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Grey Vw 07-01-2015 12:11 AM

Turbo Miata lit on fire while driving
 
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Was doing a pull and a cloud comes from the engine bay. I quickly pull over and it is on fire. I have a blanket and extinguisher in the trunk. The blanket didn't put it out so had to use the extinguisher.

The eBay fitting adapter from the oil feed line to turbo snapped in half and sprayed oil all over the manifold.


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Braineack 07-01-2015 07:33 AM

the exhaust leak at the turbo probably didnt help either.

18psi 07-01-2015 08:59 AM

Wow that's a bummer. Glad it didn't burn to the ground

m2cupcar 07-01-2015 09:06 AM

Why I carry an extinguisher in all my cars.

Grey Vw 07-01-2015 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1245421)
the exhaust leak at the turbo probably didnt help either.

Exhaust leak?


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1245433)
Wow that's a bummer. Glad it didn't burn to the ground

Nothing was permanently damaged. Just a new fitting and it should be good to go.


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 1245437)
Why I carry an extinguisher in all my cars.

Genius

shuiend 07-01-2015 10:08 AM

This is also why I don't use any cheap AN fittings on my cars. Saving a few bucks to me is not worth the risk of having my car catch on fire.

Grey Vw 07-01-2015 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1245453)
This is also why I don't use any cheap AN fittings on my cars. Saving a few bucks to me is not worth the risk of having my car catch on fire.

Learned it the hard way. Vibrant fitting ordered.

Joe Perez 07-01-2015 10:32 AM

Weirdly, I don't usually consider Holly / Earl's to be a source of "cheap" AN hardware- I've used a lot of their stuff in the past and never really had any quality issues.

Was this one of the cast & machined aluminum 90° AN-to-pipe-thread adapters? Any pictures of the failed part?

hornetball 07-01-2015 11:15 AM

With real AN fittings (see aircraftspruce.com), you always get your choice of steel or aluminum. On aircraft engines (the ones with gigantic pistons that cause vibrations akin to Hustler's bike seat), steel is used for anything carrying combustibles that is screwed into the engine itself. This doesn't seem to be the rule with automotive engines, but it's something to consider and definitely offers more fatigue resistance to vibrations.

Grey Vw 07-01-2015 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1245456)
Weirdly, I don't usually consider Holly / Earl's to be a source of "cheap" AN hardware- I've used a lot of their stuff in the past and never really had any quality issues.

Was this one of the cast & machined aluminum 90° AN-to-pipe-thread adapters? Any pictures of the failed part?

Oops, sorry. Edited it. Earls was used on my oil feed on the engine block. It was indeed a chinese fitting. Pics later today.


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1245483)
With real AN fittings (see aircraftspruce.com), you always get your choice of steel or aluminum. On aircraft engines (the ones with gigantic pistons that cause vibrations akin to Hustler's bike seat), steel is used for anything carrying combustibles that is screwed into the engine itself. This doesn't seem to be the rule with automotive engines, but it's something to consider and definitely offers more fatigue resistance to vibrations.

Makes sense. Hustler :rofl:

DNMakinson 07-01-2015 11:41 AM

<p>+1 for steel fittings for oil lines.</p><p>I plan to go steel on the water fittings at the turbo as well.</p>

Braineack 07-01-2015 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Grey Vw (Post 1245449)
Exhaust leak?

the black soot on your hood suggests a prolonged exhaust leak.

patsmx5 07-01-2015 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1245483)
With real AN fittings (see aircraftspruce.com), you always get your choice of steel or aluminum. On aircraft engines (the ones with gigantic pistons that cause vibrations akin to Hustler's bike seat), steel is used for anything carrying combustibles that is screwed into the engine itself. This doesn't seem to be the rule with automotive engines, but it's something to consider and definitely offers more fatigue resistance to vibrations.

I bought Cheap Summit fittings on my build.

I'll never do it again. Next time I'll check out your link. I agree 100% for steel fittings, I now hate aluminum AN fittings big time....

rleete 07-01-2015 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1245512)
the black soot on your hood suggests a prolonged exhaust leak.

I wondered why he thought that until I went back and looked. Once I noticed it, it was like finding the hidden object.

Very good observation, Braineak.

hornetball 07-01-2015 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1245517)
I now hate aluminum AN fittings big time....

Aluminum is lightweight and perfectly fine for the other end of a typical flexible line though (the end mounted to a component on a chassis or firewall for instance). Everything has its place.

Joe Perez 07-01-2015 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1245512)
the black soot on your hood suggests a prolonged exhaust leak.

Or an engine fire resulting from large amounts of oil spraying onto the exhaust manifold under pressure.

Grey Vw 07-01-2015 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1245512)
the black soot on your hood suggests a prolonged exhaust leak.

You are right, but that black soot was already there. Before the turbo I had a severely cracked stock manifold. ^that too

There was no signs or smell of exhaust under the hood in the days prior.

Faeflora 02-02-2016 08:07 PM

I dunno this seems like normal operation to me


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