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jeff_man 10-17-2009 02:22 PM

GT2 at Laguna
 

papasmurf 10-17-2009 03:35 PM

wow! I wonder if the drivers duked it out on the podium too.

hustler 10-17-2009 03:44 PM

they're both fucktards and should both get severe punishment.

9671111 10-17-2009 03:53 PM

Wow, was not expecting the end. Some dirty driving.

jeff_man 10-17-2009 04:51 PM

they both have a 2 race suspension

hustler 10-17-2009 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 469697)
they both have a 2 race suspension

probation =! suspension

buffon01 10-17-2009 05:11 PM

Noob here. The Corvette bumps into the Porsche in turn 11, was the Porsche supposed to just let him pass the Corvette by even after being bumped??

I fucking jumped when I saw the Corvette heading for the wall. O_O

kotomile 10-17-2009 05:17 PM

Man, I missed the Saturday portion for the second year in a row. Fuck..

I was there on Sunday of course, so at least I got to see the SWC cars go at it.

hustler 10-17-2009 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 469713)
Noob here. The Corvette bumps into the Porsche in turn 11, was the Porsche supposed to just let him pass the Corvette by even after being bumped??

I fucking jumped when I saw the Corvette heading for the wall. O_O

the porsche was driving like a blocking ------ for the last 5-laps, and driving all over the course on the straights to block the vette, even swerving into him when he attempted to pass in #2. The officials should have penalized the porsche a long time ago. The vette should not have bumped the porsche like a bitch.

failx2.

buffon01 10-17-2009 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 469723)
the porsche was driving like a blocking ------ for the last 5-laps, and driving all over the course on the straights to block the vette, even swerving into him when he attempted to pass in #2. The officials should have penalized the porsche a long time ago. The vette should not have bumped the porsche like a bitch.

failx2.

So blocking ------ is the street term for defensive driving.

kotomile 10-17-2009 05:41 PM

It's unsportsmanlike, at the very least.

Being that I've never done any real track days, the only experience I have on track is at go-kart places (like Andretti Speedlab in Atlanta - my favorite and I get to race at half price!). Nothing sucks the fun out of it like being stuck behind some ass that's trying to block you while driving slower. They usually end up swapping ends when I tap them.

Now, that may sound like I'm defending the Porsche... but I can't compare the two so closely since this is a professional race. The Corvette was being an ass IMO.

NA6C-Guy 10-17-2009 05:41 PM

I saw nothing wrong with what the Porsche was doing, it was clean defensive driving up until the wall incident with the Vette. I would have probably done the same thing. No way I'm going to lose a race because some dick hits me from behind when I had a big gap opened up. Plowing through the turn to get someone loose like that pisses me off so bad. I agree they were both at fault though, they did take it too far, but I would say the Vette is more at fault. I always view defensive driving as safer and more acceptable than offensive driving. If you can't find a gap to get around them safely, thats your fault, don't bump them hard to get them loose.

Great race though, exciting finish.

Sam Amporful 10-17-2009 05:46 PM

well when the final race and season are both coming to an end and both teams have a chance at winning the series, its kind of tensional on the drivers and they have rough battles like this. He knew the final turn was his last chance to pass the flying lizard and he was gonna take it. I dont blame either of them for what they did and they were both dogfighting. Actually almost everything the porsche did in this situation was clean. There was no obvious blocking which is just considered defensive driving

hustler 10-17-2009 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 469726)
So blocking ------ is the street term for defensive driving.

rear the rules. The vette was grossly faster and each time the vette would pass, the porsche would flank him and push him off track. The porsche's driving was hardly defensive, it was dangerous and illegal according to the rules.

NA6C-Guy 10-17-2009 05:49 PM

I guess I'm just the kind of guy that wouldn't feel good with a victory after having to bump someone to get around them on the final turn. I would have played it clean and drag raced down the straight. If the Porsche would have blocked like a dick then, it would be all on him.

hustler 10-17-2009 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Sam Amporful (Post 469735)
well when the final race and season are both coming to an end and both teams have a chance at winning the series, its kind of tensional on the drivers and they have rough battles like this. He knew the final turn was his last chance to pass the flying lizard and he was gonna take it. I dont blame either of them for what they did and they were both dogfighting.

bullshit. When the vette would being to pass in #2, and the porsche rammed him into the gravel...that's not dogfighting, its cheap shit.

buffon01 10-17-2009 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 469738)
bullshit. When the vette would being to pass in #2, and the porsche rammed him into the gravel...that's not dogfighting, its cheap shit.

I saw that and didnt agree with it. I agree that the Vette was the faster car. However, I think is the Vette fault for letting it get to the last turn and then having to bumped the Porsche to get aheah coming out the turn, the Vette shouldve tried something earlier when there was still time.

hustler 10-17-2009 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 469751)
I saw that and didnt agree with it. I agree that the Vette was the faster car. However, I think is the Vette fault for letting it get to the last turn and then having to bumped the Porsche to get aheah coming out the turn, the Vette shouldve tried something earlier when there was still time.

He tried about 5 times...and each time the porsche ran him off track. I blame this on officials which should have penalized the porsche. A defensive line and blokcing are acceptable, pushing the vette into the gravel is not.

Burgmeister should have been penalized for pushing the vette off track and then the vette would not have to retaliate. /thread

NA6C-Guy 10-17-2009 06:20 PM

I think you guys are seeing things. I saw the Porsche carry speed through the turn and got on the throttle to avoid being passed and the rear end kicked out a bit and the Vette happened to be there. Thats racing, its what happens when you pass aggressively on the outside on a final lap. If it had been a problem someone would had called it. So quit your bitching. :hustler:

Midtenn 10-17-2009 07:18 PM

I think someone is a Corvette fan. I never saw Jorg Bergmiester make a dangerous move to defend his position. He drove a defensive line that would make the Jan take the less preferred way to pass. To me, that is the job of the race leader. It is the responsibility of the passing driver to do it safely. Jan just stuck his nose in a few too many times. I besides the last straight, I saw the Jan creating more dangerous situations than Jorg. I mean come on, what if someone was coming out of the pits when Jan cut through put out?

Do I think Jorg created a dangerous situation on the final straight? Yes. But Jan also tried to bump him out of the way a few times before that (I guess thats not dangerous when Jan almost ran the ALMS Challenge car off the course in the cork screw?). To me, it was just racing up until the last straight incident. I'm tired of the pantie wasted series complaining about blocking. I am sorry, but that is racing. You keep the other drivers behind out at all cost (safely).


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