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Joe Perez 12-02-2009 11:00 PM

How a Real Man changes a fan belt.
 

dstn2bdoa 12-02-2009 11:06 PM

:eek5:

9671111 12-02-2009 11:23 PM

If only changing miata belts were that easy.

18psi 12-02-2009 11:24 PM

That is AWESOME:D

Turbo_4 12-02-2009 11:29 PM

Used that method with the timing belt, I used a crow bar though.

viperormiata 12-02-2009 11:43 PM

That just made my day :bowrofl:

NA6C-Guy 12-02-2009 11:47 PM

Holy shit :laugh: I was expecting a fail and some fingers to be flying off. I was a bit worried there at the start.

boileralum 12-02-2009 11:47 PM

I don't think a new, tight belt is going to go on quite so easily as the stretched out old belt (that looks like it is loose to start with). Funny party trick, but pretty dumb.

18psi 12-03-2009 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 490096)
I don't think a new, tight belt is going to go on quite so easily as the stretched out old belt (that looks like it is loose to start with). Funny party trick, but pretty dumb.

You didn't HONESTLY expect this to be anything but a trick did you? C'mon now.

boileralum 12-03-2009 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 490103)
You didn't HONESTLY expect this to be anything but a trick did you? C'mon now.

No, but since I was disappointed that no limbs were lost, I had to make the sourpuss post ;)

buffon01 12-03-2009 12:45 AM

WOW!!! O_O

No flying limbs = fail :giggle:

94mx5red 12-03-2009 06:18 AM

How a real man mounts a tire
 



The redneck version:


nickt93 12-03-2009 07:46 AM

Haaaaa....classic! I guess on the old veedubs you don't have to set the belt tension, etc

buffon01 12-03-2009 07:47 AM

The reck neck version :idea: LMAO :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Joe Perez 12-03-2009 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by nickt93 (Post 490162)
Haaaaa....classic! I guess on the old veedubs you don't have to set the belt tension, etc

You're supposed to, but you have to disassemble the generator pulley to do it. The pulley is split into two halves, with shims in between to adjust how deeply the belt rides in it. Real PITA...

And actually, I'd wager that this might actually work for the alternator belt of a 1.6 Miata without power steering or A/C.

Any takers?

Braineack 12-03-2009 08:19 AM

I'll idle mine at 300rpm and speed up the video just like that one too!

miata2fast 12-03-2009 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 490180)
I'll idle mine at 300rpm and speed up the video just like that one too!

Your next avatar?

Braineack 12-03-2009 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by miata2fast (Post 490232)
Your next avatar?

yeah, after i edit the video so I play myself dropping the belt in reverse so it looks like im catching it.

NoMiEzMX-5 12-03-2009 12:57 PM

Pretty slick..:)

Braineack 12-03-2009 01:07 PM

what I think it amazing is the speed in which he can turn a screwdriver around in his hand! and his cat like reflexes.

Joe Perez 12-03-2009 01:51 PM

Always a cynic...

I gotta say, that video does not appear to be faked. The sound of the engine is precisely what it should be, and more importantly, the sound that the butt of the screwdriver makes when he uses it to stop the generator pulley after popping off the belt also seems correct.

I think we just have to face the fact that there's someone more manly than Braineack, and he drives a pre-1974 Beetle.

Braineack 12-03-2009 02:12 PM

I'll give you fifty dollars* if you can:

flip a screwdriver around in your hands and catch a flying object at the same instant within 1 sec and leaning forward to keep you body out of site to make it easier to splice scenes later.

there are clear splices every time the hands go in and out of the viewfinder; watch at :26-:27 while he "drops" belt. no human can move that fast, sorry. shit looks like stop motion.



