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Vashthestampede 09-07-2014 06:39 PM

Testing out our new gopro3
 
The rollbar mount was disappointing, so I opted for the rook mount this time.

Quality on the computer is superb, but its not coming out as good once upload online. Not sure if I'm missing a step or not...


Fireindc 09-07-2014 06:56 PM

VASH! You are driving like a mad man, I love it.

As for the video, any way to do a remote mic in the engine bay or something? That would fix the wind noise, which was my only complaint.

sixshooter 09-07-2014 09:10 PM

Nice Kobelco. Does that belong to you guys or one of the other companies in the complex?

Youturd cuts down the quality of all of the uploaded videos to save them bandwidth. You just have to live with that or find a better service.

Jeffbucc 09-07-2014 10:50 PM

Also to get perfect sound, I pulled the microphone off a gaming headset, and then drilled a hole in the waterproof housing and then ran the microphone into my cabin. Cover it with a little foam and you don't get any wind noise and nice clear audio.

Efini~FC3S 09-08-2014 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1164918)
Also to get perfect sound, I pulled the microphone off a gaming headset, and then drilled a hole in the waterproof housing and then ran the microphone into my cabin. Cover it with a little foam and you don't get any wind noise and nice clear audio.

Props - good info.

Any other sources for good external mics? I'd rather not hack up a gaming head set

Jeffbucc 09-08-2014 02:32 PM

Here is a cheap headset from bestbuy you could mangle. Plus it is noise canceling so you don't need to mess with it. Super easy to disassemble the headset and pull the microphone portion out.

Gear Head, LLC BN2450NC - Best Buy

concealer404 09-08-2014 02:41 PM

I like this mic. I need to get my hands on one. "Quinn" on here has taken some awesome videos using it.



m2cupcar 09-08-2014 02:42 PM

:werd: remote mics are mandatory - at least for engine/exhaust, it appears that burning rubber doesn't need it. ;)

edit: that video rocks ^ :bigtu: Is there compressor surge, or is that all bov?

petrolmed 09-08-2014 04:30 PM

That is a fun video. Regarding the sound, I would bet that he has a TiAL BOV.

Looks like I'll be getting an external mic for my upcoming gopro. How is the 3 Vash? Worth going for it vs an older model? The video concealer posted mentions he used a gen 2 and it looks decent.

concealer404 09-08-2014 04:35 PM

I have a Hero3 and it's worth getting over the older versions even if only for ease of use. I trigger ours on using the GoPro app on my phone. Can also preview video on the phone as it's being taken, so it's easy to get everything situated where you need it.

The only remote capability for the Hero2 is some remote add on that's pretty clunky.


This all said... there are other companies/cameras that are catching up to the GoPro VERY quickly and i somewhat doubt that my next action cam purchase will be a GoPro.

Leafy 09-08-2014 05:00 PM

The nabi, once on the youtubes looks the same as the gobros and there's less wind noise. Turn all mine on at once with the remote, but to turn them on and off totally you have to remove them from the case and slide the switch minor annoyance, but the battery life is so much better than the gobro that its no big deal to leave it running with the wifi on and just let it go to standby between uses. I'm going to be uploading some fresh stuff in a little bit and will link.

concealer404 09-08-2014 05:03 PM

More GoPro knockoffs:

SJ4000 Black 12MP HD 1080p Car Cam Sports DV Action Waterproof Camera 2X Battery | eBay

Full HD 1080p Waterproof Action Sport Camera Cam WiFi DV Camcorder WDV5000 Black | eBay

Ben 09-08-2014 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1165222)
This all said... there are other companies/cameras that are catching up to the GoPro VERY quickly and i somewhat doubt that my next action cam purchase will be a GoPro.

I am using Drift cameras. They were much cheaper than the Hero3, so we were able to buy several. They all start with a single remote button. No streaming to cell phone, but each does have a working LCD display with video preview.

To note -- the batteries that were included were awful. At least half were dead, straight out of the box. Drift replaced the batteries at no cost. All but 1 of the replacement batteries was good. We then bought more batteries and the plugs to power the cameras off the car. So the batteries sucked, but the cameras are decent and were only $50/ea.

rhysmate 09-08-2014 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1165182)
I like this mic. I need to get my hands on one. "Quinn" on here has taken some awesome videos using it.

