out of the picture.

#2 - There is no content here, nothing inspiring, this pic doesn't do much for me at all. Zooom out so that you can frame the top and bottom of the bumper, and get some taillight in as well.

#3 - Turn your CPL so that the windshield glares, if possible. Pics of faces inside the car are distracting from the actual car. Also, if you're going to have the car off center, try to have more space in front of the car instead of behind the car - i.e. "where is it going" or "what's in front of it" - given the rearward angle of the shot, you'll only get to see barely more in front of the car, but this picture will be the car "entering" the photo, and not "exiting" the photo.

#4 is strange because vertical lines should be vertical - notice the corner of the building. Yes, sometimes it's impossible, otherwise I would like this shot with a good bit more lighting, and pull some glare out with your CPL.

#5 - Bad lighting direction makes the front edges overstated, and the back edges tough to distinguish.

#6 - I like this shot, but being that it is still, try to be creative with perspective - take the shot from a perspective that a viewer wouldn't normally get to see. Use the hell out of liveview with that flip out screen - I do. Take a shot with the camera resting on your hands on the ground, Take another shot holding the camera way high in the air. The Live View can be tricky for motion shots because of terrible focusing speeds, but for still stuff like this, it works wonders.

#7 - turning the wheel slightly to the right will give us a better view, you can keep the sideways perspective by not turning too much. Use your CPL to help better define the lines in the wheel.

#8 - Not bad - is that a crosswalk that the car is sitting in?

#9 - In a picture like this, the point that you want to highlight is the curve that the car is taking, while still maintaining focus on the car itself. Position the car in the lower right corner of the photo while trying to take a "high-altitude" shot - if you're driving slow enough, use the Live View, otherwise stand on the seat if you're passengering in a convertible, or sit in the window frame of the car if you're not afraid of flashing lights.

#10 - good lighting, good pov, get rid of "Herring" in any final photos, focus CPL to define the wheels.

#11 - trying too hard with your 50mm prime to open the lens up, back it down a notch and gain a little DOF - still easy to focus on the whole wheel while keeping the front end out of focus.

#12 - good lighting, use CPL, zoom out because there's too much car in this pic. I think I would have taken a high perspective on this instead of the low perspective, but I'm not the one that took the photo.

#13 - O hai!

If you can find the D90 kit lens on craigslist (search "nikon 18-105"), it's a worthy investment. It's an 18-105 lens, and a good deal better at the 18-55mm length than the kit lens you have (though the kit lens you have is actually pretty decent for macro shooting). The cool thing is; there are probably some D90 users that also picked up the 18-200 lens when they bought their cameras and simply have no use for the D90 kit lens. My 18-105 rarely ever comes off my D5000, I also pack a f1.4 50mm, and a f2.8 70-200mm, though that big one can be a little pricey, and I don't use it nearly as much as I thought I would.

Do you have a circular polarizer (CPL)? If not, you're in a world of hurt.

Bond 07-08-2011 01:17 AM

Pictures of stationary cars does not interest me. For instance, when you're looking at porn, they don't show pics of the pornstar fully dressed sitting in a chair with her legs crossed. Instead, they show her gobbling three 11'' ebony caulks at once while getting dp'd by 2 midgets.

In for Pusha hatin', I told him on here liked his shit, and he didn't believe me. LOL

astroboy 07-08-2011 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 746494)
Cant wait for us to shoot my car together so you can teach me more. I dont know shit about my camera.

BTW how the fuck did you get that pic in willi at the bridge?

No problem man. I took the shot at 5am on a saturday morning. There were maaaybe 10 cars that drove past us the entire time.


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 746496)
One day I'll scan all of my prints and host them somewhere. Real men use film.

Probably not. Also real men don't go on forums and tell people what real men do. Real men just do it. Boys try to convince people they are a real man.


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 746508)
#9 needs the pole removed...it's horrid on the eye.

I thought if I was to take too much out of the shot it would be overkill. You think pulling that out of the shot wouldn't be over doing it?


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 746508)
#11 needs less DOF/more area in focus. Might be better if the rear tire AND wheel were in focus. To me, the object in focus (the farmost part of the lip) is too narrow and distracting...I can't focus on the picture.

Wouldn't that be more DOF? I did that shot to put focus on the wheel and fender. I probably should have done it with the aperture opened up a tad.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#1 - whatever is going on in the top right of the photo is way too distracting - put the wipers back down and get the person out of the picture.

He was drying the car, just liked the idea of something happening in the shot and went with it.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#2 - There is no content here, nothing inspiring, this pic doesn't do much for me at all. Zooom out so that you can frame the top and bottom of the bumper, and get some taillight in as well.