*must be witnessed in person myself and filmed by 2 others.

browning 12-13-2009 10:11 PM

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used to think a real man did alot of things like a real man oils his bike chain with the bike in gear till a fellow board member on another site did this.Attachment 201865


pretty happy just being a big puss and taking my time after seeing that:facepalm:

Cspence 12-13-2009 10:20 PM

God damn!

neogenesis2004 12-13-2009 10:26 PM

I really didn't need to see that last pic....

NA6C-Guy 12-13-2009 10:50 PM

Yeah you did, bike chain safety first!

cjernigan 12-13-2009 10:52 PM

Girlfriend didn't like that picture, she caught it out of the corner of her eye.
Guy at work that has spent half his life working with air cooled VWs and Porsches knew about this technic while I was trying to explain the video.

neogenesis2004 12-13-2009 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 495112)
Yeah you did, bike chain safety first!

Only bike chain I will ever be changing is on a huffy.

viperormiata 12-14-2009 12:25 PM

I know this is off topic but, how in the good name of gravy do you fucking fix your hand after that shit???????????

thymer 12-14-2009 01:18 PM

OK, just a hair off-topic, can someone identify the year of that beetle? It's definitely pretty old judging by the rear apron. Early 60's?

nevermind, it's in the video... 67

browning 12-14-2009 01:19 PM

he got it stiched up and is doing fine lost all the ends of his fingers. crazy bastard took pics before going to the hospital.
I posted the pic as a heads up it's a pretty cool trick but even though it's a rubber belt at 1000 rpms in your fingers get in the way you will lose them.

browning 12-14-2009 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 495328)
OK, just a hair off-topic, can someone identify the year of that beetle? It's definitely pretty old judging by the rear apron. Early 60's?

nevermind, it's in the video... 67

yeah it's a 67 about the only way you can tell otherwise from the video would be the distributer. 66 was the last year they used the 6 volt setup and thats a 12 volt so she was built later part of 66 or early 67. assuming it's a stock setup which it looks to be

thymer 12-14-2009 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by browning (Post 495331)
yeah it's a 67 about the only way you can tell otherwise from the video would be the distributer. 66 was the last year they used the 6 volt setup and thats a 12 volt so she was built later part of 66 or early 67. assuming it's a stock setup which it looks to be

setting points with a match book, static timing with a light bulb, adjusting valve lash with a wrench and screwdriver, my how things have changed. I would have never imagined when I was a teenager with my 71 beetle that someday I'd be programming timing and fuel curves with a computer that sits in your lap. Of course I also thought my big 60hp was a race engine! :)

Joe Perez 12-14-2009 02:21 PM

The exact same thing happened to a guy on the FSAE team back at UF in '97 or '98. Not the motor on the car, it was his personal bike. And the engine wasn't even running in his case, he was just spinning the wheel by hand. They took off all four of the fingers back to the level of the first knuckle (the one closest to the hand.)

I still think the VW video is real. As Whistler says, "Don't look- listen." You might be able to fudge the video, but the sound is much harder to fake. Not just the exhaust note, but things like the sound made by the handle of the screwdriver rubbing against the generator pulley.

Joe Perez 12-14-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 495332)
I would have never imagined when I was a teenager with my 71 beetle that someday I'd be programming timing and fuel curves with a computer that sits in your lap. Of course I also thought my big 60hp was a race engine! :)

I was doing some research at an ACVW site a little while back, and there are some interesting things going on. A couple of folks have actually made their own water-cooled heads, by milling down the fins in the "main" section, welding some aluminum sheet and plate, etc. Imagine the sort of daily-driver power you could be making with a set of CB Comp Eliminators running water-cooled?

(Come to think of it- I'm surprised that somebody like CB hasn't started offering this as a product. Great Plains gave up on theirs, but IIRC, they were using some 044-like casting. Not very impressive.

thymer 12-14-2009 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 495360)
I was doing some research at an ACVW site a little while back, and there are some interesting things going on. A couple of folks have actually made their own water-cooled heads, by milling down the fins in the "main" section, welding some aluminum sheet and plate, etc. Imagine the sort of daily-driver power you could be making with a set of CB Comp Eliminators running water-cooled?