Amazon.com: Audio-Technica PRO24CM Stereo Microphone with Camera Mount: Musical Instruments



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TheCowGod 09-08-2014 10:14 PM

I've been giving this some thought too. Most of my (limited) video production experience is in filming my band's shows (
), which involves multiple GoPros for video and a for a nice clean audio signal. Everything gets synced up later in Final Cut.

Now that I'm filming my autocrosses, I quickly found that I need better sound (
). I was thinking of mounting the DR-40 in the passenger cabin, but was curious where people have found they get the best sound. Would just mounting it to a suction cup on the windshield, pointing downward at the dash/engine bay do the job? I guess I need to get out and experiment with a few different options, but if anyone has had success with any particular mic placements, I'd like to hear about it.

Leafy 09-08-2014 11:23 PM

Here's one from saturday with the nabi. Its rather overcast in this video. In more bright sun its better.


Like this one.


Jeffbucc 09-08-2014 11:47 PM

Here is an example of my hacked up gaming mic, pretty clear sound


Twodoor 09-09-2014 01:38 AM

What is the typical autocross speed range? How slow is the slowest turn vs how fast on the fastest strait?

Keith

Leafy 09-09-2014 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1165370)
What is the typical autocross speed range? How slow is the slowest turn vs how fast on the fastest strait?

Keith

Every course is different, normally the slowest you'll see is 35 and the fastest, well that depends on the car, but top of 2nd and using the limiter is pretty normal, so low 70's in a 250ish hp handling monster like my car but on that first one I linked vettes on world challenge takeoffs were hitting low 80's which is too fast.

Twodoor 09-09-2014 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1165378)
Every course is different, normally the slowest you'll see is 35 and the fastest, well that depends on the car, but top of 2nd and using the limiter is pretty normal, so low 70's in a 250ish hp handling monster like my car but on that first one I linked vettes on world challenge takeoffs were hitting low 80's which is too fast.

I ask because with the 6 speed and 4.3 ring and pinion 3rd gear can do 30 to almost 70 and not be on the rev limiter, or bogging down at 30. Anybody run this combination in autocross?

Keith

Leafy 09-09-2014 08:07 AM

In 3rd gear is the problem. Nailing that 2-3 shift perfect every time is whats worry some. I've strongly considered it but I dont really think more power is going to make my car faster right now.

TurboTim 09-09-2014 08:27 AM

Leafy, do you mean this Nabi? Red camera marketed to children? Seems pretty nice.

Fuhu Nabi Square HD Camera Rugged Childproof Waterproof Shockproof 8MP 1080p | eBay

And do these goPro knockoffs also use gopro mounts?

TheCowGod 09-09-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1165354)
Here is an example of my hacked up gaming mic, pretty clear sound


That does sound good. Where in the car was your mic placed? About where the camera is positioned?

Leafy 09-09-2014 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1165392)
Leafy, do you mean this Nabi? Red camera marketed to children? Seems pretty nice.

Fuhu Nabi Square HD Camera Rugged Childproof Waterproof Shockproof 8MP 1080p | eBay

And do these goPro knockoffs also use gopro mounts?

Yup, marketed for children. They seem to go on sale on either woot or bestbuy for like $60. Come with a few mounts, all of mine are attached to gopro suction cup mounts because the other brands either suck or cost over $100 each. All the mount stuff interchanges besides the connection to the camera (both case and tray thing both use standard camera mounts 14-28 thread or whatever, but the cameras come with the standard camera to go pro adapter) and the quick disconnects for like sticky mounts and stuff dont interchange and cant be modded to work (I tried).

concealer404 09-09-2014 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1165392)
Leafy, do you mean this Nabi? Red camera marketed to children? Seems pretty nice.

Fuhu Nabi Square HD Camera Rugged Childproof Waterproof Shockproof 8MP 1080p | eBay

And do these goPro knockoffs also use gopro mounts?

yep, they use GoPro mounts.

So does the Emerson Action Cam and the Vivitar units.

The 1080P Vivitar does good video, shit audio.

Twodoor 09-09-2014 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1165382)
In 3rd gear is the problem. Nailing that 2-3 shift perfect every time is whats worry some. I've strongly considered it but I dont really think more power is going to make my car faster right now.

I was thinking along the lines of start out in 2nd, do one shift into 3rd, and leave it in 3rd for the rest of the course.

Keith

concealer404 09-09-2014 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1165645)
I was thinking along the lines of start out in 2nd, do one shift into 3rd, and leave it in 3rd for the rest of the course.