I had another composition of this shot with exactly that but I wanted the focus to be the plate. While it is not a ground breaking image I felt the one with the tail light was distracting...I ended up focusing on the light where as my intent was the plate.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#3 - Turn your CPL so that the windshield glares, if possible. Pics of faces inside the car are distracting from the actual car. Also, if you're going to have the car off center, try to have more space in front of the car instead of behind the car - i.e. "where is it going" or "what's in front of it" - given the rearward angle of the shot, you'll only get to see barely more in front of the car, but this picture will be the car "entering" the photo, and not "exiting" the photo.

Didn't think about the driver being blocked by glare. I wanted the lines of the hood and bumper to be unobstructed by the reflection of trees. You are also correct, there was pretty much nothing in front of the car to crop out so this shot could have been better...still working on my rolling shot abilities.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#4 is strange because vertical lines should be vertical - notice the corner of the building. Yes, sometimes it's impossible, otherwise I would like this shot with a good bit more lighting, and pull some glare out with your CPL.

That shot I am not proud of. The lights all around the car turned off when I was setting up so I didn't put much into the shot. Also why there is so much DOF and an unadjusted cpf.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#5 - Bad lighting direction makes the front edges overstated, and the back edges tough to distinguish.

I was going for the "driving into the sun" feel with this shot with a feeling of warmth. IDK how I could have done it better because the balance of the lighting in the shot would be off no matter what (unless I just did it with a warming filter).


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#6 - I like this shot, but being that it is still, try to be creative with perspective - take the shot from a perspective that a viewer wouldn't normally get to see. Use the hell out of liveview with that flip out screen - I do. Take a shot with the camera resting on your hands on the ground, Take another shot holding the camera way high in the air. The Live View can be tricky for motion shots because of terrible focusing speeds, but for still stuff like this, it works wonders.

I didn't think about using live view to see the weird angles but I was shooting for making the bridge accentuate the lines of the car...also that is main st in town which is almost always busy. Most people from around this area never get to see this area uninhabited.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#7 - turning the wheel slightly to the right will give us a better view, you can keep the sideways perspective by not turning too much. Use your CPL to help better define the lines in the wheel.

I'll have to play with the cpf more next time I do wheel shots.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#8 - Not bad - is that a crosswalk that the car is sitting in?

Yup.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#9 - In a picture like this, the point that you want to highlight is the curve that the car is taking, while still maintaining focus on the car itself. Position the car in the lower right corner of the photo while trying to take a "high-altitude" shot - if you're driving slow enough, use the Live View, otherwise stand on the seat if you're passengering in a convertible, or sit in the window frame of the car if you're not afraid of flashing lights.

I'll also give the higher perspective thing a shot. Like I said before I'm still working on rolling shots.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#10 - good lighting, good pov, get rid of "Herring" in any final photos, focus CPL to define the wheels.

Thanks. I think the cpf is a catch 22, if I adjust it to get the wheels looking better/different then all the glare comes in on the rest of the car.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#11 - trying too hard with your 50mm prime to open the lens up, back it down a notch and gain a little DOF - still easy to focus on the whole wheel while keeping the front end out of focus.

Yeah, this one could have been better.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#12 - good lighting, use CPL, zoom out because there's too much car in this pic. I think I would have taken a high perspective on this instead of the low perspective, but I'm not the one that took the photo.

My cpf never leaves my lens unless I am taking pics of my stuff in the garage. I don't know, I always gravitate towards low shots. Definitely should think about switching it up some more with altitude.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 746529)
#13 - O hai!

If you can find the D90 kit lens on craigslist (search "nikon 18-105"), it's a worthy investment. It's an 18-105 lens, and a good deal better at the 18-55mm length than the kit lens you have (though the kit lens you have is actually pretty decent for macro shooting). The cool thing is; there are probably some D90 users that also picked up the 18-200 lens when they bought their cameras and simply have no use for the D90 kit lens. My 18-105 rarely ever comes off my D5000, I also pack a f1.4 50mm, and a f2.8 70-200mm, though that big one can be a little pricey, and I don't use it nearly as much as I thought I would.

Do you have a circular polarizer (CPL)? If not, you're in a world of hurt.

My next lens will be a fixed aperture jammy, probably 24-80 2.4f but until I have my car together I won't be buying anything. When I do start buying camera gear again I need a: good flash, a rig, and new glass. Most likely in that order.


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 746532)
Pictures of stationary cars does not interest me. For instance, when you're looking at porn, they don't show pics of the pornstar fully dressed sitting in a chair with her legs crossed. Instead, they show her gobbling three 11'' ebony caulks at once while getting dp'd by 2 midgets.

O.......k So I guess you like the rolling shots?


Thanks for the input everybody! Also the replies I made are only to explain my thought processes while setting up/photographing/processing, not me trying to dismiss any comments.

Doppelgänger 07-09-2011 03:13 PM

You reply is taken well over here :)
No I don't think taking the pole out would be too much. It's really contrasting to the trees behind it, if it were a dark color, it might look better as well.


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