(Come to think of it- I'm surprised that somebody like CB hasn't started offering this as a product. Great Plains gave up on theirs, but IIRC, they were using some 044-like casting. Not very impressive.

Wow. I hadn't heard of the watercooling thing, seems a little non-purist but thumbs up to them for trying to make it work. Hey, maybe do a little meth/water spray into the fan so it blows over the cylinder fins. Just make sure not to turn the heat on! :)

browning 12-14-2009 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 495354)
The exact same thing happened to a guy on the FSAE team back at UF in '97 or '98. Not the motor on the car, it was his personal bike. And the engine wasn't even running in his case, he was just spinning the wheel by hand. They took off all four of the fingers back to the level of the first knuckle (the one closest to the hand.)

I still think the VW video is real. As Whistler says, "Don't look- listen." You might be able to fudge the video, but the sound is much harder to fake. Not just the exhaust note, but things like the sound made by the handle of the screwdriver rubbing against the generator pulley.

i do believe it's real i just hope bunch of people don't try it. it would hurt like hell it something went wrong.

clay 12-14-2009 08:55 PM

I've seen the tire mounting trick done several times in person. Pretty scary, but cool.

jedduh01 12-14-2009 10:31 PM

I beleive its real too...

anyone ever rocked a belt onto an engine... some vintage race cars dont have tensioner assembly. Simply get the exact length belt that fits, Put the belt around, and partially on the crank.

Put trans in gear, and bump the entire car forward, to bump the crank around. Slowly pushing the belt inward toward the groove.

Really a slow motion way of doing it while the engine is running.

Hell, ive seen my pops do it wile bumping the starter solenoid to jump the motor around.

Its the only way to get a belt on, if your stranded with no tools.

miata2fast 12-14-2009 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by browning (Post 495100)
used to think a real man did alot of things like a real man oils his bike chain with the bike in gear till a fellow board member on another site did this.http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...g/CIMG0018.jpg


pretty happy just being a big puss and taking my time after seeing that:facepalm:

I heard he started taking piano lessons as soon as he got out of the hospital.........One bad mother fucker.:giggle:

Joe Perez 12-18-2009 02:04 PM

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thymer 12-18-2009 02:27 PM

Holy crappage, that is crazy! How you gonna melt your sneakers though with that heating setup? :)

thagr81 us 12-18-2009 02:58 PM

Amazing...

demented antics 12-18-2009 06:16 PM

Crazy lol

Joe Perez 12-18-2009 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 497659)
Holy crappage, that is crazy! How you gonna melt your sneakers though with that heating setup? :)

The couple of setups I've seen like this still used the stock fan shroud, as the cylinders were not water-jacketed. But I'm guessing that anybody going to this length probably isn't running the stock restrict-o-matic heater boxes.

Of course, one could always do something crazy, like run a heater core. (Stick it under the back seat, and feed into the heater channels there.)

Cspence 12-20-2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by browning (Post 495100)
used to think a real man did alot of things like a real man oils his bike chain with the bike in gear till a fellow board member on another site did this.http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...g/CIMG0018.jpg


pretty happy just being a big puss and taking my time after seeing that:facepalm:

Just saw the rest of this....DAYUM

How NOT to clean your chain. **GRAPHIC PICS*** : Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums: Gixxer.com

turotufas 01-25-2010 01:30 AM

:nono: Not me. I love brushing my own teeth and driving too much so I won't be doing crazy things. Can't beat those tire mounting vids for entertainment ahaha.

Eadohcturbo 01-31-2010 10:56 PM

nice belt vid-If I only knew this trick when I had VW's. Amazing how fast ppl move when limbs may be lost.The belt is extremely loose making it easier,Not only finger at risk,that screwdriver could take out an eye:owned:
and those Carbs look to small for those nice VW heads..

triple88a 02-01-2010 12:24 AM



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