Keith

With your gearing, that's what you'd pretty much HAVE to do. :bowrofl:

Leafy 09-09-2014 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1165645)
I was thinking along the lines of start out in 2nd, do one shift into 3rd, and leave it in 3rd for the rest of the course.

Keith

Yeah, thats the idea, but when you only have 3 shot, do you want to risk muffing one of them on a trickier shift if you can avoid it? Depending on how little you care about your clutch and how good you are at slipping it, just launching in 3rd is an option.

concealer404 09-09-2014 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1165648)
Yeah, thats the idea, but when you only have 3 shot, do you want to risk muffing one of them on a trickier shift if you can avoid it? Depending on how little you care about your clutch and how good you are at slipping it, just launching in 3rd is an option.

He DOES have a 6spd/4.3 combo in a turbo car. I bet starting in 3rd is no harder than the rest of us starting in 2nd.

Jeffbucc 09-10-2014 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by TheCowGod (Post 1165394)

That does sound good. Where in the car was your mic placed? About where the camera is positioned?

Mic is right behind the the elbow pad. Just attached it to the carpet on the rear shelf. Camera is a suction cup Mount on the rear window with a 6" extension.

Also on the 2nd or 3rd gear discussions, I rarely need to go to third with a 3.63 diff. In my video I'm redlining in 3rd by the end of that long straight. The course is abnormally fast due to being on an airport strip. The 3.63 is perfect IMHO, for not running out of gear.

TheCowGod 09-10-2014 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1166047)
Mic is right behind the the elbow pad. Just attached it to the carpet on the rear shelf. Camera is a suction cup Mount on the rear window with a 6" extension.

Thanks. I've got an autocross this weekend, so it'll be a perfect chance to give it a try.

Ciotti 09-10-2014 05:41 PM

I've tried out a TON of mic positions over the years (engine bay, passenger footwell, passenger seat base, windshield, rear deck, back edge of the trunk, rear bumper, etc...) and the absolute best spot I've found to reproduce what I actually hear when driving the car is the very back of the center console behind my elbow.

Mazda must have knew this because they put a perfect hole back there in the NB's and filled it with a locking mechanism for the lid. I took that out and with a few bucks worth of hardware from Lowes mounted a mini ball head right there to hold my Zoom H2 recorder but any digital recorder with a 1/4-20 mounting hole will work perfectly.


The only thing to consider about a separate recording device is that you will need to sync the audio up in iMovie which is very simple to do but is an extra step, to me well worth it since you get MUCH better audio with a separate device rather than letting a GoPro crush the quality and dealing with a mic wire limiting where you can place the camera.

Even though that placement is relatively out of the wind, it still gets enough breeze even at autocross 70 and 80 mph speeds to pick up a bunch of wind noise but a Wind Cutter or "dead cat" as they're sometimes called will take care of that with no problem...

The WindCutter - Microphone Wind Noise Solutions

If you don't want the extra step of syncing the audio, Wind Cutter sells a very decent lav mic with a nice long 6 foot cord which will plug right into your GoPro and has a nice little clip on it that you can clip to the front edge of the parcel shelf carpet...

Lavalier/Lapel Microphone & WindCutter Set (StormChaser Version)

Here's one of the many videos from my channel with audio from the Zoom H2 in the location I'm describing above...


TheCowGod 09-11-2014 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Ciotti (Post 1166061)
I've tried out a TON of mic positions over the years (engine bay, passenger footwell, passenger seat base, windshield, rear deck, back edge of the trunk, rear bumper, etc...) and the absolute best spot I've found to reproduce what I actually hear when driving the car is the very back of the center console behind my elbow.

Nice, thanks for the tip. I'll start there with my DR-40.


Originally Posted by Ciotti (Post 1166061)
The only thing to consider about a separate recording device is that you will need to sync the audio up in iMovie which is very simple to do but is an extra step, to me well worth it since you get MUCH better audio with a separate device rather than letting a GoPro crush the quality and dealing with a mic wire limiting where you can place the camera.

Yep, well worth the effort. I'll just need to remember to clap my hands once while I'm in the staging line to help make that easier :)


Originally Posted by Ciotti (Post 1166061)
Here's one of the many videos from my channel with audio from the Zoom H2 in the location I'm describing above...

Yep, great sound, great camera angles, engaging video. Thanks, I think my next videos will turn out a lot better.


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